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Fri, 04 Nov 2011 09:45:43 -0800 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 09:45:43 -0800 en-us http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 No comic sans... http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans <a href="http://www.fastcodesign.com/1665318/the-8-worst-fonts-in-the-world">The 8 Worst Fonts In The World</a> post:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 09:43:17 -0800 fearfulsymmetry Fonts Typography NoXbutY By: griphus http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011619 So it turns out that once you see that the Olympic logo looks like Lisa Simpson performing fellatio, <i>you can never unsee it</i>. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011619 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 09:45:43 -0800 griphus By: MangyCarface http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011640 What I Learned(C): The 2012 olympics are being held in London comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011640 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 09:51:03 -0800 MangyCarface By: Xoebe http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011643 Fonts are like prescription medicine. Off label usage should be discouraged, and for good reason. Except that Olympic font. It should never be used. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011643 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 09:52:08 -0800 Xoebe By: lomcovak http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011650 ugh. font |= typeface. Probably the worst thing to happen to type since the advent of the computer. I'm pretty sure these folks are talking about the design which would be the typeface. The physical implementation of any typeface (such as in a specific size on webpage like <em>this</em> one) is a font. /typedidacticnerd comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011650 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 09:53:11 -0800 lomcovak By: darksasami http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011657 Nobody, but nobody, disses my Souvenir. Because it brings back the heady, feeling of reading a new Choose Your Own Adventure book, that's why. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011657 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 09:53:52 -0800 darksasami By: darksasami http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011660 <small>Hello, stray comma. Where did you come from?</small> comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011660 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 09:55:13 -0800 darksasami By: Foci for Analysis http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011664 The 2012 Olympic Font is hilariously bad. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011664 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 09:57:16 -0800 Foci for Analysis By: The Card Cheat http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011666 <i>&gt; The 2012 Olympic Font</i> Wow, that's awful. I would have printed my wedding invitations in a combination of Papyrus and Comic Sans before I used that. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011666 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 09:57:26 -0800 The Card Cheat By: The Whelk http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011668 NO LISA THAT'S NOT A SAXOPHONE comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011668 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 09:57:50 -0800 The Whelk By: Zed http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011672 I tried skipping ahead to the list, saw Garamond, and was about to get all fighty. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011672 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 09:58:13 -0800 Zed By: penduluum http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011675 If I could straight-up delete one typeface from collective human memory for all time, I think it would be Brush Script. Even more than Comic Sans. I'm glad that one made it. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011675 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 09:59:12 -0800 penduluum By: swift http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011677 Neuland Inline is also used on every pack of <a href="https://www.nascigs.com/Login/tabid/157/Default.aspx?returnurl=%2fdefault.aspx">American Spirit</a> cigarettes. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011677 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 09:59:38 -0800 swift By: svenni http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011678 It should be called the "8 uncoolest fonts in the world", since that seems to be about the depth of the critique. I'll agree that some of those are bad, but others are just over- or misused. And yeah, if you're gonna define someone else's work as "the worst in the world", you'd better have better reasoning than that. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011678 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 09:59:41 -0800 svenni By: griphus http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011680 The Card Cheat's wedding print shop manager is a) a MeFite and b) just got to yell "STOP THE PRESSES" for the first time ever. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011680 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 09:59:48 -0800 griphus By: crapmatic http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011685 I would bet <a href="http://www.pickafont.com/fonts/O/Ottawa.html">Ottawa</a> might have been in this list, had not it become an oddly forgotten typeface. It's a nice sans-serif selection when used sparingly, but not when you set a whole damn book in it. And back in the 1980s it seems that this was all the rage with publishers... I bet I can pull 20 or 30 examples off my bookshelf and they'd all have 1982 or 1983 copyrights. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011685 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:00:53 -0800 crapmatic By: hattifattener http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011687 Meh, weak rantsauce. Like so many font gripes it says very little about the font or why it might be "the worst", just that it has some vaguely annoying association for the author and maybe someone made a snarky quip about it once. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011687 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:01:00 -0800 hattifattener By: DU http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011688 Calling Ransom Note a terrible <strike>font</strike>typeface seems like pretty low-hanging fruit. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011688 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:01:18 -0800 DU By: The Card Cheat http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011689 I don't even remember (or care, really) which font we did use. But I know terrible work when I see it. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011689 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:01:21 -0800 The Card Cheat By: The Whelk http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011691 Anyway he's wrong cause seeing Ransom Note means I'm 18 and about to go get shitfaced in a basement bouncing around to loud music in the near future comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011691 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:01:57 -0800 The Whelk By: Devils Rancher http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011696 I support any "bad fonts" list that includes Papyrus and Brush Script, but I'm going to climb back up on this old hobby horse and ask: WHAT?? <a href="http://new.myfonts.com/fonts/emigre/remedy/">NO REMEDY??</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011696 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:02:40 -0800 Devils Rancher By: clvrmnky http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011699 Oh god, I just do not fucking /care/ about this any more. Use whatever typeface you like for your lost cat poster. Yes, intent and clarity in design is important. But it is important to only the smallest segment of the working public. The rest of us can just set the typeface we like and be done with it. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011699 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:03:42 -0800 clvrmnky By: mrgrimm http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011701 Papyrus is horrible and overused. But <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93674/">we already knew that</a>. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011701 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:04:15 -0800 mrgrimm By: penduluum http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011702 Dance like nobody's watching, Devils Rancher. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011702 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:04:19 -0800 penduluum By: Artw http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011706 2012 is going to be a good year to ber out of London, isn't it? Course, I'm stuck in America, where electoral lunacy will nio doubt bring up it's own design horrors. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011706 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:04:57 -0800 Artw By: swift http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011708 <a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tannenberg_(Schriftart)">Tannenberg Fett</a> is the worst in its own way. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011708 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:05:02 -0800 swift By: Artw http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011711 <i>WHAT?? NO REMEDY??</i> FOR USE ONLY WHEN THERE IS A PICTURE OF A CAT. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011711 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:06:06 -0800 Artw By: The Whelk http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011719 WITHOUT NO REMEDY HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO CONVEY THE FREEDOM AND SIMPLE JOY OF OUR DAILY SPECIALS? comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011719 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:08:54 -0800 The Whelk By: gompa http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011722 <em>Oh god, I just do not fucking /care/ about this any more.</em> No offence, but this is not what not caring about something generally sounds like. Also, I'm glad for this chance to revisit the horror that is the design motif for the 2012 Olympics. It has not only negated every pound spent on 20 years of "Cool Britannia" marketing, it has set back the idea of London as a stylish capital city for a generation. It's the official font of Empire's final end. It should be called Collapse. If you squint a bit, you can actually see London Bridge falling down between the lower-case <em>i</em> and <em>j</em>. It truly is that bad. There can't be too many threads discussing its utter shite-itude. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011722 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:09:42 -0800 gompa By: Smart Dalek http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011728 SO pUNK muSt Be DEaD iF rANsom NOte tYPefACes aRE CoNsidERed unCOOl GeT oFF mY LaWN comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011728 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:11:13 -0800 Smart Dalek By: arm's-length http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011736 <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011685">crapmatic</a>: The "Ottawa" you linked to is actually Hermann Zapf's <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optima">Optima</a> - a gorgeous typeface at display sizes. (But you're right, it's terrible as a book face.) comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011736 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:13:19 -0800 arm's-length By: Slack-a-gogo http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011737 Back when I was battling my out-of-control "free font site" addiction I quickly grew a deep hatred of any "font" named after a band, TV show, or movie. Those probably made me appreciate well crafted fonts and typefaces more than anything else. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011737 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:13:20 -0800 Slack-a-gogo By: koeselitz http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011738 Ridiculous. Just ridiculous. People still use fonts and typefaces? How awful and utterly messy. Like all people who truly care about design and the beauty of letters, I have my computer read every web page via text-to-speech and then carefully copy down all the text in fine black India ink with my own hand-cut quill from the left wing of a rare albino ostrich. Then, when I want to post a comment, I carefully scan the exquisite document and use my own hand-coded OCR to translate the fine letter-forms into electronic text again. I find it laughable that there's anybody who doesn't do it this way, as it's the only way for people who really take the appearance of texts seriously. Keyboards are all well and good, but they're really magnets for novices. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011738 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:13:35 -0800 koeselitz By: Artw http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011746 Most of these really have a 80s novelty Letraset/90s birth of desktop publishing feel to them... For a modern horror I submit that fake japanese looking font you see on games and comics sites all the time. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011746 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:16:20 -0800 Artw By: Thorzdad http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011752 Some good surprises in the list. As a designer trained in the 70's, I had just about totally blocked memories of Souvenir from my mind. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011752 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:19:37 -0800 Thorzdad By: The Whelk http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011755 Lets turn this conversation to a positive note <a href="http://losttype.com/browse/">Some nice Pay What You Like fonts</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011755 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:20:39 -0800 The Whelk By: GenjiandProust http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011757 I suspect that the worst font in the world is always the one you are reading right now. I mean, how often do you stop and think "that is a good looking font!"? I am far more likely to notice a font when it is ugly, it seems. Part of the beauty of a font is that it gets out of the way when I am reading.... comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011757 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:20:49 -0800 GenjiandProust By: Devils Rancher http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011759 <em>As a designer trained in the 70's</em> Cooper Black triggers my PTSD. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011759 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:21:14 -0800 Devils Rancher By: Slack-a-gogo http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011761 I better clear my browser cache before Mrs Agogo sees that I'm spending my afternoons reading about fonts again. Otherwise there's a good chance she'll cut off my serifs. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011761 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:22:55 -0800 Slack-a-gogo By: The Tensor http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011764 Anybody else seeing horrible aliasing on the pull-quotes in this article? All the round letters have little rectangular nipples on top! (Windows 7, Firefox) comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011764 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:23:58 -0800 The Tensor By: swift http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011766 This is the worst font. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011766 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:24:19 -0800 swift By: ymgve http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011774 Is the top one the one used in the article, which looks completely broken because stems are fatter than the rest of the characters? comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011774 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:27:00 -0800 ymgve By: The World Famous http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011775 <em>WHAT?? NO REMEDY?? FOR USE ONLY WHEN THERE IS A PICTURE OF A CAT.</em> Remedy is actually really useful for when you are a robot detective who has to go back in time to 1995 so that you can save the world by making fliers for someone's introspective yet humorous folk music gig at a coffee shop. <em>Cooper Black triggers my PTSD.