Comments on: 60 school kids from the 70s singing Bowie's Space Oddity.

60 school kids from the 70s singing Bowie's Space Oddity.

mmarcos — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 09:01:42 -0800

60 school kids from the 70s singing Bowie's Space Oddity. An incredible recording. A 60 student chorus of western Canadian rural school children belting out, among other things, Good Vibrations, Desperado, and, the cream of the crop, I think, Klaatu's Calling Occupants of Interplanetary Craft. mp3 samples on the page. It is amazing. Read David Bowie's quip. (And the quip from the American Orff-Schulwerk Association is classic.)

By: mmarcos

mmarcos — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 09:03:13 -0800

The record label, Basta, is from the Netherlands. I know them from the excellent Raymond Scott material they publish.

By: Hildago

Hildago — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 09:16:54 -0800

"The backing arrangement is astounding. Coupled with the earnest if lugubrious vocal performance you have a piece of art that I couldn't have conceived of, even with half of Colombia's finest export products in me." That's.. that's coffee, right? (blinks innocently) Anyway, it's kind of corny, but those songs were pretty good. I wish my music teacher had done that sort of thing with us, instead of just standing there sweating. If he had, there's no limit to what I might have accomplished. Alas!

By: eckeric

eckeric — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 09:19:09 -0800

They had the teacher and the woman who sang "Desperado" on one of the NPR shows recently. The woman seemed a little bitter and sad. The music was much more interesting than I ever would have expected.

By: alumshubby

alumshubby — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 09:25:11 -0800

This really took back. We had a young, "cool" music teacher in seventh grade who could play these amazing accompaniments to pop tunes, and every Friday we'd belt out "If" by Bread and "Sweet Caroline" by Neil Diamond while she'd beat the tar out of those keys. I wonder if kids still get to sing just for the joy of it in school.

By: mccreath

mccreath — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 09:25:32 -0800

And that rendition of "Desperado" (sung by a 12ish year old girl) was eerie. Or beautiful. Or something. It made me pay attention to the song, which I haven't done in, well, when was it released?

By: alumshubby

alumshubby — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 09:28:27 -0800

Let's have a show of hands: How many of you like the kids singing "Space Oddity" even better than the Thin White Duke?

By: alumshubby

alumshubby — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 09:35:38 -0800

I just realized why I liked the kids' rendition better: Sixty voices singing in unison "It's time to leave the capsule if you dare."

By: Dagobert

Dagobert — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 09:41:26 -0800

Let's have a show of hands: How many of you like the kids singing "Space Oddity" even better than the Thin White Duke? That smacks of heresy! The renditions are sweet, with a sound of innocence that makes me a bit sad when I realize that I have lost mine. Nicely done and nice to see there are (or were) some teachers that truly love their job.

By: MegoSteve

MegoSteve — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 09:45:43 -0800

RealAudio version of Space Oddity in its entirety

By: BT

BT — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 09:56:33 -0800

My fave is "Band on the Run." The silliness of the song is perfectly matched with the kids' voices. Although "Rhiannon" is pretty haunting, too. I first heard these on the radio: the original vinyl recordings were unearthed by the amazing Irwin Chusid of Incorrect Music, one my favorite programs from New Jersey's WFMU. (Irwin masterminded the creation of the CD: you can get more details on this here and here.) The shows are archived, and you can catch the live versions on Wednesdays via WFMU's various streams.

By: zoopraxiscope

zoopraxiscope — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 10:15:56 -0800

that was brilliant, thanks for clueing me in to that. must see if my local weird music shop has the cd. i must hear that "calling occupants of interplanetary craft" version ASAP.

By: cowboy_sally

cowboy_sally — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 10:23:33 -0800

I'll never forget the day I heard the Langley School version of "Space Oddity" on Incorrect Music. I almost fell out of my chair. I sort of pictured the kids as having a Children of the Damned look about them, marching in place to the dirge-like composition...when the whole record came out, I was sort of reassured to see that the kids did not *appear* to be brainwashed, and that many of the other tunes-- Desperado especially--were quite beautiful. O/T personal qualm disclosure: As much as I like outsider music/art, I've never gone to see Wesley Willis or Daniel Johnston or the Shaggs for fear of seeing that others in the audience are really just there to laugh at them (though heck, I saw people at a show making fun of Will Oldham's facial tics, so maybe all performers are free game). Maybe I'm in denial about why I like it. (overheard outside the Outsider Art Show at the Puck Building, 4 years ago: "Have you seen [some showcased outsider artist]?" "Oh, yes! I had dinner with him! He's brilliant! He's retarded!")

