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<a href="http://worldofwonder.net/posts/2011/09/01/simply-breathtaking-roddy-mcdowalls-home-movies/">An unbelievable collection</a> <em>of Roddy McDowall's never-before-seen silent home movies from the summer of 1965 were uploaded onto YouTube yesterday, featuring impossibly young, impossibly gorgeous stars like Natalie Wood, Paul Newman, Robert Redford, Jane Fonda, Hope Lange, and Rock Hudson frolicking on the beach. You simply MUST go to the website and watch them all. The takeaway for me, though, is Sal Mineo slinking out the back door with a guilty-looking blond who may or may not be Bobby Sherman. What were THEY up to? Also mesmerizing: The closeup of Natalie Wood's freckles, Jane Fonda sticking out her tongue, and Paul Newman's hunky son.</em>post:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160Mon, 05 Sep 2011 14:25:33 -0800BoringPostcardsfilmsummer1965homemoviessilentRoddyMcdowallHollywoodKirkDouglasLaurenBacallPaulNewmanLeeRemickBenGazzaraJulieAndrewsJaneFondaRockHudsonHopeLangeRobertRedfordBobbyShermanNatalieWoodBy: merelyglib
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<a href="http://boyculture.typepad.com/boy_culture/2011/09/the-summer-of-65.html">This link has stills</a>, which made it easier for me to identify people.
I love this.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3906931Mon, 05 Sep 2011 14:34:58 -0800merelyglibBy: hermitosis
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Actually you can see a lot of this footage in <a href="http://firstrunfeatures.com/makingtheboys/"><em>Making The Boys</em></a>, a recent documentary about the controversial gay play (and later, movie) <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065488/">The Boys in the Band</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3906934Mon, 05 Sep 2011 14:36:44 -0800hermitosisBy: Alvy Ampersand
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Needs more Natalie Wood freckles. Like, Gawd. *Sigh*comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3906941Mon, 05 Sep 2011 14:45:43 -0800Alvy AmpersandBy: victors
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The camera loved Natalie, and apparently, she loved it right back...comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3906943Mon, 05 Sep 2011 14:50:29 -0800victorsBy: fuzzypantalones
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good god, paul newman was a beautiful man.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3906949Mon, 05 Sep 2011 14:52:12 -0800fuzzypantalonesBy: incessant
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The star angle on this is interesting, but to me the real takeaway is it's 46 years ago and it really doesn't seem all that different from what my friends and I do on a summer weekend at the beach -- everyone's standing around drinking beer, eating hot dogs off paper plates, everyone's wearing Ray Bans, the girls all have floppy hats. A few kids toddle around, looking for mama and dada, someone needs help with the crossword. I mean yeah, no one's texting and some of the guys have briefs instead of trunks, and there's less plastic around, but otherwise? Totally familiar.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3906965Mon, 05 Sep 2011 15:03:39 -0800incessantBy: mediareport
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Wow, following merelyglib's link leads to <a href="http://boyculture.typepad.com/boy_culture/2011/04/the-twinkie-defense-an-interview-with-courtney-burr.html">this Boy Culture post</a>, which about 2/3 down has Mineo's lover Courtney Burr accusing an in-the-closet Roddy McDowell of some pretty horrendous behavior, with Roddy and Rock Hudson trying to block Burr from a role after Mineo's murder. If the accusations are true, McDowell comes across like a classic homophobic closet case.
