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Comments on MetaFilter post "...the first decade of the 21st century can be viewed as a singularly male-dominated era in American cinema."Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:01:04 -0800Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:01:04 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60"...the first decade of the 21st century can be viewed as a singularly male-dominated era in American cinema."
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New York Times Magazine "Hollywood Issue": <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/09/magazine/hollywoods-year-of-heroine-worship.html?_r=0&pagewanted=all">Hollywood's Year of Heroine Worship</a>. Accompanied by an online web series of 13 original, short films: <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/12/07/magazine/hollywood-heroines-wide-awake.html">Wide Awake</a>, each starring an actress whose performance helped 'define the year in film.' <br /><br />The shorts were directed by fine-art photographer Tierney Gearon. <a href="http://6thfloor.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/07/hollywood-heroines-behind-the-scenes/">Behind the Scenes</a>. Photo slideshow: <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/12/06/magazine/hollywood-heroines-big.html">Hollywood Heroines</a>.
<a href="http://6thfloor.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/10/behind-the-cover-story-a-o-scott-on-women-girls-and-the-standout-female-performances-of-the-year/">Q&A</a> with A.O. Scott. Mentioned in his article: <a href="http://bechdeltest.com/">The Bechdel Test</a>
Previously on MeFi, <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/121964/Down-with-this-sort-of-thing-Michael-Calleri">Michael Calleri and the Niagara Falls Reporter</a>post:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122726Mon, 10 Dec 2012 08:42:41 -0800zarqmoviesfilmshortfilmsvideoshollywoodportrayalsaoscottwomengenderheroinesculturecelebritiesBy: Egg Shen
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<em>... such manly titles might be balanced, or even upstaged, by Kathryn Bigelow and "Zero Dark Thirty," starring Jessica Chastain as a C.I.A. officer involved in the hunt for Osama bin Laden.</em>
What could be manlier than glorifying torture with the lie that it led to the killing of bin Laden?comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122726-4724945Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:01:04 -0800Egg ShenBy: MuffinMan
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It's a great idea, and I like it for that alone.
But the execution? I dunno. The form factor of very short movies like this is that they tend to be confusing, pretentious and have the aesthetics of perfume commercials or a slightly more creative airline company.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122726-4725029Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:36:49 -0800MuffinManBy: ErikaB
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It's a start in the right direction. But given that the last two movies I watched did not have <i>one single female actor on screen in the whole entire movie</i> I think we still have a way to go.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122726-4725061Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:50:29 -0800ErikaBBy: kmz
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Whoa. Which movies?comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122726-4725100Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:12:11 -0800kmzBy: Egg Shen
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<em>Which movies?</em>
There's <em>Lawrence of Arabia</em>, famously.
There are probably a number of play adapations that would qualify - i.e. <em>Love! Valour! Compassion!</em>
<em>Glengarry Glen Ross</em> is all-male except for one unimportant line of dialogue delivered by a coat check woman in the background.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122726-4725116Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:19:54 -0800Egg ShenBy: Apocryphon
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Oh, come on, those films are hardly contemporary.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122726-4725135Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:29:37 -0800ApocryphonBy: Postroad
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Zero dark thirty, in fact, as has been noted, deals with trying to do something good--getting Osama Bin Laden--by employing questionable means--water boarding, thus showing the moral complexity of the way we live. That notion, and that film, I had read, similar to the film Lincoln, which also dealt with trying to do something good (abolition) by questionable political means.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122726-4725189Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:52:05 -0800PostroadBy: ErikaB
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Not to completely derail the thread, but the two 100% female-free movies I watched were <a href="http://www.indiegamethemovie.com/">Indie Gamer: The Movie</a> (2012) and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare_Exports:_A_Christmas_Tale">Rare Exports: A Christmas Tale</a> (2010).
To bring it back on topic, I have seen several articles recently that basically say "Hunger Games grossed lots of money! Sexism is dead!" Which is as silly as declaring racism dead because Obama.
It's definitely a good start, though. And I am glad that this continues to be an active topic of public discussion, <a href="http://www.seejane.org/research/">because it's the only way that things will ever change.</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122726-4725292Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:37:32 -0800ErikaBBy: Splunge
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Oh, heroin<em><strong>e</strong></em>. Nevermind.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122726-4725389Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:39:13 -0800SplungeBy: homunculus
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<i>What could be manlier than glorifying torture with the lie that it led to the killing of bin Laden?</i>
<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/10/zero-dark-thirty-torture-awards">Zero Dark Thirty: new torture-glorifying film wins raves. Can a movie that relies on fabrications to generate support for war crimes still be considered great?</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122726-4725436Mon, 10 Dec 2012 13:15:47 -0800homunculusBy: JimBennett
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ErikaB, I believe Edmund McMillen's wife Danielle is present in several scenes of Indie <strong>Game:</strong> The Movie, and is a major force in his artistic life.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122726-4725474Mon, 10 Dec 2012 13:53:15 -0800JimBennettBy: P.o.B.
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I don't think films in general are anywhere near depicting fairness to gender equality, but I don't think a documentary and a Finnish film are exactly representative of "Hollywood".comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122726-4725487Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:03:28 -0800P.o.B.By: Potomac Avenue
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Nearly didn't see that Lena Dunham reference coming but then I did.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122726-4725514Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:26:35 -0800Potomac AvenueBy: zarq
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Greenwald: <em>But what makes all of this so remarkable is that the film's glorifying claims about torture are demonstrably, factually false. That waterboarding and other torture techniques were effective in finding bin Laden is a fabrication.</em>
As usual, Greenwald doesn't point out anything that is "demonstrably, factually false" except to relate anecdotes by people who are not exactly unbiased witnesses. Feinstein. Panetta. Levin. All Democrats who gain politically by saying torture can't be justified. (I happen to agree that it can't, but as sources they're all pretty partisan.)
Has some actual evidence presented itself from an unbiased source who does not have something to gain politically from his or her testimony?comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122726-4725529Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:42:24 -0800zarqBy: P.o.B.
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I haven't seen Zero Dark Thirty, but <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unthinkable">Unthinkable</a> gives an interesting perspective on torture and as a really solid film deserved more than a direct to video release.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122726-4725610Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:52:29 -0800P.o.B.By: surplus
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A key would have been nice, so I'd know which film the actress was in.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122726-4727211Tue, 11 Dec 2012 15:22:46 -0800surplus
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