By: basilwhite

basilwhite — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 10:31:07 -0800

The little girl singing Desperado moved me to tears. I bought it.

By: LeLiLo

LeLiLo — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 10:53:56 -0800

A bunch of some 50 grownups at London's Royal College of Art, called the Portsmouth Sinfonia, did a similar thing back in the 1970s. Some trained musically, some not. God Only Knows, A Day in the Life, Pinball Wizard, etc. etc. I got sent their first album, Portsmouth Sinfonia Plays the Popular Classics, to review in 1974, but can't remember, all these years later, whether I actually did so or not. Brian Eno was the sound producer.

By: ronv

ronv — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 10:56:09 -0800

agreed. i've never heard "desperado" sound more beautiful.

By: ZachsMind

ZachsMind — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 10:58:50 -0800

I prefer David Bowie's version, and find it amusing that "lugubrious" means ludicrously dismal. His use of such a word in relation to this work is an indication of Bowie's wonderfully dry sense of humor. He was either giving them a backhanded compliment, or a surreptitious insult without conduct unbecoming a gentleman of his position and stature. Being who he is, Bowie can't discredit the work openly without shaming himself. These are kids after all, and it was recorded so long ago. It's clear that David Bowie is fascinated with fan response to his work. He's even used that to his advantage with BowieNet in the past, collaborating with his own fans on various projects. I'm certain that a children's choir doing Space Oddity in the seventies amuses him, and he finds it flattering. From an artistic standpoint this is what art's about - allowing people to express themselves. Usually children's choirs are forced to express their instructor's wishes and not their own. So from an educational standpoint, Bowie can do nothing but support this. However, the results must have given him a chuckle to say the least. They're sincere, sweet and pure, but also cacophonic, emotionally uncertain and downright feral. Like kids around a campfire. This work can't withstand any kind of serious scrutiny. It's fun. That's what music should be. It's not "good" by any stretch of the imagination.

By: remlapm

remlapm — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 11:03:08 -0800

mmarcos, the record label is Bar-none records, a Hoboken label. The guy who runs the label was about bankrupt until he stubled across this. My mom and him are friends ( being that they share office-space). Crazy small world.

By: bunnyfire

bunnyfire — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 11:04:14 -0800

If Bowie had been directing the kids, and they had decent sound backup instead of what they had (lugubrious indeed) It would have been awesome....of course they should have brought the key up a little as the key the song was in was tough for young voices-hence the tendercy at spots to go off key...... when I was in 8th grade a lot of our music class was taken up by singing songs such as "You're So Vain" by Carly Simon......Let's see... that would have been in 1973....

By: davebush

davebush — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 11:10:07 -0800

I got goosebumps when I heard "Venus and Mars." Maybe this is the old guy in me, but...I have a feeling this sort of thing couldn't happen with today's knowing, ironic and cynical youth. Am I wrong?

By: johnmunsch

johnmunsch — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 11:10:48 -0800

I don't come to Metafilter for more conspiracy theories or isn't the war going badly stuff. I come for finds just like this. Very cool link. If there was some way to award "coolness points" to posters you would get some of mine.

By: sixfoot6

sixfoot6 — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 11:14:20 -0800

What makes the rendition of Space Oddity so chillingly beautiful is that 60 innocent voices are singing one of the most "adult" songs ever recorded -- a journey into the true unknown, beyond the normal realm of discovery, aging, and everything we grow to accept about life. It overwhelms me to hear these children singing as if they have internalized all the emotional depth and power of Bowie's lyrics and music.

By: briank

briank — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 11:19:13 -0800

I heard this on NPR's Weekend Edition a few weeks ago, too (though I can't find a link to the story quickly). They interviewed the girl (now a 30-ish woman) who sang the Desperado cut as well as the music teacher who created the albums. She seemed a little unnerved to have attention brought to this now after all these years. In fact, Scott Simon mentioned that some of the people are a bit unhappy about the whole thing. WFMU wasn't mentioned in the NPR piece (they're an independent public radio station, not part of the NPR hegemony), but I knew immediately that this was the work of Irwin.

