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Louis C.K. has what most artists dream of: <a href="http://nymag.com/print/?/arts/tv/upfronts/2011/louis-ck-2011-5/">total creative control over his show</a>.post:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567Mon, 16 May 2011 14:21:29 -0800reenumlouiscktvtelevisionfxcomedysitcomartcreativecreativitycomicstanduplongformBy: dirtylittlecity
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699398
I'm very excited to see what he comes up with this next season. However, and this is said as someone who is a fan, hopefully what he comes up with is some new jokes, because season one of Louis had way too many jokes from Life with Louis. Different styles I know, but still.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699398Mon, 16 May 2011 14:25:16 -0800dirtylittlecityBy: item
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699412
Wowza, that's one awful photograph of the man.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699412Mon, 16 May 2011 14:28:26 -0800itemBy: mrgrimm
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699421
<i>(They need to contact her people for permission to use her name, Louis tells me during a break.)</i>
So not <em>complete</em> total creative control ... I doubt FX will let him do anything for which they will be liable... I also doubt he gets to show his cock.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699421Mon, 16 May 2011 14:32:39 -0800mrgrimmBy: KokuRyu
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699423
<i>Wowza, that's one awful photograph of the man.</i>
It's all part of the man's appeal.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699423Mon, 16 May 2011 14:32:41 -0800KokuRyuBy: boubelium
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699442
Between Archer, Justified, and Louie FX is on a roll these days. If only other networks would learn that giving more creative control can result in some really ogreat programs with original voices. Oh, and they also push the boundaries of language on tv.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699442Mon, 16 May 2011 14:39:02 -0800boubeliumBy: nathancaswell
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699444
Don't forget It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia...comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699444Mon, 16 May 2011 14:39:41 -0800nathancaswellBy: roll truck roll
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699469
Yeah, between Louie and It's Always Sunny, FX is definitely making a name for itself as the network that doesn't get in the way of good TV.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699469Mon, 16 May 2011 14:47:20 -0800roll truck rollBy: quin
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699473
Yeah, FX is proving that TV can be better than just good for a while now. It's weird; having a network treat me like an adult by providing me with entertainment that actually has some nuance and depth or humor that doesn't have to be spelled out.
And by "weird: I mean "wonderful".
Giving C.K. creative control makes a lot of sense, he knows what he wants to say, and they realizes that sometimes that might be further than the network is comfortable going, putting it on him lets him rise or fall based on his own decisions.
I look forward to a future where more decisions like this are more common.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699473Mon, 16 May 2011 14:48:23 -0800quinBy: quin
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699476
<small><s>more decisions like this are more...</s></small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699476Mon, 16 May 2011 14:49:04 -0800quinBy: quin
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699479
<small><small>Uh, it just keeps getting worse:
<s>more</s> decisions like this are more...</small></small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699479Mon, 16 May 2011 14:50:01 -0800quinBy: incomple
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699484
<blockquote>Finally, Louis picks up a longer card, with sentences printed in black marker. "Human kindness has no reward," he reads. "You should give to others in every way you see. You should expect absolutely nothing from anyone. It should be your goal to love every human you encounter. All human suffering that you're aware of and continues without your effort to stop it becomes your crime. Humans are always evolving. If you do one thing that if done by every human would destroy the world, that makes you Hitler.'"</blockquote>
Damn.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699484Mon, 16 May 2011 14:51:30 -0800incompleBy: jcruelty
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699515
I like Louis C.K. a lot but his bitterness is getting a little old. Got to a point where I just couldn't relate any more. Like his most recent standup movie I was just hoping it wouldn't be all "I suck, women suck, blah blah" but it was :( I think a lot of why he's so funny is that his stuff about kids etc was mean yet relatable. But it's stretched to the point where I'm not really feeling it any more.
