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Comments on MetaFilter post The LongshipThu, 17 Nov 2011 06:37:45 -0800Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:37:45 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60The Longship
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship
In Tonsberg, Norway, they are <a href="http://www.osebergvikingskip.no/eng/index.php">building</a> a Viking Ship. By hand, using the same tools and processes the vikings used. <br /><br />One of Britian's leading craft-heritage advocates, <a href="http://greenwood-carving.blogspot.com/">Robin Wood</a>, has gone to help, and is blogging his experience.post:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:34:17 -0800ChrischriscrafthandmadevikingshipsarchaeologyBy: griphus
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034276
Same proccesses? I dunno, those people look pretty sober to me.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034276Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:37:45 -0800griphusBy: Harald74
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034278
I would like English coastal cities to note that this is strictly for educational purposes. No need to lock up your valuables or hide away your maidens. No sireee....comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034278Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:38:30 -0800Harald74By: Capt. Renault
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034288
Awesome. They'll steal the Lindisfarne Gospels yet!comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034288Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:41:39 -0800Capt. RenaultBy: fight or flight
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034291
Awesome! I wonder what kind of loot they'll be carrying. Maybe some iron ore, a few Steel Swords of Frost Resistance.. wait. This is a Skyrim thread, right?
<small>Seriously though, this is neat.</small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034291Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:42:48 -0800fight or flightBy: Sternmeyer
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034298
This is awesome!comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034298Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:44:56 -0800SternmeyerBy: elizardbits
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034304
I was expecting scruffy bearded dudes in hand-tanned leathers, dammit. Also there should be much quaffing of ales. WHERE IS THE QUAFFING.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034304Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:46:42 -0800elizardbitsBy: robocop is bleeding
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034305
If only the Greeks weren't in the midst of a financial crisis. They could build a trireme and we could settle this once and for all.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034305Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:46:57 -0800robocop is bleedingBy: EmpressCallipygos
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034313
The "click here to volunteer" link seems to be down; I'd love to know more about how to volunteer on-site becuase <em>mother of god</em> would that be an awesome vacation ("What did I do for my week off? Oh, just <em>built a Viking ship</em>, y'know.")comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034313Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:49:52 -0800EmpressCallipygosBy: nathancaswell
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034316
this thread is going to lead me to reinstall Civilization, isn't it?comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034316Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:50:27 -0800nathancaswellBy: bl1nk
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034318
I was rather hoping that this was related to the <a href="http://plancast.com/p/658y/2015-viking-raid-britain">2015 Viking Raid of Britain</a> which, frankly, sounds like the sort of viral collision of SCAdians, Burners and Nerf modders that can only occur on the Internet. Now just add drunken sailing in the North Sea for even more hilarity.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034318Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:51:10 -0800bl1nkBy: CheeseDigestsAll
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034322
Oops: <em>Earlier replicas of the Oseberg ship have been poor sailers. Ragnar Thorseth's "Dronningen" capsized in a fresh breeze on her maiden voyage after 20 seconds</em>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034322Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:52:41 -0800CheeseDigestsAllBy: three blind mice
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034325
<i>G<a href="http://www.regia.org/Ships1.htm">etting the ship into the water has never been simply a matter of shoving her down the bank into the water.</a> Before the Viking were Christian, the launching ceremony of a warship involved we are told a very bloodthirsty human sacrifice and even today we pour a blood substitute over the bow of a ship when she is launched. Champagne is a very new idea, as it used to be red wine ..........</i>
We will see how strong the commitment to the original Viking process is when they get to this part.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034325Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:53:18 -0800three blind miceBy: Sourisnoire
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034328
Ha! The Oseberg ship is hardly seaworthy. <a href="http://www.bataviawerf.nl/de-7-provincien1.html">But by all means, have a go if you think you're tough enough.</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034328Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:54:41 -0800SourisnoireBy: Randwulf
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034331
Ooooooooh!
*coughs and deepens voice a 1/2 octave further*
ÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖ!comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034331Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:55:19 -0800RandwulfBy: Bulgaroktonos
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034336
<i>I was expecting scruffy bearded dudes in hand-tanned leathers, dammit.</i>
Seriously, I took a college class on Vikings that had people who looked more like Vikings than this and they were constrained by the "don't wear period costumes" social norm that is in effect even at the University of Chicago (most of the time).comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034336Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:56:25 -0800BulgaroktonosBy: griphus
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034343
I am picturing sitting in a class full of bored Norwegian Black Metal dudes, all decked out in corpse paint and gauntlets and shit, absentmindedly carving pentagrams into the table with incredibly elaborate ceremonial knives they bought online for a guy who claims they were tempered in goat blood.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034343Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:59:31 -0800griphusBy: griphus
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034344
...<i>from</i> a guy...comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034344Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:00:00 -0800griphusBy: infini
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034348
Did Thor Heyerdahl ever look into this previously? I do hope they're successful, I like the idea of attempting to recreate the old techniques.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034348Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:01:42 -0800infiniBy: Bulgaroktonos
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034360
<i>I am picturing sitting in a class full of bored Norwegian Black Metal dudes</i>
Actually, the only bored metal dude was Lev, and he mostly limited his absent minded activities to drumming loudly on every available surface, no matter how many times he was supposed to stop. The knife thing wasn't totally out of the question, though, and I did once hear him have a conversation about which specific subgenre of metal some random Icelandic band should be classified as.
