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Comments on MetaFilter post Death becomes her.Sun, 06 Mar 2011 06:43:12 -0800Sun, 06 Mar 2011 06:43:12 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60Death becomes her.
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<a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1362957/700-year-old-mummy-road-workers-east-China-excellent-condition.html?ito=feeds-newsxml">"When [700] hundred years old *you* reach, look as good *you* will not, hmm? "</a> Face of incredibly preserved 700-year-old mummy found by chance by Chinese road workers.post:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231Sun, 06 Mar 2011 06:30:55 -0800FizzmummymummificationoldageolddiscoveryBy: condour75
http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3558524
Since when is the Daily Mail our go-to site for candids of mummified royalty? <small>Oh, right.</small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231-3558524Sun, 06 Mar 2011 06:43:12 -0800condour75By: tomswift
http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3558525
<em>"Death becomes her."</em>
You might want to be aware, Fizz, that there's never been a woman that has responded to that statement in a positive manner.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231-3558525Sun, 06 Mar 2011 06:43:29 -0800tomswiftBy: Fizz
http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3558527
<em>You might want to be aware, Fizz, that there's never been a woman that has responded to that statement in a positive manner.</em>
She's dead though, what is she going to...haunt me?!comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231-3558527Sun, 06 Mar 2011 06:45:13 -0800FizzBy: The Whelk
http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3558539
No but Goldie Hawn will smash your head in with a shovel.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231-3558539Sun, 06 Mar 2011 06:57:25 -0800The WhelkBy: flapjax at midnite
http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3558542
Them's some stylin' booties she's wearing.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231-3558542Sun, 06 Mar 2011 07:00:03 -0800flapjax at midniteBy: tomswift
http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3558544
Read my comment more carefully, Fizz, slowly, think about it, keep your fingers off the keyboard.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231-3558544Sun, 06 Mar 2011 07:02:22 -0800tomswiftBy: Fizz
http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3558547
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http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3558550
Daily Failcomment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231-3558550Sun, 06 Mar 2011 07:08:16 -0800The ThnikkamanBy: elizardbits
http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3558552
<i>Them's some stylin' booties she's wearing.</i>
I especially like how the soles appear to be made of 700-year-old Dr Scholl's odor eaters.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231-3558552Sun, 06 Mar 2011 07:12:03 -0800elizardbitsBy: slater
http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3558553
<i><b>And</b> the coffin was opened earlier this week, on March 1, much to the excitement of the local city - <b>and</b> further afield. <b>And</b> the right hand of the 700-year-old mummy showed her preserved skin, <b>and</b> a ring. </i>
Daily Mail uses Markov Chains to generate articles?comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231-3558553Sun, 06 Mar 2011 07:14:12 -0800slaterBy: Countess Elena
http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3558575
Thanks for this. She reminds me of the Lady of Dai, a plump, well-preserved Chinese noblewoman of approximately 145 BC, who is not looking at her best* on display <a href="http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-08/25/content_368631.htm">here</a> but who was amazingly lifelike on her discovery. It was even possible to analyze her <a href="http://www.asianart.com/articles/ladydai/index.html">last meal</a> -- she enjoyed melons.
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* And by that I mean "nightmare-inducing and against God."comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231-3558575Sun, 06 Mar 2011 07:52:54 -0800Countess ElenaBy: Postroad
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there is now an exhibition of bodies, cast from the "remains" at Pompeii site in Italy, in NYCity.
We seem endlessly fascinated by human remains, bodies. Here is a very nice article dealing with the subject (I will be posting this tomorrow at my site)...
<a href="http://www.guernicamag.com/features/2406/manseau_3_1_11/"><b>Plasticize Me</b></a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231-3558576Sun, 06 Mar 2011 07:53:48 -0800PostroadBy: Fizz
http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3558585
<em>We seem endlessly fascinated by human remains, bodies.</em>
Is it the bodies or the glimpse into a long ago culture and society that fascinates us. I always struggle with finds and exhibits like this because while on the one hand I value the history, knowledge, and insight we gain into another culture and time...on the other we're essentially grave-robbing and disturbing someone else's tradition and culture of burial/mourning.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231-3558585Sun, 06 Mar 2011 08:10:11 -0800FizzBy: mendel
http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3558588
If she was so high-ranking, why did they bury her beside a road? EH?comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231-3558588Sun, 06 Mar 2011 08:18:32 -0800mendelBy: Postroad
http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3558601
It is not only old old budies and remains which fascinate us but rather bodies in general, as in this exhibit that has been attracting many many folks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm2xyiqVpkgcomment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231-3558601Sun, 06 Mar 2011 08:37:37 -0800PostroadBy: scalefree
http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3558604
<i>She's aged well: Face of incredibly preserved 700-year-old mummy found by chance by Chinese road workers </i>
Awful wording on the headline. Did they find her body or just her face?comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231-3558604Sun, 06 Mar 2011 08:39:32 -0800scalefreeBy: cjorgensen
http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3558611
In 700 years is someone going to be excited to dig my ass up?