Don't get me wrong I think he's still funnier than 90% of comics out there & loved the absurd bits of his last movie. But I hope he tones down the over-the-top bitterness going forward cos enough alreadycomment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699515Mon, 16 May 2011 14:59:54 -0800jcrueltyBy: Bookhouse
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699541
<em>But the network's greatest success has been with comedies.</em>
Odd to put <em>The League</em> above <em>The Shield</em>, <em>Rescue Me</em> and <em>Sons of Anarchy</em>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699541Mon, 16 May 2011 15:11:54 -0800BookhouseBy: Blazecock Pileon
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699570
<em>Yeah, FX is proving that TV can be better than just good for a while now. It's weird; having a network treat me like an adult by providing me with entertainment that actually has some nuance and depth or humor that doesn't have to be spelled out. </em>
The <em>Bully</em> episode was oddly surprising and nerve-wracking for a comedy show. So many different ways that could have played out.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699570Mon, 16 May 2011 15:24:05 -0800Blazecock PileonBy: the young rope-rider
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699572
God, I miss The Shield so much.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699572Mon, 16 May 2011 15:25:25 -0800the young rope-riderBy: Afroblanco
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699576
I like Louis CK, but Lucky Louie was really not a good show, and its made me hesitant to watch any of his other TV projects. I mean, I get dark humor, and I'm cool with that, but Lucky Louie was just ... depressing ... and not very funny.
In general, though, I tend to think Louis CK as more "hey, he's got a point" and less "laugh-out-loud funny".comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699576Mon, 16 May 2011 15:29:10 -0800AfroblancoBy: Bookhouse
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699616
By the way, the recent special <em>Talking Funny</em> on HBO, featuring nothing but an hour of Louis CK, Chris Rock, Jerry Seinfeld and Ricky Gervais talking about the art and craft of comedy, is one of the more fascinating things I've seen recently. No moderator, no clips, just a serious (and funny) discussion between four intelligent men who sit at the top of their particular game. Fantastic.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699616Mon, 16 May 2011 15:47:18 -0800BookhouseBy: tumid dahlia
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699618
I have an enormous man-crush on Louis C.K. and we've been rewatching <i>Lucky Louie</i> and <i>Louie</i> recently. Some of the <i>Louie</i> episodes, like the bully and crucifixion ones, are truly great television. But I also get the sense that he's stretching himself a little thin as a comedian, as the self-loathing material, while generally hilarious, is a little stale and can only go so far. It would be interesting to see him try his hand at some true drama, maybe. Or maybe a book? Also I wish he would disassociate himself from Ricky Gervais, not as buddies of course, just in their work, because I used to adore Gervais but he is really starting to grate quite badly. I admit he was okay as <i>Louie</i>'s obnoxious GP though.
<i>Archer</i> is enormous fun. I get that a whole lot of people hate it and I get <i>why</i> they hate it and even while I'm watching it I see all the things they hate but it really has its hooks in me and I'm not letting it go. Also I think <i>30 Rock</i> ought to be put to bed now. Good run, guys, but you're starting to push it. 'Course, if I was making a million bucks a minute I guess I'd push it as long as possible too.
As for <i>Justified</i>, I only got through a couple of episodes but maybe I should give it another whirl.. I think my problem is I was going into it hoping for <i>Seth Bullock in the 21st Century</i>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699618Mon, 16 May 2011 15:47:27 -0800tumid dahliaBy: fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699624
I am always blown away by the creativity of Louis CK. Some folks would use the same hour of standing-up comedy material for a career—he blows it all away after a year and starts over.
His interview with Maron is now a premium episode of WTF (<a href="http://www.wtfpod.com/podcast/episodes/episode_111_-_louis_ck_part_1">part 1</a> | <a href="http://www.wtfpod.com/podcast/episodes/episode_112_-_louis_ck_part_2">part 2</a>) but is amazing listening.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699624Mon, 16 May 2011 15:49:41 -0800fifteen schnitzengruben is my limitBy: flaterik
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699648
<i>"I get that a whole lot of people hate it and I get why they hate it and even while I'm watching it I see all the things they hate"</i>
wait, what? no. these people do not deserve comedy.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699648Mon, 16 May 2011 16:02:34 -0800flaterikBy: Mick
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699649
I'm still a little bitter FX canceled Terriers, it was a great show.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699649Mon, 16 May 2011 16:03:20 -0800MickBy: Ideefixe
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699689
He has complete creative control because of the tiny amount of money involved. He shoots on Red (and I doubt that he's paying himself IATSE scale) and cuts on a Macbook. Here's another <a href="http://laist.com/2011/03/08/tv_junkie_interview_louis_ck.php">interview</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699689Mon, 16 May 2011 16:24:22 -0800IdeefixeBy: saul wright
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699694
Just wanted to chime in that, I couldn't stand <em>Lucky Louie</em> but I think <em>Louie</em> is one of the greatest shows on tv right now. So definitely give it a chance.