</em> Cooper Black is the worst thing ever created by humanity. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011775 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:27:19 -0800 The World Famous By: hal9k http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011779 <em>As a designer trained in the 70's Cooper Black triggers my PTSD.</em> Peignot <small>GAH!</small> Ultra Bodoni! Busorama <small>AIEEEE!</small> Tango! Frankfurter! <small>EEK!</small> comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011779 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:28:11 -0800 hal9k By: griphus http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011787 <i>Peignot GAH! Ultra Bodoni! Busorama AIEEEE! Tango! Frankfurter! EEK!</i> Some Manchurian Candidate-style Soviet sleeper agent just got triggered. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011787 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:31:35 -0800 griphus By: crapmatic http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011795 You know, I wouldn't mind throwing <a href="http://www.fontco.com/font-facts/impact.php">Impact</a> on the list: the same font used in all those tiresome Internet meme posters. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011795 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:34:51 -0800 crapmatic By: Sauce Trough http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011802 <i>Nobody, but nobody, disses my Souvenir. Because it brings back the heady, feeling of reading a new Choose Your Own Adventure book, that's why.</i> I think Souvenir was also used in the 1981 Moldvay / Cook D&amp;D boxed sets. When I saw the plus-sized sample on the linked website I was instantly happy but it took me a moment to figure out why. Fuck those people who hate Souvenir. Fuck them. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011802 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:37:10 -0800 Sauce Trough By: Postroad http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011807 It makes more sense to be positive: The ten best fonts etc etc comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011807 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:39:31 -0800 Postroad By: Slap*Happy http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011811 Brush Script, as an accent on retro '30s, '40s and '50s flavored layouts, really works. (A motto on a diner menu below the art-deco logo, for instance.) Comic Sans is dead to everyone forever, tho. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011811 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:41:54 -0800 Slap*Happy By: Artw http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011822 Comic Sans is a perfectly fine font in the correct context... That context being a defunct 90s UI experiment that went nowhere. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011822 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:48:22 -0800 Artw By: fearfulsymmetry http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011826 I think it's worse when something like Arial or Times New Roman is blown up to massive size and used as a headline/cover font. It just looks horrendous. I don't want to be hyperbolic but my local parish newsletter/notice board is an offence to humanity on that front (oh and using about 50 fonts on one page) comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011826 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:50:31 -0800 fearfulsymmetry By: Halloween Jack http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011834 The worst nerds in the world: font nerds. If I had a choice between ridding the world of either Comic Sans or all the people who bitch obsessively about it... well, I'd hope that certain MeFites weren't in the latter group, but I wouldn't lose sleep over it. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011834 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:53:08 -0800 Halloween Jack By: Bunny Ultramod http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011840 Ransom Note is the typeface used in Lebowski by the nihilists to demand money from Lebowski, the other Lebowski, Jeffrey Lebowski, the millionaire. What have you done that is nearly as cool? comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011840 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:54:15 -0800 Bunny Ultramod By: infinitewindow http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011841 Ah 70's typefaces. For me, Cooper Black will always mean <a href="http://www.foxfire.org/">Foxfire</a> and Optima will always be my decrepit twenty-year-old driver's ed textbook. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011841 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:54:54 -0800 infinitewindow By: Zed http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011857 For me, Optima will always be the alien name when typesetting my own <a href="http://spaceship.brainiac.com/Eon/eon-cosmic-enc1.html">Cosmic Encounter</a> alien power cards. (Yes, I know it wasn't a perfect match for the published ones. But it was what I used.) comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011857 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:00:12 -0800 Zed By: Typographica http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011872 The typeface they show for the 2012 Olympics is an <a href="http://myfox.deviantart.com/art/LONDON-2012-Font-96042802">amateur knockoff</a> derived from the logo. It is <em>not</em> used on organization materials. The official font family is in the same angular vein but is properly crafted by a real type designer, <a href="http://alias.dj/#/project/branding-79/1">Gareth Hague</a>. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011872 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:05:47 -0800 Typographica By: oneswellfoop http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011873 When I took a job in the 1990s, designing billing systems for non-standard engineering contracts, I reached the point of designing invoices, cringed at the standard Times New Roman and, looking for something more readable in the limited selection of Microsoft Office fonts of the day and found <strong>Bookman Old Style</strong>. As relatively mediocre as the implementation of Bookman Old Style may have been, I was pleasantly surprised at the utility of something that was pigeonholed as "that '70's font with the swashes" (disclaimer: I've used a swashy version in logos ever since 1979, when it gave me a fun-looking 'w' for a newsletter). It seemed perfect to me for documents that used both columns of numbers and text descriptions longer than one line. During my several years at that job, I got more and more comfortable with Bookman, at one point convincing a Times-loyal manager to use it on all invoices produced by the company. I'm still using Bookman wherever possible - it's the user-defined font I use here a MetaFilter (thank you Matt &amp; Co. for that beautiful pony). Only recently, <a href="http://marketplace.veer.com/font/bookman-complete-jbt0000085">the folks at Veer offered a version of Bookman that is the only font I have ever paid more than a couple bucks for</a>. That version's not good for screen text display (too bold in its standard weight), but if you ever want strong title text (but less overwhelming than the semi-related Clarendon) and a change to toss in an occasional alternate character (like my swashy 'w'), it can be too much fun. Please don't hate it just because the Heritage Foundation uses it. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011873 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:06:01 -0800 oneswellfoop By: liza http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011884 ooh! font wank *breaks out the pop corn* comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011884 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:10:27 -0800 liza By: PostIronyIsNotaMyth http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011894 I was totally hoping I'd click on comments and the font for everyone's comments would be Papyrus, just like that <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/64074/Comic-Sans">epic comic sans post</a> we had a few years back. Oh well... comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011894 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:13:34 -0800 PostIronyIsNotaMyth By: liminalrampaste http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011897 This made me so angry. I love all of these fonts. They produce such poignant sensations. Ecofont is like CHECK IT OUT, I AM THE AREA AROUND A MIRROR Souvenir is like, "Hi baby you're home I made fajitas." Gill Sans Light Shadowed is like, hey man sorry to bother you man that's a nice hat man do you know where I could score some hydro around here man? Brush Script is like "That's a pretty racy postcard, Carrie Fisher!!" Papyrus is like "Ancient people had, like, so much wisdom, man and now, bitch, nobody can fuckin' draw a pentagon anymore, the fuckin' society is all fucked up. Shit." Neuland Inline is like, "Hsssssssss. Hsssssss." Ransom Note is like, GOOGLE RON PAUL. The 2012 Olympic font is like, "my mother never held me when I was young." comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011897 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:14:05 -0800 liminalrampaste By: justkevin http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011907 I'm confused. <a href="http://i.imgur.com/2GEVN.png">This is how this article's font looks on my computer.</a> Is it supposed to look like that? Is this meant to be ironic? comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011907 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:16:32 -0800 justkevin By: Artw http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011919 Youch. I think theres a checkbox for antialiasing somewhere you badly need to click. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011919 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:19:49 -0800 Artw By: delfin http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011926 Kibo swore by <a href="http://i.imgur.com/T7znp.jpg">Zany</a> as the world's worst font, with <a href="">Mecanorma Plumpy</a> as a close runner-up. I tend to believe him. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011926 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:21:06 -0800 delfin By: delfin http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011930 K, no idea why the Plumpy link borked, but it should be <a href="http://i.imgur.com/2FC10.jpg">this</a>. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011930 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:22:25 -0800 delfin By: Jehan http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011944 <em>I think it's worse when something like Arial or Times New Roman is blown up to massive size and used as a headline/cover font. It just looks horrendous. I don't want to be hyperbolic but my local parish newsletter/notice board is an offence to humanity on that front (oh and using about 50 fonts on one page)</em> I took over editing my local magazine because the design annoyed me so much. I'm hardly a designer at all, but it was so outstandingly bad that it hurt even my untrained eyes. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011944 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:27:00 -0800 Jehan By: FatherDagon http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011962 <em>So it turns out that once you see that the Olympic logo looks like Lisa Simpson performing fellatio, you can never unsee it.</em> Sure you can... once you realize the <a href="http://www.fastcodesign.com/1665318/the-8-worst-fonts-in-the-world">coloring</a> more matches <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9d/Maggie_Simpson.png/223px-Maggie_Simpson.png">another Simpsons character</a>. I apologize for ruining your mind. <small>to be fair, it looks like you're not the first to come to that <a href="http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ku3p9a8Ntv1qzbitxo1_r1_250.jpg">visual conclusion</a>, however</small> comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011962 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:32:01 -0800 FatherDagon By: kinnakeet http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011972 Okay, maybe it's not so popular anymore, but <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dom_Casual">Dom Casual</a> used to give me nightmares. Having to typeset ads without number in this hideous mess, with its awful kerning and impossibly ugly proportions, will do that to you. That Olympic thing is an abomination though. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4011972 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:35:53 -0800 kinnakeet By: chemoboy http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4012007 There is no way I can unsee that Lisa Simpson thing. I am going to be giggling through the whole olympics. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4012007 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:44:38 -0800 chemoboy By: Blazecock Pileon http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4012122 <em>Tannenberg Fett is the worst in its own way.</em> Interestingly enough, Nazi Germany actually transitioned the country away from Fraktur typefaces, to using Roman type. This makes the use of Fraktur in video games and movies kind of funny. Some German authors used these typefaces again after WWII as a statement of breaking with the country's troubled past. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4012122 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 12:30:27 -0800 Blazecock Pileon By: Glinn http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4012152 Don't care. Still like Papyrus. I guess I'm just totally uncultured. But so are all the people who complain about it just because other people complain about it. Which is likely some of you. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4012152 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 12:38:20 -0800 Glinn By: Artw http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4012177 You should open a Thai resteraunt! comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4012177 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 12:45:41 -0800 Artw By: Devils Rancher http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4012242 <em>Don't care. Still like Papyrus. </em> It's not just that it's bad. It's really only mediocre, but it's horribly over-used. I'll admit to not totally minding it, before I saw it on every damn jar at the grocery store &amp; every cultural event flyer for the last 10 years. It's become a lazy stereotype go-to font for anyone wanting to denote some "ethnicity" to anything. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4012242 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 13:02:33 -0800 Devils Rancher By: MiltonRandKalman http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4012245 <em>WHAT?? NO REMEDY??</em> How do you expect the neighbors to announce their 7-year-old daughter's birthday pool party? If you use <a href="http://new.myfonts.com/fonts/adobe/giddyup/">Giddy-Up</a> they'll expect ponies! WHEN THEY DON'T SEE PONIES, THE CRYING STARTS! PINK CUPCAKES CAN NOT STOP THE TEARS! <strong>IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?!</strong> No, of course not, use Remedy. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4012245 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 13:04:17 -0800 MiltonRandKalman By: The ____ of Justice http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4012272 I unfortunately assumed "worst fonts in the world" meant "worst fonts in the WORLD" and expected to see crappy but intriguing fonts for Chinese, Arabic, etc. I has disappoint. I guess I'm the only one who was really annoyed by the English-centric title? comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4012272 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 13:12:38 -0800 The ____ of Justice By: MiltonRandKalman http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4012277 <em>Don't care. Still like Papyrus.</em> I want to be there when lawyer reads your aunt's will and announce you've inherited her stationary, wicker knick-knack and hand-made soap store. I wanna see that light in your eye fade out. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4012277 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 13:13:56 -0800 MiltonRandKalman By: Artw http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4012280 <i>I has disappoint. I guess I'm the only one who was really annoyed by the English-centric title?</i> Probably. But I would be interested in seeing examples of non-latin fonts that suck. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4012280 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 13:14:53 -0800 Artw By: i_am_joe's_spleen http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4012316 I loved the jibe about crackled Letraset on a school magazine. You have to be a certain age for that to really hit home. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4012316 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 13:26:04 -0800 i_am_joe's_spleen By: carping demon http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4012378 In answer to nobody above, I've loved alphabets since before I could read. When I was nine or ten (I could read by then) I saw Brush Script in a book of alphabets in a stationery store (I also loved stationery stores) and was quite taken with the cap T. I've used it to sign my name ever since. 30 years later I spent a decade setting ad type, so I saw plenty of it. It was/is far from the worst (I'd rather see my own blood than another word in Mystral). Type went to shit with the advent of the PC in the 80s. Everybody thinks they're a typefounder. I watched a craft and an industry die, and seldom see type worth looking at anymore. /bitterness comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4012378 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 13:46:29 -0800 carping demon By: Sauce Trough http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4012394 <i>It's (Papyrus) not just that it's bad. It's really only mediocre, but it's horribly over-used.</i> I've been enjoying <a href="http://twitter.com/#!/yourauntdiane">Your Aunt Diane</a> much more since I made a custom stylesheet that displays it in Papyrus. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4012394 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 13:59:12 -0800 Sauce Trough By: Devils Rancher http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4012409 Your Aunt Diane &amp; <a href="http://twitter.com/#!/FriendFromHS">Friend From HS</a> are about the best gag Twitter accounts out there. That one should totally be in Comic Sans. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4012409 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 14:07:07 -0800 Devils Rancher By: Sassyfras http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4012414 <a href="http://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/im-comic-sans-asshole">I'm Comic Sans, Asshole</a> . . . nice to see comic sans getting a little respect. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4012414 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 14:09:57 -0800 Sassyfras By: ardgedee http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4012419 I've been told that since Cooper Black is getting a little too much attention to be cool any more, the hipsters are turning to <a href="http://new.myfonts.com/fonts/urw/hobo/">Hobo</a> to sate their need for fontographic irony. I hope this is not true. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4012419 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 14:11:36 -0800 ardgedee By: Glinn http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4012561 <em>It's not just that it's bad. It's really only mediocre, but it's horribly over-used. I'll admit to not totally minding it, before I saw it on every damn jar at the grocery store &amp; every cultural event flyer for the last 10 years. It's become a lazy stereotype go-to font for anyone wanting to denote some "ethnicity" to anything.</em> Yeah, yeah. I'll probably change my *%&amp;^!* banner. It just seems that I've seen far more grar about the idea of the font, than the actual font in all these million places it's supposed to be. I don't really doubt that it's true, but I haven't seen it so much, or it isn't noteworthy to me. And I do think some people get all up-in-arms about it because they're supposed to, rather than because they've been made nauseous by its prevalence. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4012561 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 15:20:45 -0800 Glinn By: oneswellfoop http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4012602 <a href="http://www.behance.net/gallery/MEKKANIKA/2335016">Here's a new contender</a> (all caps, extreme steampunkery, probably unreadable at anything below 500 point) comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4012602 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 15:40:13 -0800 oneswellfoop By: Doleful Creature http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4012641 "You know what really gets my goat? Novices and/or lazy designers." Yeah, you tell'em! This article is the <strong>worst</strong>. SEO linkbait to the fucking max. It's pretty simple, friends: the right tool for the right job. The best designers understand this well, and they don't talk much about it because they're too busy doing good work. But hey! Since lists are so popular on the web these days, here's my list of favorite typefaces (i.e. typefaces I, a non-designer, have actually paid for because I love them so much): 1. <a href="http://www.fontshop.com/fontlist/families/ff_meta/">Meta</a> (for technical documents at work) 2. <a href="http://www.fontshop.com/fontlist/genres/futura/">Futura</a> (for postery stuff, especially Futura Bold) 3. <a href="http://www.fontshop.com/fonts/downloads/pampatype/borges_family_ot/">Borges</a> (for long booky stuff) 4. <a href="http://www.fontshop.com/fonts/singles/fontfont/ff_tartine_script_ot_black/">Tartine Script Black</a> (for logo-y stuff) 5. <a href="http://www.fontshop.com/fonts/downloads/fontfont/ff_din_offc_condensed/">Din Condensed</a> (posters, again) 6. <a href="http://www.typography.com/fonts/font_overview.php?productLineID=100030">Gotham Rounded</a> (for cute stuff) 7. <a href="http://marketplace.veer.com/type/umt0000447">Phaeton</a> (my Papyrus alternative) comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4012641 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 16:06:51 -0800 Doleful Creature By: joshwa http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4012665 To me, nothing will ever top <a href="http://new.myfonts.com/search/algerian/fonts/">Algerian</a>. <em>("Hey, look, I'm old-world!")