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A bridge builder, a student of how societies hold together; an advocate of dialogue. Standing against polarized and simplistic styles of thought. Canadian philosopher Charles Taylor is Canada's best known and most widely read contemporary thinker. In books like Sources of the Self and A Secular Age, he has attempted to define the unique character of the modern age. He maps the fault-lines in our modern identity, and points to both the pitfalls and the promise of our condition. Learn about his life, history, upbringing, and... ideas.
Now available, CBC <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/episodes/2011/04/11/the-malaise-of-modernity-part-1---5/">IDEAS in five one-hour parts: the malaise of modernity</a> (this special program has the same title as the 1991 Massey Lecture of the same name, but is not the same [MP3's, get them now, they will go away, and then you can only stream them]).
<a href="http://podcast.cbc.ca/mp3/podcasts/malaise_20110411_79775.mp3">One</a>, <a href="http://podcast.cbc.ca/mp3/podcasts/malaise_20110412_19842.mp3">Two</a>, <a href="http://podcast.cbc.ca/mp3/podcasts/malaise_20110413_44521.mp3">Three</a>, <a href="http://podcast.cbc.ca/mp3/podcasts/malaise_20110414_27519.mp3">Four</a>, <a href="http://podcast.cbc.ca/mp3/podcasts/malaise_20110415_67713.mp3">Five</a>. <br /><br /><em>Taylor (as well as <a title="Alasdair MacIntyre" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alasdair_MacIntyre">Alasdair MacIntyre</a>, <a title="Michael Walzer" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Walzer">Michael Walzer</a>, <a title="Michael Sandel" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Sandel">Michael Sandel</a>, and <a title="Gad Barzilai" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gad_Barzilai">Gad Barzilai</a>) is associated with a <a title="Communitarian" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communitarian">communitarian</a> critique of liberal theory's understanding of the "self." Communitarians emphasize the importance of social institutions in the development of individual meaning and identity.
In his 1991 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massey_Lecture">Massey Lecture</a>, "<a href="http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/massey-archives/1991/11/11/massey-lectures-1991-the-malaise-of-modernity/">The Malaise of Modernity</a>," Taylor argued that political theorists, from <a title="John Locke" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Locke">John Locke</a> and <a title="Thomas Hobbes" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Hobbes">Thomas Hobbes</a> to <a title="John Rawls" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rawls">John Rawls</a> and <a title="Ronald Dworkin" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Dworkin">Ronald Dworkin</a>, have neglected the way in which individuals arise within the context supplied by societies. A more realistic understanding of the "self" recognizes the social background against which life choices gain importance and meaning.</em>
With modern modes and avenues of self-creation multiplying -- fracturing even -- zones of syntheses arise, as this research (<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/103270/Spiritual-Atheists-Humanist-Chaplains-and-FFRF-Weddings">linked recently on the Blue</a>) suggests a rethinking of the thesis of Modernity as a "reductive" force (ie. Slowly chipping away at, decreasing, or deprecating the forces of Religion), rather, the study brings to light a "diversifying, dialogical spirituality".
<blockquote><em>But an alternative framework is that to see science as only undermining faith is to adopt a simplistic view of secularization and of science and scientists. Scientists are potentially not simply carriers of secularization but explorers of what Charles Taylor characterizes as a frontier of thought that provides an alternative to a moral order centered on God and traditional religion (<a href="http://socrel.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2011/02/16/socrel.srr003.full#ref-53">Taylor 2007</a>). Scientists may be at the vanguard of what Taylor called the "nova" effect, the idea that after non-belief (a shift from a society where belief in God is taken for granted to one where belief in God is an option among many), there is a proliferation of various kinds of spirituality. Yet this possibility has not been empirically explored, and the nature of what might be a particular spiritual sense among scientists has never been examined. Rather, scientists have been judged mainly according to the a priori categories of religiosity found among the general population. Or to put it in Taylor's framework, they have been understood as those people responsible for removing the "blinders of faith" rather than as those who might provide alternative or new sources of meaning (<a href="http://socrel.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2011/02/16/socrel.srr003.full#ref-52">Taylor 1989</a>).
