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Comments on MetaFilter post The secret sex of cheeseThu, 13 Dec 2012 09:15:33 -0800Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:15:33 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60The secret sex of cheese
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The <a href="http://nittygrittyscience.com/2012/12/04/the-secret-sex-of-cheese/">hard-core kinky action</a> inside your slice of Camembert.post:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:11:20 -0800ChrysostomcheesemoldfungisexualreproductionBy: sweetkid
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oh ewwww. Ew. Oh the idea of this is so gross.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730811Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:15:33 -0800sweetkidBy: louche mustachio
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730813
Cheesemaking is truly one of the Dark Arts.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730813Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:16:45 -0800louche mustachioBy: cheap paper
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730817
While this is really interesting in a food production sciences way, there is nothing one can say that will turn me away from stinky cheeses. No Thing.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730817Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:17:45 -0800cheap paperBy: shakespeherian
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730818
Yum.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730818Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:18:03 -0800shakespeherianBy: Egg Shen
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730820
Cheese sex. That is happening.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730820Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:18:51 -0800Egg ShenBy: gauche
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730821
Yeah, this doesn't gross me out one bit. I will take all of the stinky cheese you don't want, people who don't want delicious stinky cheese.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730821Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:19:47 -0800gaucheBy: theodolite
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730822
Mold sex is all well and good but I prefer my cheese alive and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casu_marzu">squirming</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730822Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:20:23 -0800theodoliteBy: shakespeherian
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730824
Also that hamburger you're eating? The cow's parents had sex.
SEX IS GROSScomment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730824Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:21:11 -0800shakespeherianBy: louche mustachio
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730827
This information could come in quite handy the next time you wish to ensure that you get all the cheese.
Try to throw in something like "But the sex is what makes it tasty!"comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730827Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:21:32 -0800louche mustachioBy: griphus
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730829
Wow, beat me to the punch theodolite.
Is there a (purposefully) moldy cheese that is aged long enough to have negligible amounts of lactose?comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730829Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:22:21 -0800griphusBy: louche mustachio
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730830
<i> I will take all of the stinky cheese you don't want, people who don't want delicious stinky cheese.</i>
I WILL FIGHT YOU
FOR THE CHEESEcomment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730830Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:22:52 -0800louche mustachioBy: marienbad
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730832
"<i>Also that hamburger you're eating? The cow's parents had sex.</i>"
posted by shakespeherian
Yeah, but not <i>in</i> the hamburger.
Only the French could make a sexy cheese.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730832Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:25:03 -0800marienbadBy: Tell Me No Lies
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730847
Eating something that's having sex sounds delightfully twisted and erotic.
Eating Bleu Cheese continues to sound disgusting.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730847Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:28:18 -0800Tell Me No LiesBy: griphus
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730850
Remember: when you're eating that hamburger, you're eating every hamburger that came from every cow that cow's parents had sex with.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730850Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:29:04 -0800griphusBy: gauche
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730851
<em>Is there a (purposefully) moldy cheese that is aged long enough to have negligible amounts of lactose?</em>
I don't know of any (with my former cheesemonger hat on) and am doubtful for the following reasons: aging the cheese until the lactose has converted into lactase changes the environment in which the mold is to grow. Specifically, it makes it less wet and more acidic. The blue mold seems to like wetness, in particular.
As well, contact time is an important consideration: as the mold gets to the end of its life cycle it starts to add some off flavors to the cheese. When I sold cheese in London, the corners of the big wheels of Montgomery's cheddar would sometimes have a streak or two of blue-green mold in them, and those corners were typically over-ammoniated in an unpleasant way.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730851Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:29:12 -0800gaucheBy: Egg Shen
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730862
<em>cheesemonger</em>
What is the verb form of that? "To cheesemong"?comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730862Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:32:13 -0800Egg ShenBy: shakespeherian
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730863
slutty cowscomment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730863Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:32:20 -0800shakespeherianBy: Jehan
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730866
<blockquote>It's a huge industry; as pointed out by the authors of this study, France alone produces 56,865 tons of blue cheese every year.</blockquote>
"Blue cheese." Must ask for that next time.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730866Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:33:39 -0800JehanBy: elizardbits
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730868
note to self: never eat hamburgers at shakes' house or griphus' house.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730868Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:34:26 -0800elizardbitsBy: sexyrobot
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730869
at first i thought that said "Cuisinart" and I was like 'damn, that IS kinky'comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730869Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:34:40 -0800sexyrobotBy: George_Spiggott
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730875
Not sure I understand the wording of this post. Camembert isn't remotely in the category of cheeses being discussed: it's not a bleu cheese and is not inoculated with mold.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730875Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:37:45 -0800George_SpiggottBy: gauche
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730881
<em>What is the verb form of that? "To cheesemong"?</em>
Among co-workers, I'd say things like "time to mong that cheese".
But based on <a href="http://www.thefreedictionary.com/monger">this</a> I think the verb would be "to monger." I monger; you monger; he/she/it mongers &c. And that the noun contains the subject of the verb, such that you don't "cheesemonger" but you "monger some/the cheese".
