Comments on: Nothing's changed

Nothing's changed

mysticreferee — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:21:00 -0800

The Smiths are never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever going to reunite - ever.

See also: ... never, ever, ever, ever ... even if a vegetarian Coachella happens. ... ever, ever, ever ...

By: Egg Shen

Egg Shen — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:23:44 -0800

In other music news: Kurt Cobain is still dead.

By: msalt

msalt — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:25:26 -0800

Morrissey's last album is named "Years of Refusal" for a reason.

By: msalt

msalt — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:26:11 -0800

even if a vegetarian Coachella happens. Reunions are murder?

By: boo_radley

boo_radley — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:26:20 -0800

Who else read this like a Smiths song?

By: howfar

howfar — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:26:46 -0800

First Jim Morrison, now Stephen Morrissey. What is this, alphabetical list of "Pricks of Rock Music" week?

By: eyeballkid

eyeballkid — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:29:06 -0800

Never had no reunion ever?

By: The World Famous

The World Famous — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:29:17 -0800

Who else read this like a Smiths song? I did. But I read everything like a Smiths song, so maybe I don't count.

By: Curious Artificer

Curious Artificer — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:31:08 -0800

Stop me if you think that you've heard this one before. . .

By: blaneyphoto

blaneyphoto — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:33:20 -0800

Please, please, please let me get what I want...

By: THAT William Mize

THAT William Mize — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:33:43 -0800

Reunite? Hell, we can't even get Morrissey to show up to a show ALONE in Florida, much less bring Johnny Marr with him. He can sell tickets, but he can't show up to honor those tickets. It's like Seinfeld, trying to rent a car.

By: beaucoupkevin

beaucoupkevin — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:33:51 -0800

Am I the only Smiths fan that is 100% okay with this? They have a great legacy, the recent re-issues sound terrific and Morrissey's solo career has been interesting. A reunion for the sake of money would make me like everyone involved just a bit less.

By: gwint

gwint — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:33:59 -0800

Bigmouth Strikes Again.

By: gwint

gwint — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:35:28 -0800

How Soon is Never?

By: gallus

gallus — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:43:29 -0800

Money Changes Everything (from, ironically enough, The World Won't Listen)

By: photoslob

photoslob — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:44:19 -0800

As a Smiths fan this makes me happy. Honestly, I wish Morrissey would stop recording and touring and become the iconoclast hermit we all thought he'd be by now. I don't know why but the older he gets the more embarrassed I become for him for continuing to try and be relevant.

By: koeselitz

koeselitz — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:44:38 -0800

Promises, promises.

By: blucevalo

blucevalo — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:44:38 -0800

The music that they constantly play, it says nothing to me about my life.

By: Rock Steady

Rock Steady — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:45:13 -0800

boo_radley: Who else read this like a Smiths song? Because I have an 11-year-old daughter, I'm afraid I read it like a Taylor Swift song.

By: Infinite Jest

Infinite Jest — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:46:17 -0800

There's a bit of chatter in the UK today that they will reform to headline Glastonbury. I am very sceptical. But then again, I never thought the Stone Roses would reform, and they had totally denied it would happen, and then a few months later it did. So who knows?

By: Admiral Haddock

Admiral Haddock — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:46:18 -0800

I thought Years of Refusal was pretty good. I do wish he'd stop making that eeuurrgh noise he makes for emphasis when singing live.

By: mary8nne

mary8nne — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:46:19 -0800

I am in firm support of Morrissey. The Smiths were a great band. Awesome, I loved them when I was in my teens and still do listen to them occasionally. Its impressive to see that Morrissey is one of the few artists to have enough conviction to just say NO to the lure of money over self respect and refuse to do a "re-union tour". I wish more artists would do the same.

By: armacy

armacy — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:46:53 -0800

New album coming out without a manager? That explains his latest PR stunt!

By: soundofsuburbia

soundofsuburbia — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:46:56 -0800

beaucoupkevin: I'm with you. My heart sank when I heard this recent reunion rumor and soared when Johnny Marr's people denied it.

By: Max Power

Max Power — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:49:52 -0800

I support this no reunion. And advocate for a nice quiet retirement for Morrissey. Quiet being the key word.