By: skallas

skallas — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 11:21:04 -0800

It's fun. That's what music should be. It's not "good" by any stretch of the imagination. Agreed, its definitely a novelty and somewhat fun, but its not the great music the quotes surrounding the page suggest it is. They are being quite a bit sanctimonious with the kid stuff. I have a feeling this sort of thing couldn't happen with today's knowing, ironic and cynical youth. Am I wrong? I'm curious what music would be picked when this happens today (it certainly does somewhere). I doubt its suggestive songs from Britney or whatever the newest angst ballad is. I'm not saying that 70s music wasn't all/most marketing and novelty but today its even more so.

By: jga

jga — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 11:26:54 -0800

I always thought the song was about taking heroin (which is why Major Tom shows up as a junkie in "Ashes to Ashes"), which makes this whole undertaking even more curious.

By: CosmicSlop

CosmicSlop — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 11:30:03 -0800

I find the Langley recording charming for what it is. Reminded me of my junior high music teacher around '80-'81 that had us singing Queen's "Bohemian Rhapsody." He really liked the operatic parts that lead up to the rock part. He'd always stop us right as we got up to the lines "so you think you can stone me/and spit in my eye." Thank you Steve Landby, wherever you are.

By: BT

BT — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 11:54:55 -0800

CosmicSlop, you had a way-cool music teacher. For my part, I remember the arrival of new music textbooks in the "general music" class I was in 1979, which had clearly been the product of a generational shift: instead of the American standards and folk chestnuts we'd had before, the book and its accompanying record had trippy arrangement of "Eleanor Rigby," "Age of Aquarius," and "Hurdy-Gurdy Man" that we sang along with. Really quite psychedelic, and while years out of date by the time it got to us, it seemed pretty radical to my preteen ears. I envy the Langley kids: I bet they had a lot of fun.

By: rcade

rcade — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 12:20:03 -0800

The NPR segment on this project is online.

By: alumshubby

alumshubby — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 13:19:03 -0800

BT...sounds like something Silver Burdette might have published. I'm vaguely recalling learning about the Beatles in music class through "Eleanor Rigby" and discussing why the string accompaniment sounded the way it did.

By: mmarcos

mmarcos — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 13:47:04 -0800

remlapm, sorry, you're right. I got the link via the Basta site and did not pay attention. They are distributing in Europe I guess. Thanks for the correction, Bar-none records deserves the credit. rcade, thanks for the link. The girl, now lady, who sang Desperado, did sound bittersweet but greatful. She seemed to be hurt that Langer left the school and she wasn't able to continue with this music. Langer is right about the teacher cliche, but there is truth behind cliches anyway. I remember a pivotal history teacher in 7th grade who introduced us to Alvin Toffler's Future Shock and got us to read and discuss part of the book for a while. He opened my mind and changed my life. They fired him soon afterwards and replaced him with a schmuck.

By: skylar

skylar — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 13:48:13 -0800

It's absolutely beautiful. Thanks for bringing this to our attention - exactly MetaFilter at its best.

By: mmarcos

mmarcos — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 13:58:01 -0800

Now that I'm in corrections mode: Bar-None Records' page on the recording.

By: O9scar

O9scar — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 14:10:12 -0800

Another thanks for sharing. While there is some unintended humor at times, their rendition of "God Only Knows" is just beautiful.

By: kliuless

kliuless — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 14:25:53 -0800

speaking of future shock, have you ever read stand on zanzibar? mind opening and life changing! btw, the girl singing desperado rocks like cat power :)

By: davidmsc

davidmsc — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 14:27:22 -0800

Hidago: "...half of Colombia's finest export products in me." Blink innocently and correctly -- Bowie was one of the original members of the Coffee Achievers way back in 1983! (sorry, couldn't find a link, but it's true - trust me)

By: davidmsc

davidmsc — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 14:54:55 -0800

And if you want to hear the original from Klaatu, here's a link to a free 2-minute download of "Calling Occupants..." Retro-psychedelic-groovalicious!