I think I'll have "put me back" tattooed to my forehead when I die. It'll be in my will.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231-3558611Sun, 06 Mar 2011 08:47:39 -0800cjorgensenBy: thirteenkiller
http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3558633
<em><a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/a-meeting-of-civilisations-the-mystery-of-chinas-celtic-mummies-413638.html">In the same room</a> are the much more recent Han mummies - equally interesting, but rendering the display confusing, as it groups all the mummies closely together. Which makes sound political sense.</em>
Chinese mummies can have political implications.
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/02/AR2011030206371.html">A display of much older mummies from Western China</a> was recently the subject of controversy when, the day before the exhibit was meant to open at Penn, China suddenly withdrew its consent for the display. Chinese officials cited some official regulations (<a href="http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/opinion/when-millennia-old-mummies-threaten-national-identity-52463.html">that they had apparently ignored in earlier planning</a>), but many speculated that it was due to sensitivity over the mummies' Western features and the possibility the mummies' circumstances might lend support to the idea that Xinjiang isn't necessarily a historically Chinese region. After negotiation the Chinese government finally consented to a more temporally limited display of the mummies and associated artifacts.
Anyone in the Philly area should totally go see the mummies (before March 15th, when the exhibit shuts down), if they're into that sorta thing!
Anyway, I don't know what this means for the lady in the FPP - maybe nothing - but it's the context with which I view the post.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231-3558633Sun, 06 Mar 2011 09:10:15 -0800thirteenkillerBy: Wanderlust88
http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3558639
Brown liquid?comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231-3558639Sun, 06 Mar 2011 09:13:27 -0800Wanderlust88By: the quidnunc kid
http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3558679
Just a few days after revealing that the average living person is a 28 year old Chinese man, famed website MetaFilter has announced that the typical dead person is a 700 year old Chinese woman.
"We gotta get these two together," said MetaFilter founder Matt Howie, a 56 year old Chinese web developer. "Then, I will raise the product of their unholy union as my own son."
Several other "typical" things have also been revealed to be Chinese by MeFi, including Lady Gaga's sexuality and the future geopolitical environment. But some complain that Gaga does not, in fact, represent the real China. A website called Gays Against Ghanzhou has been established to protest against this very comment.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231-3558679Sun, 06 Mar 2011 10:00:05 -0800the quidnunc kidBy: evening
http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3558729
It is amazing how well preserved the textiles are. Those shoes look brand new. Impressive.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231-3558729Sun, 06 Mar 2011 10:51:43 -0800eveningBy: jaduncan
http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3558769
Can we get a NSFW claim on the Mail in general? I have to look people in the eye, you know.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231-3558769Sun, 06 Mar 2011 11:31:41 -0800jaduncanBy: supermedusa
http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3558781
for myself, I find this stuff very fascinating but I dont think its about "bodies" so much as a rare and wonderful glimpse into the past. to see such well preserved features, textiles etc., is incredible!comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231-3558781Sun, 06 Mar 2011 11:43:43 -0800supermedusaBy: emeiji
http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3558800
<i>I always struggle with finds and exhibits like this because while on the one hand I value the history, knowledge, and insight we gain into another culture and time...on the other we're essentially grave-robbing and disturbing someone else's tradition and culture of burial/mourning.</i>
If someone ever digs me up, I will haunt their ass for eternity.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231-3558800Sun, 06 Mar 2011 11:59:50 -0800emeijiBy: elizardbits
http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3558908
<i>I will haunt their ass for eternity.</i>
....kind of like a ghostly fart?comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231-3558908Sun, 06 Mar 2011 14:03:34 -0800elizardbitsBy: archagon
http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3558973
As fascinating as this discovery is, I can't help but wonder at what point it's okay to excavate the graves of the dead. Will she be reburied in a fitting manner, or shuttled back and forth between various research laboratories? What effect will removing her from the brown liquid have on her preservation?comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231-3558973Sun, 06 Mar 2011 14:49:46 -0800archagonBy: bwg
http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3559141
Those booties look comfy; I want to get a pair just like them.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231-3559141Sun, 06 Mar 2011 16:58:58 -0800bwgBy: mendel
http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3559225
<i>I can't help but wonder at what point it's okay to excavate the graves of the dead</i>
Once it's been long enough that no-one knows you're there and they've already dug up everything around you for a road: that point.
Besides there's a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossuary">long history</a> of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catacombs_of_Paris">digging up the dead</a> when you need the space for something else. What do they care? They're dead.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231-3559225Sun, 06 Mar 2011 17:52:30 -0800mendelBy: porpoise
http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3559286
At 1.5m, she's <i>just</i> shy of 5' - seems rather tall for a woman from that era. Good (better) and/or genetics? Or my misconception about average heights 700 years ago? <small>(googling for average women's heights in medieval europe suggests that Western people in general weren't much shorter than they are now...)</small>
I, too, am intrigued by what the "brown liquid" consists of. Presumably something promoting an anoxic environment but with a neutral pH, to preserve the silk/cotton?
<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3559141">bwg</a> - google fails me, but I swear I've seen shoes in that style at (Vancouver's) Chinatown. iirc, they looked kinda cheap (costume clothing rather than everyday wear functional clothing), though.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231-3559286Sun, 06 Mar 2011 18:48:23 -0800porpoiseBy: porpoise
http://www.metafilter.com/101231/Death-becomes-her#3559288
*Good (better) <i>nutrition</i>...comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.101231-3559288Sun, 06 Mar 2011 18:51:55 -0800porpoise
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