Great home movies, though.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3906970Mon, 05 Sep 2011 15:07:53 -0800mediareportBy: kittens for breakfast
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I realize these were Hollywood people to whom making movies was, like, their whole thing, but I cannot get over the incredible quality of this stuff, both amazing and amazingly preserved. Does anyone know more about what went into shooting these? I mean, the only thing off the top of my head I have to compare them to is the movie I saw of my parents' wedding, which was a few years after this and still looks like <i>The Blair Witch Project</i> to these movies' <i>2001: A Space Odyssey.</i>comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3906981Mon, 05 Sep 2011 15:18:07 -0800kittens for breakfastBy: Max Udargo
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incessant -
I had a similar feeling. They all seem so relaxed and comfortable and... normal. Except that they're all terribly beautiful. It started to feel like a television ad from the sixties for beer or station wagons or something. Everyday people enjoying the beach and the sun and socializing with friends, except that these everyday people are all good looking, young, thin, and dressed in very nice, very clean clothes. And Julie Andrews holding her baby could have sold me anything.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3906989Mon, 05 Sep 2011 15:26:43 -0800Max UdargoBy: ThatCanadianGirl
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I always thought Hope Lange was really beautiful. She was never as big a star as I would have liked her to be.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3906994Mon, 05 Sep 2011 15:31:40 -0800ThatCanadianGirlBy: hippybear
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Well, if <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=Bobby+sherman&hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en&prmd=ivnso&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=6lFlTs66FufjiALjmpXNCg&ved=0CCwQsAQ&biw=1319&bih=786">Bobby Sherman</a> were a blonde in 1965, that would be news indeed.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907016Mon, 05 Sep 2011 15:50:28 -0800hippybearBy: cmoj
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They look so realistic!comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907018Mon, 05 Sep 2011 15:52:29 -0800cmojBy: dobbs
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Spotted Mike Nichols in there, too.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907025Mon, 05 Sep 2011 16:01:38 -0800dobbsBy: Seekerofsplendor
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Incredible stuff. All so young and vivid and vibrant, not to mention how hot Jane Fonda was. Interesting also for the then up -and- coming stars like George Segal and David McCallum hanging out. I also spotted director Mike Nichols, and some lesser-knowns (then) like Jack Warden and Jack Gilford.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907029Mon, 05 Sep 2011 16:04:17 -0800SeekerofsplendorBy: mikelieman
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<em>lesser-knowns (then) like Jack Warden and Jack Gilford.</em>
<b>SHUT YOUR MOUTH!</b>
<em>I mean yeah, no one's texting and some of the guys have briefs instead of trunks, and there's less plastic around, but otherwise? Totally familiar.</em>
A lot more people smoked cigarettes back then, too... So you see a lot more ashtrays in the background.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907044Mon, 05 Sep 2011 16:16:21 -0800mikeliemanBy: octobersurprise
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<i>the real takeaway is it's 46 years ago and it really doesn't seem all that different from what my friends and I do on a summer weekend at the beach -- everyone's standing around drinking beer, eating hot dogs off paper plates, everyone's wearing Ray Bans, the girls all have floppy hats.</i>
This struck me also. Even the ways everyone mugged for the camera seems weirdly familiar. Looking at some old family photographs from about the same period recently made me feel the same way. There's my dad, this kid in cords and a t-shirt and my mom in a skirt, top, and cardigan. Neither would've looked too out of place on a street in 2011 (in fact, my first thought when I looked at that picture was "Gap Ad.")
Anyway, this stuff is gold (<small>or gold-plated, at least).</small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907047Mon, 05 Sep 2011 16:19:52 -0800octobersurpriseBy: Ideefixe
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Roddy never came out, but he played a gay character in Compulsion--I don't think anyone who knew him thought he was a closet case. Most of his archive was left to the Academy Library, but these that Luke Sacher has are wonderful!comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907051Mon, 05 Sep 2011 16:23:49 -0800IdeefixeBy: The Whelk
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So, I slept with someone who slept with Rock Hudson, and apparently Rock was a lousey lay,
Also I win at very six degrees game ever.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907099Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:00:57 -0800The WhelkBy: nathancaswell
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Stars! They're just like us!comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907103Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:02:38 -0800nathancaswellBy: hippybear
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Dude, were you even born when Rock Hudson died?
I don't have a problem with age differential in sex relations, but you're giving away way to much to the world with that comment.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907105Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:04:16 -0800hippybearBy: The Whelk
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I'm pretty sure he slept with him when he ( the not rock hudson guy) was sixteen, so...
And one of the best short term affairs I ever had was with a man in this early 60s, so ..there.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907107Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:06:50 -0800The WhelkBy: The Whelk
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Oh and Rock was pretty up there when it happened, if I recall corrected. Rock died a year after I was born, for reference.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907109Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:08:30 -0800The WhelkBy: humanfont
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Where are the smartphones, the laptops and the iPads? Also the audio is terrible.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907116Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:14:11 -0800humanfontBy: octobersurprise
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Re: Rock: Anne Helen Petersen's <a href="http://thehairpin.com/2011/08/scandals-of-classic-hollywood-rock-hudson-hollywoods-most-eligible-bachelor"><i>Rock Hudson, Hollywood's Most Eligible Bachelor</i></a> is a really great read.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907123Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:21:38 -0800octobersurpriseBy: Asparagirl
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Julie Andrews drove a station wagon!
Also, she looks like she was a good mom.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907131Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:29:55 -0800AsparagirlBy: hippybear
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<em>she looks like she was a good mom</em>
We've seen evidence of her being an excellent nanny.
Twice.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907135Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:34:40 -0800hippybearBy: Benny Andajetz
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Who is the blonde at 2:08 in the Sal Mineo one? Is is Juliet Mills?comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907169Mon, 05 Sep 2011 18:03:56 -0800Benny AndajetzBy: Artful Codger
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Natalie <b>Wood</b>.
