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Comments on MetaFilter post Get Based! Instrumental cloud rap with Clams CasinoTue, 28 Jun 2011 16:25:58 -0800Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:25:58 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60Get Based! Instrumental cloud rap with Clams Casino
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The name Clams Casino has been floating around for a while, whose <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfrZekogXNQ">production</a> was <a href="http://www.cbrap.com/?p=3391">likened to a castle floating in the clouds</a> by <a href="http://www.basedworld.com/">the BasedGod himself</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lil_B">Lil B</a> [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/103017/French-trombone-accompanying-mad-beats">prev</a>]. But recently, 24 year old Mike Volpe has shot up from relative obscurity to <a href="http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/artist-to-watch-visionary-beatmaker-clams-casino-20110616">being dubbed a "visionary beatmaker" in Rolling Stone</a>. You can hear the start of the north Jersey bedroom producer's ethereal sound in <a href="http://hulkshare.com/ebe6ccqpnw0k">his 2006 remix</a> of <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTGr-hCTRz8">Mobb Deep's "Get Twisted"</a>, which has carried forward into tracks for <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCN4mmOB-6E" title="Squadda Bambino - I'm Official">Squadda Bambino</a>, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF-iv1Z1otw" title="Lil B - What You Doin">Lil B</a>, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR57En2ka6Q" title="Havoc - Always Have a Choice">Havoc (of Mobb Deep)</a>, and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FQmT1RhmOU" title="Soulja Boy - The World Needs Change ">Soulja Boy</a>. Clams Casino has since released <a href="http://www.mediafire.com/?vikc854yfkp32ry">a free mixtape of his instrumental production</a> (<a href="http://soundcloud.com/blalalapuntnl/sets/clams-casino-instrumental/">streaming</a>) to <a href="http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/15292-instrumental-mixtape/">glowing</a> <a href="http://citypaper.com/music/clams-casino-em-instrumental-mixtape-em-1.1134633">reviews</a>. <br /><br />A couple months back, he had some good interviews with <a href="http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2011/03/qa_clams_casino.php">the Village Voice blog</a> and <a href="http://spaceagehustle.com/post/4060703800/a-conversation-with-clams-casino">Space Age Hustle</a>, and Clams made <a href="http://www.factmag.com/2011/06/20/fact-mix-258-clams-casino/">a general hip-hop mix for Fact Magazine</a> (which will go offline in 2 weeks).
Clams Casino also has <a href="http://www.imposemagazine.com/bytes/clams-casinos-ep-is-streaming">an EP out</a> on <a href="http://pitchfork.com/news/38155-new-label-alert-tri-angle/">Tri Angle</a> (er, TRI▼ANGLE), the label by <a href="http://www.20jazzfunkgreats.co.uk/wordpress/">20 Jazz Funk Greats</a> [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/97895/New-Music-for-the-New-Year">prev</a>] blogger <a href="http://swen.antville.org/stories/2041983/">Robin Carolan</a>, home to <a href="http://www.pitchfork.com/features/articles/7806-ghosts-in-the-machine/">witch house or drag artists</a> [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/98657/Drag-Witch-House-Rape-Gaze">prev</a>, <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/103680/A-Damn-Fine-Cup-of-">ish</a>].
So what do you call this sound? <a href="http://spaceagehustle.com/post/1050951350/main-attrakionz-new-world-sah-exclusive-from">Cloud Rap is one title (with a mixtape)</a>, though Clams Casino is generally considered part of <a href="http://pigeonsandplanes.com/2011/01/video-lil-b-explains-based-music.html">Lil B's Based Music world</a>.
Fun fact: Mike Volpe has not had <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clams_casino">Clams Casino</a>, at least when he discussed it in some of his past interviews.post:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.105059Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:05:42 -0800filthy light thiefClamsCasinoHipHopInstrumentalHipHopbeatsproductionmusicBasedBasedGodLilBCloudRapSquaddaBSquaddaBambinoHavocMobbDeepSouljaBoymixtapeDragWitchHouseTriAngleBy: broadway bill
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Good post! I've been playing I'm God for about the last 9 months or so. That beat (and tons of the other Clams stuff) is just incredible.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.105059-3785388Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:25:58 -0800broadway billBy: penduluum
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The beat for Got It Twisted was my ringtone for like 2 years. Most people thought it was just She Blinded Me with Science, so it was like two-for-one.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.105059-3785417Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:49:38 -0800penduluumBy: Panjandrum
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Very nice, reminds somewhat of Kno's work with <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/APOSMUSIC#p/u/11/QDIe5dS8e8Y">Cunninlynguists</a>, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKZ2KM2M4qw&feature=related">solo</a>, and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLHvILrNuSM">for others</a>. In other words: sweet.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.105059-3785426Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:56:37 -0800PanjandrumBy: Trurl
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<small>disappointed this had nothing to do with seafood</small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.105059-3785441Tue, 28 Jun 2011 17:06:17 -0800TrurlBy: briank
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I got food poisoning from some bad clams casino once.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.105059-3785542Tue, 28 Jun 2011 18:12:14 -0800briankBy: GilloD
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I was like "I went to high school with that guy!" and then I realized that there are 40,000 dudes named Mike Volpe from North Jersey.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.105059-3785543Tue, 28 Jun 2011 18:12:39 -0800GilloDBy: filthy light thief
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<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/105059/Get-Based-Instrumental-cloud-rap-with-Clams-Casino#3785441">Trurl</a>: <i>disappointed this had nothing to do with seafood</i>
I was amused that <a href="http://www.pitchfork.com/news/42015-rising-clams-casino/">he had never eaten Clams Casino</a>, and the name just started as a joke, but it stuck.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.105059-3785578Tue, 28 Jun 2011 18:36:55 -0800filthy light thiefBy: ageispolis
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It's a unique sound but I don't get the visionary appropriation... at least yet. It seems he's riding on a wave of internet hype at the moment more than anything. He's got a long way to go before I think he can be considered a 'visionary beatmaker' in the story of hip-hop. 'Motivation' is pretty sweet though.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.105059-3786720Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:35:42 -0800ageispolisBy: klangklangston
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This is a pretty great post, even if it did lead me to getting into an argument in youtube comments. Dude's trying to argue that rap evolved purely from party rapping and that there were no influences like griots, etc. GRRR!comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.105059-3787148Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:31:30 -0800klangklangstonBy: filthy light thief
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<b>ageipolis</b> - I agree that some of the hype is riding past hype, but it seems that that Clams Casino's beatmaking is pushing a bit of hip-hop into a new direction (which happens to sound like the witch house / drag stuff, but with more pronounced beats). But listening to the Cloud Rap mixtape, some tracks sound like <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtuoEtohPv4">Nujabes beats</a> (expescially <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1RxuZyrLsw">G-Side ft. Chris Lee - Money in the Sky</a> with beats by Basmo Beats).
<b>klang</b> - my sympathies. Some times it's best to step away, even if you have the sources to back up your points.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.105059-3787322Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:42:04 -0800filthy light thiefBy: fuq
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Well, I been listening to the instrumentals and they're good, he's got a nice sound but it's not amazing. First (at least the copy I have) is way too hot and the bass sounds terrible. I don't know about witchhouse so maybe that's the "sound" but I'm not a fan. Otherwise I would define "Based" as Dirty South/Crunk with bit crushing and reverb. Of course, it is now necessarily for every band that gets hyped to coin a new genre. Only time will tell if he's got staying power in the music scene.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.105059-3788617Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:22:23 -0800fuqBy: thebspass
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bahhh lil bcomment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.105059-3800866Thu, 07 Jul 2011 05:00:32 -0800thebspass
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