He did rock a pretty sweet beard, though, so he's definitely in the "looked like a Viking" camp.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034360Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:07:44 -0800BulgaroktonosBy: misteraitch
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034366
Randwulf: that should be ØØØØØØØØØØØØ! (ÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖ! is Swedish).comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034366Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:09:43 -0800misteraitchBy: griphus
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034377
<i>Actually, the only bored metal dude was Lev...</i>
Growing up, most of my friends were Russian metalheads, so <i>please</i> tell me that this dude was Russian just so I know there's some consistency in this crazy world of ours.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034377Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:15:45 -0800griphusBy: villanelles at dawn
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034378
Ø RLY?comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034378Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:15:49 -0800villanelles at dawnBy: RedEmma
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034390
Actually, it should be ÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅ!
ØØØØØØØØØØ sounds sorta like "EHHHHHHH."comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034390Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:21:51 -0800RedEmmaBy: OHenryPacey
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034395
the Robin Wood blog is fascinating, thanks for the find!comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034395Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:22:48 -0800OHenryPaceyBy: villanelles at dawn
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034396
Viking cortex deletion reason: øø.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034396Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:23:30 -0800villanelles at dawnBy: OHenryPacey
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034399
....should have said 'riveting'.....that blog is....rivetingcomment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034399Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:25:19 -0800OHenryPaceyBy: kersplunk
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034433
<a href="http://www.vikingtoday.com/ships/denmark/seastallion-from-glendalough.htm">See also</a> - a Viking ship built in Dublin was found in Roskilde Fjord, they built a replica of it and <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/programmes/vikingvoyage/">sailed it back to Dublin</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034433Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:42:21 -0800kersplunkBy: carter
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034434
<i>that blog is....riveting</i>
I think you mean 'klinking'?
Things like this are really cool.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034434Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:42:35 -0800carterBy: TedW
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034467
The hammer of the gods will drive their ship to new lands....comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034467Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:56:45 -0800TedWBy: TedW
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034471
Also, needs a "ralphwiggumsdreams" tagcomment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034471Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:57:50 -0800TedWBy: griphus
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034519
Why, are they building a <i>metaphorical</i> longship?
<small>LET IT BEGIN</small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034519Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:13:37 -0800griphusBy: elizardbits
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034540
<small><small>INTERNETS FISTICUFFS</small></small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034540Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:23:57 -0800elizardbitsBy: Abiezer
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034543
<em>See also - a Viking ship built in Dublin was found in Roskilde Fjord, they built a replica of it and sailed it back to Dublin.
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I made <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/62518/This-time-a-welcome-on-Clontarfs-plains">a post</a> about that at the time. Not that you feckers appreciated it. *pout*
Any road, good to see the men (<em>and</em> women!) of the north thinking outside the box when it comes to models for European economic interaction in these troubled times.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034543Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:25:08 -0800AbiezerBy: AzraelBrown
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034566
<i>See also - a Viking ship built in Dublin was found in Roskilde Fjord, they built a replica of it and sailed it back to Dublin.</i>
We went even further -- <a href="http://www.hawley.govoffice.com/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SEC=%7B233CF720-CA4A-49C2-8F9B-B1C52E62087C%7D">some guy built a viking ship in Minnesota and sailed it to Norway</a>. I can see the <a href="http://www.hjemkomstcenter.com/">museum's roof</a> from my back yard. Interestingly, they had a Norwegian captain, because <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordland_(boat)">nordlands</a> are pretty much smaller versions of viking ships and they found a guy capable of handling such a ship.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034566Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:33:34 -0800AzraelBrownBy: GenjiandProust
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034570
<em>Also there should be much quaffing of ales. WHERE IS THE QUAFFING.</em>
There is no quaffing during the fabrication process. Quaffing while shipbuilding is what got Oddi Sixfingers his name, and you don't want to end up like Oddi Sixfingers, do you, kids?comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034570Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:34:14 -0800GenjiandProustBy: jupturch
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034635
As odd as it may seem, you can head out to Geneva, IL and <a href="http://www.vikingship.us/">see another viking ship</a> replica that was made for the Columbian Exposition in 189X. This was also built in Norway and then sailed across the north Atlantic (!) w/ a small crew, through some riverways and to Chicago. After the expo, the ship bounced around a few locations in the city and is now housed in essentially a tent in a park in Geneva (although it's dragon themed figurehead is in the special collection at the Museum of Science and Industry, I think). It's seen better days, but there's an organization that's taking care of it and trying to restore it to its former glory. We took a group of kids who are doing a production of Beowulf out there and the docents put on a nice show. Tours are over for the year, but you can go and take a gander April through October. You can support their efforts if you're so inclined.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034635Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:01:19 -0800jupturchBy: argonauta
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034652
<em>Awesome! I wonder what kind of loot they'll be carrying.</em>
Lutefisk.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034652Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:08:18 -0800argonautaBy: infini
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034656
and aquavitcomment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034656Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:10:34 -0800infiniBy: TheWhiteSkull
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034666
I should really write to my cousins in Orkney...you know, give them a quick heads up...comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034666Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:14:30 -0800TheWhiteSkullBy: kirkaracha
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4034823
Well, the Vikings <em>are</em> having a crappy season. Maybe this back-to-basics approach is just the thing to turn the season around.