I would also accept "sling".comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730881Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:40:19 -0800gaucheBy: uncleozzy
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730882
I don't eat Roquefort; mold fuck in it.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730882Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:41:05 -0800uncleozzyBy: Navelgazer
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730883
Also, who slices Camembert? Doesn't everyone spread it or is that just me?comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730883Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:41:11 -0800NavelgazerBy: zamboni
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730884
<i>What is the verb form of that? "To cheesemong"?</i>
It's already a verb. monger, mongering, mongered.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730884Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:43:13 -0800zamboniBy: louche mustachio
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730885
<i>Not sure I understand the wording of this post. Camembert isn't remotely in the category of cheeses being discussed: it's not a bleu cheese and is not inoculated with mold.</i>
Well now you have blown it. Now everyone is going to eat up all the Camembert.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730885Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:43:26 -0800louche mustachioBy: Chrysostom
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730888
<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730875">George_Spiggott</a>: "<i>Not sure I understand the wording of this post. Camembert isn't remotely in the category of cheeses being discussed: it's not a bleu cheese and is not inoculated with mold.</i>"
"The surface of each cheese is then sprayed with an aqueous suspension of the mould <em>Penicillium camemberti</em> and the cheeses are left to ripen for at least three weeks." saith Wikipedia.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730888Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:46:09 -0800ChrysostomBy: Alvy Ampersand
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730890
<em>You need an individual with mating type 1 to meet up with another individual of mating type 2 in order to induce sex. And guess what? In some of the cheeses they investigated, molds of both mating types were present. In the same cheese.</em>
Aw, I was hoping for a fromage à trois. I bet that mold is just doing it missionary.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730890Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:46:16 -0800Alvy AmpersandBy: solotoro
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There used to be a restaurant here that did fried camembert. ohmygodsogoodcomment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730893Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:46:32 -0800solotoroBy: Mayor West
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730902
Step 1: cut a hole in the cheese.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730902Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:49:51 -0800Mayor WestBy: Navelgazer
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730930
Another way to look at this is that, from the mold's perspective, my mouth is the killer in a teen slasher movie.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730930Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:59:04 -0800NavelgazerBy: yoink
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730931
From TFA: "So, bottom line, I don't know if there is sex going on in the cheese you eat."
We may be ejaculating over this finding prematurely.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730931Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:59:10 -0800yoinkBy: orme
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730938
Pokefort
Gorgonzhola
Cumembert
Sinburgercomment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730938Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:01:56 -0800ormeBy: Mister_A
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730954
Nice try, cheese, but you don't compare to tiny spiders that live on my face and have sex and eat <em>me</em>!comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730954Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:10:28 -0800Mister_ABy: argonauta
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730957
Cheap, fast, Amurican-style, sex-on-a-cracker hors d'oeuvre: Buy a thingie of Pillsbury Crescent Roll dough. Pop it open satisfyingly, unroll dough onto a piece of waxed paper, and smoosh closed the perforations. Place mini-wheel of Camembert in center and wrap it up like a present in the dough. Bake until browned outside and glooshy inside. Serve with fig jam if you're all fancy-like. Bask in praise.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730957Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:11:17 -0800argonautaBy: It's Raining Florence Henderson
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730963
Hmm. We make our sex-on-a-cracker hors d'oeuvres differently, argonauta.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730963Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:14:28 -0800It's Raining Florence HendersonBy: EmpressCallipygos
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730995
<em>at first i thought that said "Cuisinart" and I was like 'damn, that IS kinky'
posted by <strong>sexyrobot</strong></em>
....Eponysterical!comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730995Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:37:35 -0800EmpressCallipygosBy: iamkimiam
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4730996
These are two of my favorite things!comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4730996Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:37:51 -0800iamkimiamBy: empatterson
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4731014
Finally a better answer to "why don't you like the cheese?" than a shrug.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4731014Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:46:53 -0800empattersonBy: Decani
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4731024
<em>Yeah, this doesn't gross me out one bit. I will take all of the stinky cheese you don't want, people who don't want delicious stinky cheese.
posted by gauche at 5:19 PM on December 13</em>
Not if I get to it first, you won't.
All the finest foods taste of corruption and sin. All of them.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4731024Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:53:42 -0800DecaniBy: Mister_A
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4731032
Even pizza?comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4731032Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:56:03 -0800Mister_ABy: shakespeherian
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4731043
Look who hasn't had sex surrounded by pizza, is my question.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4731043Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:58:59 -0800shakespeherianBy: Mister_A
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4731048
Pizzic sex > Tantric sex 'cause pizza.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4731048Thu, 13 Dec 2012 11:02:06 -0800Mister_ABy: The Sprout Queen
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4731067
I lovelovelove fermentation. If I had my way I'd only consume fermented foods. Beer, cheese (more stinky, please), bread, tempeh. Bring it on!comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4731067Thu, 13 Dec 2012 11:12:12 -0800The Sprout QueenBy: East Manitoba Regional Junior Kabaddi Champion '94
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4731090
Ctrl-F'd cum, not disappointedcomment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4731090Thu, 13 Dec 2012 11:25:54 -0800East Manitoba Regional Junior Kabaddi Champion '94By: The Whelk
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4731112
Monger is an interesting word. It means :
<em>A dealer in a specific commodity, normally used in combination.