By: loquat

loquat — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:51:15 -0800

Please please please let me get what I want.. Lord knows it would be the first time. If I can't have The Smiths, at least I'll get to see Morrissey when he comes to Portland in November. *sigh*

By: rocket88

rocket88 — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:54:41 -0800

If they were truly a great band then one of them would be dead by now.

By: MCMikeNamara

MCMikeNamara — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:59:00 -0800

This is better news than the obit thread I thought it was for a second. (The part of me who loves Metafilter would be against that reality, but a large other part of me would have loved that sort of really shit-stirring way to make such an announcement.)

By: Gary

Gary — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:14:31 -0800

This is better news than the obit thread I thought it was for a second. How would it be an obit thread? Death didn't stop The Beatles from releasing Free as a Bird. If anything it would make a reunion a lot more possible assuming Hologram Morrissey will go along with it.

By: Navelgazer

Navelgazer — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:19:12 -0800

This is better news than the obit thread I thought it was for a second. Seconded.

By: MoonOrb

MoonOrb — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:20:13 -0800

The Smiths are never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever going to reunite Oh, of course they won't-not until the next time.

By: zzazazz

zzazazz — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:22:07 -0800

Morrissey is enigmatic?

By: howfar

howfar — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:31:23 -0800

Its impressive to see that Morrissey is one of the few artists to have enough conviction to just say NO to the lure of money over self respect and refuse to do a "re-union tour". When you say "self respect" I presume you mean spite, bitterness and self-serving rage?

By: Kitty Stardust

Kitty Stardust — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:34:52 -0800

New album coming out without a manager? That explains his latest PR stunt! But she was old and she would've died anyway. Even though I think Marr and Morrissey made some kind of special super-mopey-yet-wrapped-in-pop alchemy together, I don't want the Smiths to reunite either. I like that Moz hangs on to his bitterness.

By: googly

googly — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:40:29 -0800

The Smiths are never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever going to reunite - ever. That joke isn't funny anymore.

By: schoolgirl report

schoolgirl report — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:41:06 -0800

So you're saying there's a chance?

By: jetsetsc

jetsetsc — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:42:45 -0800

Hologram Morrissey. I am definitely stealing that for something.

By: yerfatma

yerfatma — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:44:09 -0800

A Rush and a Push and . . . we're near the front of the crowd at a Rush concert, I suppose.

By: a shrill fucking shitstripe

a shrill fucking shitstripe — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:46:04 -0800

This charming man! Why count the bonuses and the financing when there isn't any room on the passengers seat! OH AH!

By: mrgrimm

mrgrimm — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:53:51 -0800

Goddammit, googly.

By: A dead Quaker

A dead Quaker — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:55:51 -0800

This is tangential, but I love the way the Guardian football live blog worked a Smiths reference in during a Euro match last summer: Glenn Whelan sparks an Italy break with a pass on halfway so miserable it spends all its time in its room listening to the Smiths.

By: grippycat

grippycat — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:57:17 -0800

John Cho meets Morrissey at a an-ages pool hall.

By: nadawi

nadawi — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 13:48:00 -0800

morrissey is about to start a tour? that totally explains the snippets of grump i've seen flittering across the web the last couple days. he hates contemporary music! he doesn't like the music big fans of his have made! he thinks prince harry is a dolt! he is unloved by record companies! he hates facebook! he thinks russell brand should do shakespeare!

By: SansPoint

SansPoint — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 13:51:06 -0800

I'm okay with this.

By: burnmp3s

burnmp3s — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 13:57:49 -0800

Hologram Morrissey. I am definitely stealing that for something. I would advise against plagiarizing or taking on loan, because someone somewhere could be a mefite who might trip you up and laugh when you fall.