<small><a href="http://www.sportsmansdaily.com/thescrum/wp-content/viking-ship-300x199.jpg">As if.</a></small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4034823Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:33:03 -0800kirkarachaBy: Kid Charlemagne
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4035300
<i>I'd love to know more about how to volunteer on-site because mother of god would that be an awesome vacation</i>
What are you doing in March next year? I know some guys building a 10th century workshop using all traditional tools and techniques.
<small>Making stuff out of wood with the tools they tools of 1000 years ago is whee I'm a Viking!</small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4035300Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:22:45 -0800Kid CharlemagneBy: infini
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4035306
Where?comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4035306Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:24:31 -0800infiniBy: Abiezer
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4035419
<em>whee I'm a Viking!</em>
Pleasing typo of the day award goes to you, Kid.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4035419Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:01:48 -0800AbiezerBy: dd42
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4035690
<small>If only the Greeks weren't in the midst of a financial crisis. They could build a trireme and we could settle this once and for all.
<a href="http://www.hellenicnavy.gr/trihrhs_en.asp">Already done</a>. Let the battle begin!</small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4035690Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:32:57 -0800dd42By: gueneverey
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4035744
<em>I wonder what kind of loot they'll be carrying. Maybe some iron ore, a few Steel Swords of Frost Resistance.</em>
<em>I am picturing sitting in a class full of bored Norwegian Black Metal dudes</em>
<em>Well, the Vikings are having a crappy season.</em>
Relevant: <a href="http://www.wolfgnards.com/index.php/2010/11/11/geek-jock-or-viking">Geek, Jock, or Viking</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4035744Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:02:46 -0800guenevereyBy: RedEmma
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4035872
Duluth, MN also has the Leif Erikson Ship, that set sail from Norway in the 1920s, taking two years on the journey. <a href="http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2006/04/17/vikingship/">It's been somewhat neglected.</a>
<i><a href="http://www.leiferiksonvikingship.com/information.htm">The Leif Erikson Ship</a> was built in Korgen, Norway by local boat builders to replicate the type of ship sailed and the route used by the Vikings in their settlement of North America around 997 A.D. The 42 foot vessel was completed in April of 1926.
Captain Gerhard Folgaro and his crew of three left Bergen, Norway for North America on May 23rd of that same year.
On the voyage to Duluth, the ship stopped at the Shetland Islands, Faroe Islands, Iceland, Greenland and landed at St. Johns, Newfoundland on July 20, 1926. While crossing the Atlantic, the crew encountered heavy seas of hurricane proportions and became ice-locked near Greenland.
After landing in Newfoundland the crew and ship set sail for Boston, Massachusetts and arrived in August of 1926. They had traveled a distance of 6,700 miles, the greatest distance for a ship of its size in modern history, logging 10,000 miles, arriving in Duluth, Minnesota on June 23, 1927
The goal was accomplished, reenacting Leif Erikson's route taken in 997 A.D., proving that the Vikings traveled the Atlantic to North America.</i>comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4035872Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:13:34 -0800RedEmmaBy: unliteral
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4035892
Maybe the people at <a href="http://ozarkmedievalfortress.com/en-us/">Ozark Medieval Fortress</a> should think about bringing forward their schedule.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4035892Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:24:38 -0800unliteralBy: Chrischris
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4036016
<em>Duluth, MN also has the Leif Erikson Ship, that set sail from Norway in the 1920s, taking two years on the journey. It's been somewhat neglected.</em>
This is very sad, especially since, only 100 miles or so away, Grand Marais, MN is the home of the <a href="http://www.northhouse.org/">North House Folk School</a>, who regularly host many of America's premiere traditional woodwrights, blacksmiths, and wood-frame builders for workshops and residencies. Given the opportunity, I imagine many there would absolutely jump at the chance of restoring a traditional clinker-built longship, as well as help in creating an era- and material-appropriate building to house it in.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4036016Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:35:10 -0800ChrischrisBy: RedEmma
http://www.metafilter.com/109543/The-Longship#4038534
Yeah, Chrischris. You know.... someone ought to investigate the finances of that non-profit, I think. I hear chatter all the time wondering where the hell the money has gone. The directors are kind of... sketchy.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.109543-4038534Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:14:41 -0800RedEmma
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