That is all.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907189Mon, 05 Sep 2011 18:16:33 -0800Artful CodgerBy: dhartung
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Somewhat related, there's a neat bonus feature on the Chaplin DVD (the biopic with Robert Downey, Jr., which is not a great film but a fairly good one on a very difficult subject; his body type is all wrong but Downey's performance is uncanny). Anyway, one day in 1933 Chaplin and Mrs. Chaplin (Paulette Goddard at the time) sailed to Catalina along with a young Alastair Cooke, who <a href="http://www.leonardmaltin.net/October08Journal.htm">filmed them using a portable camera</a>. It all looks strikingly modern, although recreational boating like this was really an elite affectation at the time.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907216Mon, 05 Sep 2011 18:30:21 -0800dhartungBy: hippybear
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<em>the biopic with Robert Downey, Jr., which is not a great film</em>
OH NO YOU DIDN'Tcomment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907219Mon, 05 Sep 2011 18:32:06 -0800hippybearBy: Yakuman
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1965? Needs more Jim Nabors.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907228Mon, 05 Sep 2011 18:37:59 -0800YakumanBy: crunchland
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I have no idea whether Roddy was gay or not, but from those movies, you can pretty much tell he had a total crush on Natalie.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907234Mon, 05 Sep 2011 18:48:35 -0800crunchlandBy: CosmicRayCharles
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<i>Who is the blonde at 2:08 in the Sal Mineo one? Is is Juliet Mills?</i>
Yes, that's Juliet Mills. I believe the appropriate term is "mrowr".comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907251Mon, 05 Sep 2011 19:06:22 -0800CosmicRayCharlesBy: griffey
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I could watch these all day. Natalie Wood and Jane Fonda are impossibly good looking, as is Paul Newman.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907296Mon, 05 Sep 2011 19:45:52 -0800griffeyBy: potsmokinghippieoverlord
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Watching Hope Lange scratch the tar off her feet with charcoal starter reminded me of my childhood (and the tar I'd collect on my feet).
I don't live in SoCal anymore -- does the tar still wash up? That was awful.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907320Mon, 05 Sep 2011 20:07:39 -0800potsmokinghippieoverlordBy: NorthernLite
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Oh, awash in nostalgia at these stars of my youth.
David McCallum/Ilya Kuryakin!
Bobby Sherman ... was bi?
And yes, Natalie Wood was sooo pretty.
<em>Paul Newman's hunky son.</em>
I'm not certain where he is in these vids but I remember he later tried his hand at acting and then died of a drug overdose in the late 70s. I assume that was the greatest tragedy in Newman's life.
As for Paul's looks, every time I catch one of his films from the 50s and 60s I am struck at how surreally beautiful he was.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907322Mon, 05 Sep 2011 20:08:08 -0800NorthernLiteBy: blob
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Much of the area of Malibu where I think this was filmed burnt down in the <a href="http://www.malibucomplete.com/mc_history_dev_1970s-91_disasters.php">1970 Malibu fire.</a> My college roommate lived near there, and his mother told stories of having 15 minutes to gather whatever was going to survive the fire before evacuating, coming back to ashes and nothing more. I've sent him a link to the movies; it's a blast from his past.
And yes, the people of Malibu are prettier than you or I.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907346Mon, 05 Sep 2011 20:36:37 -0800blobBy: Scram
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Since these are silent, a soundtrack. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKbo570keII">Malibu people really know how to live.</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907544Tue, 06 Sep 2011 00:24:45 -0800ScramBy: sonascope
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Ah, Mr. Whelk, we are degrees closer, it seems.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907597Tue, 06 Sep 2011 02:54:00 -0800sonascopeBy: honey-barbara
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Ah, all that casual, enjoyable cigarette-having. [Pines...]comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907618Tue, 06 Sep 2011 03:57:20 -0800honey-barbaraBy: crunchland
http://www.metafilter.com/107160/Hollywood-home-movies-1965#3907629
Not to get all PSA on you, but Paul Newman and Roddy McDowell both died from lung cancer.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907629Tue, 06 Sep 2011 04:20:24 -0800crunchlandBy: honey-barbara
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[stops pining]comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907671Tue, 06 Sep 2011 05:05:41 -0800honey-barbaraBy: Senator
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Natalie Wood. wow.
Seeing her anywhere near water though....comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907708Tue, 06 Sep 2011 05:46:07 -0800SenatorBy: kinnakeet
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This is like a bowl of hot, fresh popcorn. Thanks, BoringPostcards.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3907893Tue, 06 Sep 2011 08:22:16 -0800kinnakeetBy: hippybear
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<small><em>Seeing her anywhere near water though....</em>
It's the only wood that doesn't float!
I'll just show myself out.</small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107160-3908617Tue, 06 Sep 2011 15:43:26 -0800hippybearBy: Halloween Jack
http://www.metafilter.com/107160/Hollywood-home-movies-1965#3908689
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