By: wildcrdj

wildcrdj — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:03:38 -0800

even if a vegetarian Coachella happens. Makes sense this was offered. Don't know if anyone else here saw Morrissey at Coachella in 2009, but he was pretty upset at the vast amount of BBQ smoke that drifted across the main stage area. Frankly, it was pretty obnoxious even just from a smoke perspective, it wasn't just some subtle aroma. Combine that with the meat smell that you couldn't get away from and Morrissey's penchant for having outbursts on stage, and it nearly had him walk off early (thankfully he did stay after complaining about it for a while). [I was a vegetarian at the time, and while it didn't bother me as much as him, I did think it wasn't an unreasonable complaint. Especially since it was him followed by Paul McCartney, so it was kind of Vegetarian/Animal Activist night on the main stage]

By: Kitty Stardust

Kitty Stardust — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:07:25 -0800

Morrissey likes Russell Brand? I feel a slash coming on!

By: mrgrimm

mrgrimm — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:46:53 -0800

Morrissey likes most cute guys, no? (Not that that explains his penchant for Brand ... bad-dum-pum.)

By: The World Famous

The World Famous — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:48:52 -0800

Morrissey likes Russell Brand? I feel a slash coming on! I never would have guessed in a million years that a thread about Morrissey and Johnny Marr would be the place where I'd post this. But you said you feel a slash coming on, so I have no choice. My apologies to Messrs. Morrissey and Marr.

By: mrgrimm

mrgrimm — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:56:48 -0800

I'm okay with this. Me too. I had a chance, at 14, to go see the Smiths in Cleveland. My mom wouldn't let us go. (Still makes me go ARGH.) The Smiths played their last show ever four months later, then M. Marr up and ruined everything another few months later. "In a wide-ranging interview with RollingStone.com, the guitarist said, 'I was the lookout saying, "Rocks ahead! Rocks ahead!" I had the foresight to see disaster looming – both for the individuals, personally, and the band, professionally. I had a lot of insight and wisdom for a 23-year-old." Oh yes, John. Cuz everyone in the band's done so much better since. Anyway, no one else should ever get to see them again either. >:p

By: borges

borges — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:56:57 -0800

The More You Ignore Me The Closer I Get!

By: The World Famous

The World Famous — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 15:09:44 -0800

"In a wide-ranging interview with RollingStone.com, the guitarist said, 'I was the lookout saying, "Rocks ahead! Rocks ahead!" I had the foresight to see disaster looming – both for the individuals, personally, and the band, professionally. I had a lot of insight and wisdom for a 23-year-old." Oh yes, John. Cuz everyone in the band's done so much better since. I used to look at Mick Taylor's decision to leave the Rolling Stones and think he was either fired for something kept totally quiet or he was a bloody fool (please read that last bit as Michael Caine). But my outlook on that has changed over the years, particularly after reading Keith Richards' Life. Taylor's career didn't go where he seemed to have planned, and he's nowhere near as rich and famous as the rest of the band or as Ron Wood. But he had the foresight to see disaster looming and he got off the ship just in the nick of time, it would seem. Not wanting to be a member of the Rolling Stones in the 1970s and 80s is an extraordinarily reasonable position. Talk about leaving on a high note - play the guitar solos on Honky Tonk Woman and Gimme Shelter, play lead guitar on Sticky Fingers and Exile on Main Street, go on tour, then quit the band? That's a hell of high note right there. So, back to Johnny Marr breaking up The Smiths: The Queen Is Dead was his Sticky Fingers, Strangeways Here We Come was his Exile, and then he's out of there before things could go well and truly sideways. That's a hell of a high note. And then he goes on to work with The The, Billy Bragg, Talking Heads, Neil Finn, Robyn Hitchcock, Modest Mouse, etc.? I'll agree that he hasn't done better than The Smiths. But neither he nor Morrissey has ended up face down in a ditch or choking to death on their own vomit. And Morrissey's solo work has had high points that, though not as lofty as the best moments of The Smiths, are better than most successful singer/songwriters will ever have. Not many people have a back catalog as rich as Morrissey's, followed by a solo career with as many good moments as his.

By: humanfont

humanfont — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 15:56:51 -0800

Remember the era Crag Kilborn hosted the Daily Show and Janeane Garofalo came on and Craig decided he wanted to woo her so he put an old cassette from The Smiths to give her entrance music. Really in the only one? Do you at least remember Craig Kilborn?

By: 4ster

4ster — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 16:03:06 -0800

I just love The Smiths.