Also, he edits the damn show himself! He's like Chaplin.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699694Mon, 16 May 2011 16:28:10 -0800saul wrightBy: Danf
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Art is born of restraint and dies of freedom.
-this has been attributed to both Flaubert and Gidecomment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699700Mon, 16 May 2011 16:30:12 -0800DanfBy: saul wright
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699712
<em>As for Justified, I only got through a couple of episodes but maybe I should give it another whirl.. I think my problem is I was going into it hoping for Seth Bullock in the 21st Century.</em>
Yeah, it really grew on me. It was a bit too procedural for my taste to begin with but they've mostly abandoned that for overarching plots. Amazing acting with more than a couple Deadwood alums.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699712Mon, 16 May 2011 16:37:07 -0800saul wrightBy: machaus
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699730
<i>I like Louis C.K. a lot but his bitterness is getting a little old.</i>
Did you see the 'Bully' episode? There's nothing bitter in it. Dark, real yes. But not bitter. Short of the 'Fly' episode from Breaking Bad, I can't remember a better show from last season.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699730Mon, 16 May 2011 16:40:49 -0800machausBy: TMezz
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699769
hands down the best evidence that comedy is the highest art form - comedy in this sense - based on real truths people are usually afraid to confront. the bully episode referenced above is a prime example - not really funny - but raw and honest and daring - comedy in the way that makes you uncomfortable, and then releases you into the realm of greater knowledge about the human condition or straight up hilarity. my favorite show on television. and I don't miss Terriers.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699769Mon, 16 May 2011 17:00:45 -0800TMezzBy: Yakuman
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699773
Louis C.K. has what most artists get: a small audience.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699773Mon, 16 May 2011 17:02:05 -0800YakumanBy: Greg Nog
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699814
The bully episode was absolutely fascinating in its willingness to avoid pat answers or fake solutions, but to be perfectly honest, I think the most splendidly realistic episode of the season was the smoking-weed-with-the-neighbor one; it captures the total confusion of being-unaccustomed-to-weed-and-then-going-on-a-bender more faithfully than any other fictional work I've ever seen.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699814Mon, 16 May 2011 17:26:11 -0800Greg NogBy: Grimgrin
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699822
Danf: I think trying to create your own TV series for $250,000, by yourself, is a pretty massive restraint. Put it this way, Kate Gosselin gets $250,000 per episode to appear on John and Kate Plus 8.
One of the things I really like about Loius CK is he's very aware of privilege. He has one great bit about parents who hit their kids, and after spending 5 minutes excoriating parents who do, says 'By the way, the only reason I can say this is because I don't have a full time job. If you have to work all day I totally get why you might hit your kids'. It's kind of amazing to see a comedian who's so aware of people's circumstances.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699822Mon, 16 May 2011 17:30:14 -0800GrimgrinBy: pmurray63
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699868
I watched most if not all of the first season of <em>Louie</em>, mainly because of his reputation and because I originally couldn't decide how I felt about the show. Eventually I decided it wasn't for me, and I stopped recording it. (Not a surprise, I suppose, since I've never seen anything on FX that interests me.)
Not trying to tick people off. I mention this only to provide a different viewpoint.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699868Mon, 16 May 2011 17:50:08 -0800pmurray63By: Theodore Sign
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699909
Louis is my favorite comic and probably the best there is, but like all artists he has his self indulgences. Mostly I think he wallows in excruciating awkwardness a bit too much in <em>Louie</em>, though there is a lot more to redeem the show. <em>Lucky Louie</em>, however, was pretty much wall-to-wall cringing degradation and, thus, kinda unwatchable.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699909Mon, 16 May 2011 18:15:19 -0800Theodore SignBy: box
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3699955
The weed episode of <i>Louie</i> is one of the go-to things that I show to my friends who say they don't like tv.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3699955Mon, 16 May 2011 18:51:16 -0800boxBy: escabeche
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3700132
<em>The Bully episode was oddly surprising and nerve-wracking for a comedy show. So many different ways that could have played out.</em>
And CK chose the cheapest, easiest one. That's the danger of giving one guy complete creative control; no matter how talented you are, sometimes you need someone over your shoulder.