[Middle English mongere, from Old English mangere, from Latin mang, dealer in slaves, probably of Greek origin.] </em>
Specifically meaning they did not produce or capture the object themselves, it designates a middleman. I think that's neat.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4731112Thu, 13 Dec 2012 11:33:42 -0800The WhelkBy: ninjew
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4731137
<em>Are you grossed out by blue cheese? </em>
FUCK(ing) BLUE CHEESEcomment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4731137Thu, 13 Dec 2012 11:42:34 -0800ninjewBy: gauche
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4731158
<em>Specifically meaning they did not produce or capture the object themselves, it designates a middleman. I think that's neat.</em>
Or that they are not going to fight in the war themselves.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4731158Thu, 13 Dec 2012 11:49:17 -0800gaucheBy: The Whelk
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4731212
exactly! It's a fun word!comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4731212Thu, 13 Dec 2012 12:16:57 -0800The WhelkBy: Decani
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4731221
<em>Even pizza?
posted by Mister_A at 6:56 PM on December 13</em>
With the toppings I like on my pizza, hell yes.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4731221Thu, 13 Dec 2012 12:20:47 -0800DecaniBy: griphus
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4731332
I once had caviar on a fancy pizza.
It was pretty good.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4731332Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:07:47 -0800griphusBy: shakespeherian
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4731352
Commie.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4731352Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:15:41 -0800shakespeherianBy: subject_verb_remainder
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4731355
I will tolerate no slut-shaming around my blue cheese.
Related: <a href="http://biology.clc.uc.edu/fankhauser/Cheese/Blue_Cheese/Blue_Cheese.htm">How to host your own blue cheese orgy</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4731355Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:16:54 -0800subject_verb_remainderBy: elgilito
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4731439
<em>The surface of each cheese is then sprayed with an aqueous suspension of the mould </em>Penicillium camemberti<em> and the cheeses are left to ripen for at least three weeks</em>
This is actually beautiful to see. The mould grows on the cheese until it covers it like a soft, thick coat of white fur. <a href="http://www.fromage-normandie.com/userfiles/1806/Image/camembert/cam-fin-affinage.jpg">Young camemberts look like this</a>. After a while the mould shrivels, turning into the yummy rind we all love. I'm sure camembert moulds don't have filthy sex though, they're too virginal and pure for that.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4731439Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:50:42 -0800elgilitoBy: the man of twists and turns
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4731446
<a href="http://arstechnica.com/science/2012/12/cheesemaking-dates-back-nearly-7000-years/">Cheesemaking dates back nearly 7,000 years</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4731446Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:54:14 -0800the man of twists and turnsBy: deborah
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4731796
I can't wait to tell the next person I see eating blue cheese, etc. that the <em><strong>fungus</strong></em> is having <em><strong>sex</strong></em> right then and there. <small>/my laugh is an evil laugh</small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4731796Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:28:07 -0800deborahBy: The Whelk
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4731822
I put the fungus sex in my mouth and I lick it.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4731822Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:47:33 -0800The WhelkBy: lumpenprole
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4732065
<i>It's already a verb. monger, mongering, mongered.</i>
Yes. My wife the cheesemonger participated in a cheesemonger competition in New York this year. People were mongering up a storm.
Also, sex cheese is the best cheese!comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4732065Thu, 13 Dec 2012 23:11:40 -0800lumpenproleBy: maryr
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4732117
FFS, this is attempt 4 at typing this.
Any , shortest possible version: Lact<b>ose</b> = sugar in milk made of glucose and galactose
Lact<b>ase</b> = enzyme that processes lactose to simpler sugars
Sweet dairy gods, please let this post this time.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4732117Fri, 14 Dec 2012 01:13:40 -0800maryrBy: Decani
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4732121
<em>I can't wait to tell the next person I see eating blue cheese, etc. that the fungus is having sex right then and there. /my laugh is an evil laugh
posted by deborah at 1:28 AM on December 14</em>
To which I would leeringly reply, "That must be why it tastes like an <em>orgy in my mouth.</em> MMMMM."comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4732121Fri, 14 Dec 2012 01:39:41 -0800DecaniBy: asok
http://www.metafilter.com/122855/The-secret-sex-of-cheese#4732196
I have been eating a very nice Roquefort this week. It's slippery, soft and pretty much <a title="A song about cheese" href="http://biscuitbadger.bandcamp.com/track/cheese">sex</a> already, without the knowledge that the mold might be sexing.
Somebody left the pumpkin slices in the oven for 3 hours, rather than take them out after 40 minutes, so they were almost caramelised and very sweet and dense. Combined with a caramelised red onion and some leek and cavolo nero they made a pretty nice pasta accompaniment. The cooked penne were combined with a very generous amount of Roquefort (which I had attempted to chop up), copious black pepper and a bit of olive oil and stirred around for 30 seconds until covered in the liquified cheese, at which point the rest of the ingredients were added. Served up and NOM NOM NOM.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.122855-4732196Fri, 14 Dec 2012 05:45:59 -0800asok
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