</em> Once you start seeing it, you'll start seeing it <strong>everywhere</strong>. <a href="http://new.myfonts.com/search/curlz/fonts/">Curlz</a> is a close second... comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4012665 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 16:21:10 -0800 joshwa By: 4eyes http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4012682 <small>(To me, the 2012 Olympics logo looks like Maggie Simpson playing Space Invaders.)<small></small></small> comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4012682 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 16:31:15 -0800 4eyes By: mippy http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4012699 <em>This article is the worst. SEO linkbait to the fucking max.</em> It's taken from a book on fonts by Simon Garfield, who's an acclaimed non-fiction writer (The Nation's Favourite is a fabulous book, though perhaps only if you lived in Britain from about 1970-1995) - it wasn't actually written for the web. Though the idea of SEO in printed books amuses me - I'm picturing an acknowledgements page that spells out CIALIS with the first letter of every sentence. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4012699 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 16:46:47 -0800 mippy By: oneswellfoop http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4012799 <a href="http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lu5e7xHGcZ1qz6f9yo1_500.jpg">All this font talk...</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4012799 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 18:03:43 -0800 oneswellfoop By: The ____ of Justice http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4013063 Speaking of fonts, iotic made a lovely font that averages out all the fonts on his/her computer. <a href="http://projects.metafilter.com/3330/Avera">A Mefi project.</a> I wonder what averaging out all the crazy fonts listed above would look like. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4013063 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 21:35:13 -0800 The ____ of Justice By: PinkMoose http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4013110 I love cooper black, because it reminds me of slightly broken down, worn out, threadbare pleasures from the 70s. You know, like plastic furniture, disco cuts, thousand island dressing, key parties. i like to see it used with super graphics of rainbows. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4013110 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 22:36:11 -0800 PinkMoose By: pmcp http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4013115 Rather than dad dancing I see the 2012 Olympics font as equivalent to Jeremy Paxman talking to Dizzee Rascal. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4013115 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 22:50:13 -0800 pmcp By: fearfulsymmetry http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4013189 <em>To me, nothing will ever top Algerian. ("Hey, look, I'm old-world!") Once you start seeing it, you'll start seeing it everywhere.</em> Oh yes, the font of a thousand self-pub/small press steampunk novel/rpg covers comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4013189 Sat, 05 Nov 2011 02:11:09 -0800 fearfulsymmetry By: Grangousier http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4013219 <i>The official font family is in the same angular vein but is properly crafted by a real type designer, Gareth Hague.</i> It's still not very nice, is it? The ultimate example that points out that Times (NR) isn't ideal for headlines is the Patrick Troughton <em>Dr Who</em> title sequence. Otherwise I'm getting tired of people endlessly pointing out "The Ten Worst Whatevers Evurr!" and really only gave this the time of day because it was Simon Garfield. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4013219 Sat, 05 Nov 2011 04:41:46 -0800 Grangousier By: Joe in Australia http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4013254 Delfin <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4011926">wrote</a>: Kibo swore by Zany as the world's worst font ... Oh great, now he's going to come post a comment. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4013254 Sat, 05 Nov 2011 05:52:45 -0800 Joe in Australia By: Fleebnork http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4013428 <em>It's pretty simple, friends: the right tool for the right job. The best designers understand this well, and they don't talk much about it because they're too busy doing good work.</em> Some of us bitch about it because we have the misfortune of working for clueless managers who want things to "pop". comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4013428 Sat, 05 Nov 2011 08:39:23 -0800 Fleebnork By: Diag http://www.metafilter.com/109121/No-comic-sans#4013661 I have only recently discovered my typography fetish, but I do agree that it's more in the presentation than the actual typeface. This <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCSA7kKNu2Y&ob=av2e">Weird Al Yankovic clip</a> really floats my boat, and contains quite a few of the less loved typefaces (I an ironic context, I guess). comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109121-4013661 Sat, 05 Nov 2011 12:27:37 -0800 Diag "Yes. Something that interested us yesterday when we saw it." "Where is she?" His lodgings were situated at the lower end of the town. 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