It's very much worth watching, though, largely because of the kid who played the bully. He stole the show from the regular cast.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3700132Mon, 16 May 2011 20:24:07 -0800escabecheBy: Blazecock Pileon
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3700463
<em>And CK chose the cheapest, easiest one.</em>
I don't know, it didn't seem like easy-watching. Easy to make, maybe.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3700463Mon, 16 May 2011 23:27:11 -0800Blazecock PileonBy: AzzaMcKazza
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3700608
June 23 can't come soon enough! Love me some Louie.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3700608Tue, 17 May 2011 02:21:57 -0800AzzaMcKazzaBy: chunking express
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3700855
The whole show is really bizarre. To call it a comedy seems to stretch the definition of the genre. I'm also really curious to see what they do next season.
FX is pretty awesome.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3700855Tue, 17 May 2011 06:57:23 -0800chunking expressBy: getawaysticks
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3700868
<em>"...because season one of Louis had way too many jokes from Life with Louis."</em>
Where did you get to see <strong>Life with Louis</strong>? As a Louis freak, I try to see as much of his work as I can.
This was a great article. I really love him and his work.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3700868Tue, 17 May 2011 07:04:36 -0800getawaysticksBy: mrgrimm
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3701175
<i>The weed episode of Louie is one of the go-to things that I show to my friends who say they don't like tv.</i>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D-PFdCup2E">ha</a>, I like Josh Hamilton. "unless you're too busy wearing those shorts." ^_^ (i cracked up when he threw the water bottle out the window - i <em>know</em> that guy)comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3701175Tue, 17 May 2011 09:30:03 -0800mrgrimmBy: smackfu
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3703172
<i>hands down the best evidence that comedy is the highest art form</i>
OTOH, if there are no jokes and no one laughs and it is just grim, at what point does it stop being a comedy?comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3703172Wed, 18 May 2011 05:59:02 -0800smackfuBy: mrgrimm
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3703622
<i>OTOH, if there are no jokes and no one laughs and it is just grim, at what point does it stop being a comedy?</i>
when it gets to <a href="http://www.amctv.com/shows/breaking-bad">AMC</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3703622Wed, 18 May 2011 10:20:29 -0800mrgrimmBy: OrangeDrink
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3706604
Agreeing with Afroblanco - I hated Lucky Louie, despite being a big fan of Louie CK. I think it had something to do with the laugh track? But Louie, that's an awesome show.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3706604Thu, 19 May 2011 13:09:37 -0800OrangeDrinkBy: angrycat
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3707346
My favorite moment from last season was when he was trying to have dream sex with a news anchor and he's all, can I fuck you and she pulls out a knife and starts yelling, "Daddy, Daddy!" Which becomes his daughters' voices as he wakes up. So messed up.
Why do people hate Archer? Family Guy is just as crude (but not nearly as good), right?comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3707346Thu, 19 May 2011 18:23:26 -0800angrycatBy: smackfu
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3708151
I don't understand why anyone would hate Archer. It's a much more refined version of Frisky Dingo.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3708151Fri, 20 May 2011 07:58:29 -0800smackfuBy: joseph conrad is fully awesome
http://www.metafilter.com/103567/OneMan-Show#3708803
<i>ha yt , I like Josh Hamilton. "unless you're too busy wearing those shorts." ^_^ (i cracked up when he threw the water bottle out the window - i know that guy)</i>
I know that guy too, and the assumption is he's such an asshole it's funny, but it's not - it's just spending time with an asshole. Which is why I tried with Louie CK for a few episodes and gave up; the show mistakes aholery for funny.
In every comedian there's a mixture of funny:a-hole. You can't have too much of the latter without ruining the former. The ratio is too much aholery in the writing and the characters, not enough of the funny.
However, there was one scene that stood out as incredibly funny: Louie's on a date and they both need to use the bathroom at a restaurant. While his date is in the bathroom, someone comes banging on the door and complains that they've got to take a dump. His date comes out and is very indignant, mistaking the rude customer for Louie. Extremely funny, mostly for his date's reaction.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103567-3708803Fri, 20 May 2011 11:43:54 -0800joseph conrad is fully awesome
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