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Comments on MetaFilter post Photographs of PalmyraThu, 15 Dec 2011 10:18:50 -0800Thu, 15 Dec 2011 10:18:50 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60Photographs of Palmyra
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<a href="http://blog.quintinlake.com/2011/12/15/palmyra-syria-architectural-photography/">Photographs</a> and <a href="http://quintinlake.photoshelter.com/gallery/Palmyra-Syria/G0000DGOeLChQ8CU">more photographs</a> of the ancient city of <a href="http://www.historytoday.com/richard-stoneman/syrian-cuckoo-rome-and-unconquered-sun">Palmyra</a>, seat of the <a href="http://www.ancient.eu.com/image/355/">Palmyrene Empire</a> and home to <a href="http://ancienthistory.about.com/library/bl/bl_text_gibbon_1_11_3.htm">Queen Zenobia</a>.post:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.110550Thu, 15 Dec 2011 10:17:05 -0800RumpleSyriaHistoryArchaeologyZenobiaPalmyraPalmyreneRomanRomansMiddleEastPhotosPhotographsQuintinLakeBy: pointystick
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These are beautiful! Thanks, Rumple!comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.110550-4081609Thu, 15 Dec 2011 10:18:50 -0800pointystickBy: Artw
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Nice!
BTW, the History of Rome podcast that was <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/105389/Vox-Roma">on Mefi a while back</a> is great stuff, and covers Zenobia baout, oh, somewhere between 100 and 500 hours in. :-)comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.110550-4081650Thu, 15 Dec 2011 10:35:15 -0800ArtwBy: rebent
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Yes, I also learned about Palmyra and Queen Zenobia from Mike Duncan. Man that was one crazy queen, what did she think she was doing butting heads with the roman empire?comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.110550-4081670Thu, 15 Dec 2011 10:41:45 -0800rebentBy: jquinby
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Beautiful stuff, thanks for posting this (and how in the hell did I that awesome post back in July??)comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.110550-4081676Thu, 15 Dec 2011 10:43:32 -0800jquinbyBy: Artw
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If there was a post of the year competition that one would get my vote.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.110550-4081699Thu, 15 Dec 2011 10:56:58 -0800ArtwBy: The 10th Regiment of Foot
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When I visited Palmyra it was the first time I'd ever ridden a camel. I rode down the grand collonade from the oasis at the new city, through the valley of the monuments and up to the Mamluk citadel. It was 130 degrees (no fooling) in the sun so the camel drovers placed me in a keffiyeh, after a long argument, the drovers decided which tribal style turban I would have my keffiyeh tied. When we stopped at one of the tower tombs, I rolled a rather large stone near the entryway with my foot and its shadow erupted with scarab beetles.
Such a neat place, such a neat country, such a sad state of affairs!comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.110550-4081707Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:00:41 -0800The 10th Regiment of FootBy: UbuRoivas
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I've been there too. To cast a tiny downer, it's disappointing that a fair proportion of the ruins are actually modern concrete reconstructions, poorly daubed with that "wash effect" paint to make them look marbled.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.110550-4081753Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:21:50 -0800UbuRoivasBy: Artw
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Thanks to The History of Rome I now know that Celopatra, who was pretty much the template for Zenobia, was in fact Greek. Possibly this is a hole in my education but her not being Egyptian was news to me.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.110550-4081754Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:22:10 -0800ArtwBy: UbuRoivas
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Yeah, Alexander conquered Egypt in 332BC and installed the Ptolemaic dynasty, who were a bunch of Greeks who ruled until 30AD, apparently refusing to learn or speak Egyptian, with Cleopatra as the sole exception who bothered to learn the local language. Their capital was, unsurprisingly, Alexandria, and the Greek influence there was why it attracted so many great scholars & established itself as an intellectual powerhouse of the ancient world, including such leading lights as Euclid, Ptolemy (the astronomer, unrelated to the dynasty) and Eratosthenes.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.110550-4081803Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:38:00 -0800UbuRoivasBy: kcds
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Saskatoon is in the room
Poulsbo is in the room
Bennettsville is in the room
Palmyra is in the roomcomment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.110550-4082327Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:05:29 -0800kcdsBy: Slithy_Tove
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<strong>You, Andrew Marvell </strong>
And here face down beneath the sun
And here upon earth's noonward height
To feel the always coming on
The always rising of the night:
To feel creep up the curving east
The earthy chill of dusk and slow
Upon those under lands the vast
And ever climbing shadow grow
And strange at Ecbatan the trees
Take leaf by leaf the evening strange
The flooding dark about their knees
The mountains over Persia change
And now at Kermanshah the gate
Dark empty and the withered grass
And through the twilight now the late
Few travelers in the westward pass
And Baghdad darken and the bridge
Across the silent river gone
And through Arabia the edge
Of evening widen and steal on
<strong>And deepen on Palmyra's street</strong>
The wheel rut in the ruined stone
And Lebanon fade out and Crete
high through the clouds and overblown
And over Sicily the air
Still flashing with the landward gulls
And loom and slowly disappear
The sails above the shadowy hulls
And Spain go under and the shore
Of Africa the gilded sand
And evening vanish and no more
The low pale light across that land
Nor now the long light on the sea:
And here face downward in the sun
To feel how swift how secretly
The shadow of the night comes on . . .
-- Archibald MacLeish
<small><small>emphasis mine</small></small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.110550-4082949Thu, 15 Dec 2011 18:40:31 -0800Slithy_ToveBy: UbuRoivas
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On the subject of poetry, people often remark that there's something so very Ozymandian about the ruins there in the sand, and as it turns out, a poet called Thomas Love Peacock <a href="http://www.thomaslovepeacock.net/palmyra.html">wrote a poem about, and named, Palmyra</a>.
He was a close friend of P.B. Shelley (and even became his literary executor after the latter's death) so there's an argument that Ozymandias was a response to the poem, Palmyra*.
<small>* Mary A. Quinn, "'Ozymandias' as Shelley's Rejoinder to Peacock's 'Palmyra.'" English Language Notes 24 (1984): 48-56.</small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.110550-4083050Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:38:14 -0800UbuRoivasBy: MykReeve
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I visited Palmyra back in 2008. It was an amazing place, and one of many astonishing highlights of Syria. I've put up a handful of photos on flickr: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mykreeve/tags/palmyra">Palmyra</a>.
Just as impressive were the ruins at <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mykreeve/tags/apamea">Apamea</a> and the ghost city of <a href=""> Resafa</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.110550-4083675Fri, 16 Dec 2011 03:39:28 -0800MykReeve
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