By: wilful

wilful — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 17:02:56 -0800

Going to see Morrissey this december, and he will play a lot of Smiths songs. I'd prefer a gig with some Morrissey songs as well, his best is better than the Smiths average. While it'd be very nice to have the guitar played by Johnny Marr, Boz Boorer actually does know how to play, and given the limitations of live performances there will be absolutely no difference to anyone's ear.

By: Decani

Decani — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 17:19:46 -0800

Well, thank Christ for that.

By: space_cookie

space_cookie — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 17:28:32 -0800

Guess I can put the Manic Panic away now.

By: wherever, whatever

wherever, whatever — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 17:33:56 -0800

The Smiths are never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever going to reunite - ever. Maybe in the next world.

By: juiceCake

juiceCake — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 17:40:51 -0800

Its impressive to see that Morrissey is one of the few artists to have enough conviction to just say NO to the lure of money over self respect and refuse to do a "re-union tour". Has he had the conviction to pay Mike Joyce yet?

By: zarq

zarq — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 17:49:06 -0800

I got dragged to a Morrissey concert at Jones Beach in the early 90's. Didn't want to go, but my best friend offered me a free ticket. Figured it would be worth it if I could hear November Spawned a Monster. He got through three or four songs before a female fan leaped up on stage and groped his crotch so hard he fell to the ground writhing and clutching himself. The backup singers finished the verse. The song ended abruptly. He got to his feet, staggered off stage and that was that. The concert had lasted less than half an hour. And the Monster never spawned. People were *furious.* They booed and shouted. Can't blame 'em, really.

By: nadawi

nadawi — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 18:03:35 -0800

surely they were booing and shouting at the assaulting fan or the security? because, man, i don't even have family jewels, but i'd be unlikely to reemerge. it's not like he puts on a punk show.

By: zarq

zarq — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 18:06:47 -0800

surely they were booing and shouting at the assaulting fan or the security? You'd think, but it only began in earnest when they announced the show was cancelled.

By: ovvl

ovvl — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 20:23:58 -0800

I've seen this before in other people's lives, and now it's happening in mine. (I actually say this to myself almost every day).

By: Mezentian

Mezentian — Wed, 03 Oct 2012 03:07:22 -0800

I'm glad to see I'm not the only person Moz has promised a tour and not delivered on. I do enjoy his never stuff (the mid-90s was iffy), but I woyuld happily not see a Smiths reunion. That would just be sad.Smiths sad.

By: Legomancer

Legomancer — Wed, 03 Oct 2012 05:32:55 -0800

Good. I don't need to see the bands of my youth strut and grunt and wheeze trying to make me feel 21 again. The Smiths were a great band, and they have a great catalog of music that is available on demand. Do we really need them to grind out "Ask" one more time or squat out an album of half-baked new songs under duress? It's okay for things to end.

By: msalt

msalt — Wed, 03 Oct 2012 06:45:11 -0800

I thought by now Morrissey would have retired from music and would be writing bloody awful poetry.

By: jonp72

jonp72 — Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:08:06 -0800

Why why why can't you let me get what I want?

By: howfar

howfar — Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:24:24 -0800

I thought by now Morrissey would have retired from music and would be writing bloody awful poetry. But...the Smiths already split up. (I keeed!Kinda)

By: dragonplayer

dragonplayer — Wed, 03 Oct 2012 22:55:48 -0800

Thanks for telling us he'd be on Fallon's show. It was good to see him, it's been a long time.

By: juiceCake

juiceCake — Tue, 09 Oct 2012 21:06:53 -0800

Wow. Just saw him on Colbert. Hadn't seen him in years. Marr has aged much better and I can see him doing justice to playing Smith's songs but Morrisey can barely sing anymore. The footage of Marr playing and singing Smiths songs isn't painfully horrible as it is with Morrisey.

By: Mezentian

Mezentian — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 05:32:01 -0800

MOZ? ON COLBERT? I WOULD WATCH THAT!

By: Gary

Gary — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:01:19 -0800

Morrissey reaction gifs to Colbert's questions.

By: Mezentian

Mezentian — Thu, 11 Oct 2012 04:33:49 -0800

FOUL! The lamb in question was not "a total asshole" but "a total fucking asshole". Buzzfeed lets down the fourth estate!