In the broadest way then, these findings have implications for understanding modernity and secularism, signaling that both may be more complex (and not just among scientists) than many current conceptions would hold.</em> -<a href="http://socrel.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2011/02/16/socrel.srr003.full">Scientists and Spirituality</a>.</blockquote>post:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103739Fri, 20 May 2011 23:15:07 -0800infinite intimationIDEASDialogueSocietyDialogicalCultureMonologicalCultureModernityLiberalismInfraculturalDiversityReconciliationCharlesTaylorCanadaQuebecoisNDPMcGillOxfordSourcesOfTheSelfASecularAgeCommunitarianismBoostersKnockersReligionChristianityAtheismBy: painquale
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Thanks. Looks great.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103739-3709740Fri, 20 May 2011 23:17:12 -0800painqualeBy: infinite intimation
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for more Taylor;
<a href="http://vimeo.com/4203047">The Politics of Recognition</a> (this is a really interesting distillation/summary of some of the ideas that he raised in his essay of the same title, which was recently collected with several other essays, and an introduction by Amy Gutman [in this clip Taylor also discusses how he and Gérard Bouchard were appointed to head a one-year 'Commission of Inquiry' into what would constitute "reasonable accommodation" for minority cultures in his home province of Quebec).
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffNV0AQBfgw">Our Collective Identity Crisis: A Reading, Sources of the Self - Charles Taylor</a>
<a href="http://youtu.be/RbWwVv5aQL0">The History of American Secularism</a>
<a href="http://fora.tv/2009/03/05/Charles_Taylor_The_Future_of_the_Secular">The Future of the Secular</a>
<a href="http://youtu.be/DKVnLwsl5JI">Religion in the Public Sphere</a>
<a href="http://vimeo.com/7803207">Can Human Action Be Explained?</a>
<a href="http://fora.tv/2007/05/04/Keynote_Lecture_with_Charles_Taylor">Keynote Lecture with Charles Taylor</a>
<a href="http://www.templetonprize.org/tpctaylor.html">Taylor won the templeton prize in 2007</a>:
<a href="http://youtu.be/b4Y0KL56GwU">Clip 1: The case for spiritual rediscovery (Templeton Foundation)</a>
<a href="http://youtu.be/_7MojGw6Wa0">Clip 2: Solving ethnic conflicts like Darfur (Templeton Foundation)</a>
<a href="http://youtu.be/FQtEVrg7T6g">Clip 3: The importance of narrative in understanding (Templeton Foundation)</a>
<a href="http://youtu.be/7kvl5fBSCHI">Clip 4: The key to living together (Templeton Foundation)</a>
(If you are a "reader" person, the Wikipedia page of "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Taylor_(philosopher)#External_links">external links</a>" contains some really interesting textual interviews, discussions and essays).comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103739-3709743Fri, 20 May 2011 23:18:27 -0800infinite intimationBy: anotherpanacea
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Nice! Does anyone have any good links on Taylor and the "post-metaphysical Hegelians"?comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103739-3709839Sat, 21 May 2011 03:52:31 -0800anotherpanaceaBy: psyche7
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<a href="http://www.nlc-bnc.ca/obj/s4/f2/dsk2/tape15/PQDD_0001/MQ31213.pdf">Post-Metaphysical Faith in the Philosophy of Charles Taylor by John Haffner</a> (PDF)
and in general:
<a href="http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/story.html?id=9df6bf0a-be90-4cd0-ae59-1efafc1dd9e6">'The gentle giant of philosophy'</a>
<a href="http://metapsychology.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_doc.php?type=book&id=4345">Review - Dialectics of the Self - Philosophy</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.103739-3710268Sat, 21 May 2011 13:36:55 -0800psyche7
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