By: bradlauster

bradlauster — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 14:58:17 -0800

> I'm curious what music would be picked when this happens today skallas, it has happened! In the Bay Area, there is a TV commercial for a product called KidsPop (sorry, I couldn't find a link). I'm sure the kids sing that "You steal my sunshine" song. Chuma Wumba's, "I get knocked down, but I get up again" and that horrible Smash Mouth song, "Hey now, you're an all star, get your game on" come to mind, as does one of Christina Aguilera's tunes. Every time I see it I think, it's just a bunch of kids singing...why wouldn't you just buy the original recordings for your kids to sing along with? Clearly, I'm missing the point.

By: ParisParamus

ParisParamus — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 15:42:28 -0800

Cool link: Thanks! At age nine, Space Oddity was the first record; the first 45rpm I ever bought (1973). But I can't imagine it being part of the Airmont School curriculum. And I can't imagine it being performed by a group of school kids. Let me rephrase that: I find it disturbing that kids (who appear to be in late elementary school?) are singing disturbing music. Then again, if John Zorn thinks it's cool, it probably is. Thanks again.

By: neuroshred

neuroshred — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 16:08:05 -0800

Maybe this is the old guy in me, but...I have a feeling this sort of thing couldn't happen with today's knowing, ironic and cynical youth. Am I wrong? A few weeks ago I was a substitute teacher for a friend's 7th and 8th grade music classes. Playing Peter Gunn and the theme to Raiders of the Lost Ark was a big thrill for them. I think they'd love to play pop songs, and so would their choir counterparts.

By: Zurishaddai

Zurishaddai — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 16:48:58 -0800

I guess the sharp menace of the kids' countdown in "Space Oddity" falls in the "despair" category...

By: rodii

rodii — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 17:57:35 -0800

Read David Bowie's quip. (And the quip from the American Orff-Schulwerk Association is classic.) ("Quip"?)

By: Optamystic

Optamystic — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 17:59:55 -0800

I guess the sharp menace of the kids' countdown in "Space Oddity" falls in the "despair" category... Exactly! When I closed my eyes while playing this song I kept seeing Malachi and company, holding candles and praying to He Who Walks Behind The Rows.

By: mmarcos

mmarcos — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 18:11:45 -0800

Quip. quip (kwp) n. 1.A clever, witty remark often prompted by the occasion. 2.A clever, often sarcastic remark; a gibe. See Synonyms at joke. 3.A petty distinction or objection; a quibble. 4.Something curious or odd. Bowie: witty?, clever?, sarcastic? Association: petty objection!

By: rodii

rodii — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 18:48:21 -0800

(I would say--sorry for saying off-topic--that 3 and 4 are moribund senses, if not entirely dead, in modern English. But thanks for that; I didn't know they had ever even been alive.)

By: y2karl

y2karl — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 18:51:04 -0800

It's absolutely beautiful. Thanks for bringing this to our attention - exactly NPR's Saturday Edition of last weekend at its best.

By: y2karl

y2karl — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 19:17:58 -0800

Oops, make that NPR's Weekend Edition two weekends ago...

By: grabbingsand

grabbingsand — Thu, 08 Nov 2001 22:13:20 -0800

i bought it. it was even a bit of a challenge to find. tower records was sold out. the president was in town today. a presidential motorcade decimates atlanta traffic worse than a ten-car pile-up. listening to this CD made the hour long experience bearable... beautiful.

By: D.C.

D.C. — Fri, 09 Nov 2001 03:12:23 -0800

Interesting. While this recording has its moments, I don't find it nearly as freakishly good as The Shaggs or even Lucia Pamela. Great front page post; I probably would not have heard about this CD elsewhere.

By: Mars Saxman

Mars Saxman — Fri, 09 Nov 2001 08:27:50 -0800

Kids singing are a bit frightening ("We don't need no education... we don't need no thought control...") but when they start singing Space Oddity you have a fairly disturbing audio experience. "Good Vibrations", by comparison, just sounded thin and awkward. There must be something about young voices singing spooky music in a volume close to a shout that makes it worth more than the sound itself. The background music sucked. It would have been better a cappella. -Mars