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<em>"To the world of today the men of medieval Christendom already seem remote and unfamiliar. Their names and deeds are recorded in our history-books, their monuments still adorn our cities, but our kinship with them is a thing unreal, which costs an effort of imagination. How much more must this apply to the great Islamic civilization, that stood over against medieval Europe, menacing its existence and yet linked to it by a hundred ties that even war and fear could not sever. Its monuments too abide, for those who may have the fortunate to visit them, but its men and manners are to most of us utterly unknown, or dimly conceived in the romantic image of the Arabian Nights. Even for the specialist it is difficult to reconstruct their lives and see them as they were. Histories and biographies there are in quantity, but the historians for all their picturesque details, seldom show the ability to select the essential and to give their figures that touch of the intimate which makes them live again for the reader. It is in this faculty that Ibn Battuta excels."</em>
<a href="http://www.silk-road.com/artl/ibn_battuta.shtml">Thus begins the book, "Ibn Battuta, Travels in Asia and Africa 1325-1354" published by Routledge and Kegan Paul</a>. Step<a href="http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/1354-ibnbattuta.asp"> into the world</a> of "<a href="http://www.ibnibnbattuta.com/p/who-was-ibn-battuta.html">the first tourist</a>" who made his mark as <a href="http://www.ucalgary.ca/applied_history/tutor/oldwrld/diplomats/battuta.html">the world's greatest traveler</a> before the age of steam. <br /><br /><em>Abu Abdullah Muhammad Ibn Battuta, was a Moroccan Muslim scholar and traveler. He is known for his traveling and going on excursions called <a href="http://www.saudiaramcoworld.com/issue/200004/the.longest.hajj.the.journeys.of.ibn.battuta-editor.s.note.htm">the Rihla</a>. His journeys lasted for a period of almost thirty years. This covered <a href="http://ibnbattuta.berkeley.edu/11andalusia.html">nearly</a> the whole of the known Islamic world and beyond, <a href="http://score.rims.k12.ca.us/activity/a_journey_battuta/">extending</a> from North Africa, West Africa, Southern Europe and Eastern Europe in the West, to the Middle East, Indian subcontinent, Central Asia, Southeast Asia and China in the East, a distance readily surpassing that of his predecessors. After his travel he returned to Morocco and gave his account of the experience to Ibn Juzay.</em><a href="http://www.famousscientists.org/ibn-battuta/"> Via</a>
A <a href="http://www.travel-studies.com/sites/default/files/images/Ibn%20Battuta%20Map.jpg">map</a> of his<a href="http://media.maps101.com/SUB/GITN/ARCHIVES/PDF/534_082500ibnbw.pdf"> decades of</a> wandering.
<a href="http://www.ibnbattutacentre.org/?c=analogues/sites">Inspiring</a> an <a href="http://www.ibnbattuta.tv/trailer_Main.html">animated</a> series, <a href="http://www.unearthedgame.com/">computer game</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Battuta">books</a> and<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WvX8MICPfo"> documentaries</a>* galore including an <a href="http://www.silkroadgourmet.com/ibn-battuta-in-imax/">IMAX </a>, he lived through<a href="http://www.silkroadgourmet.com/a-silent-passage-the-wandering-life/"> 3 epidemics of plague</a>, in his <a href="http://mongolschinaandthesilkroad.blogspot.sg/2010/04/odyssey-of-ibn-battuta-uncommon-tales.html">search for adventure</a>. Trained judge (qadi), scholar, and observer, he's been called a true Renaissance man, <a href="http://people.umass.edu/mpage/Travelers%20Accounts.Legates%20and%20Stout.pdf"> surpassing his contemporary</a>, that <a href="http://www.saudiaramcoworld.com/issue/196107/ibn.battuta.traveler.from.tangier.htm">other, more</a> famous traveler <a href="http://www.geog.ucsb.edu/~kclarke/Geography126/Lecture05.pdf">Marco Polo</a>.
<em>Battuta crossed over 40 modern countries and covered over 70,000 miles. He became one of the greatest travelers the world has ever seen. <a href="http://cw.routledge.com/textbooks/9780415485432/18.asp">He left behind</a> a travelogue of his life's journeys<a href="http://neolography.com/courses/HIST215/ibnBatutta.html"> filled with details</a> on the <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/books/first/r/rodenbeck-cairo.html">places</a>, people and politics of medieval Eurasia and North Africa.
His adventures reveal, as Dunn writes, "the <a href="http://www.isidore-of-seville.com/ibn-battuta/">formation of dense networks</a>** of communication and exchange." These networks "linked in <a href="http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~dludden/global1.htm">one way or another nearly everyone</a> in the hemisphere with nearly everyone else.
"From Ibn Battuta," Dunn continues, "we <a href="http://www.monkeytree.org/silkroad/battuta.html">discover webs of interconnection</a> that stretched from Spain to China, and from Kazakhstan to Tanzania." <a href="http://metaexistence.org/timeline2.htm">Even in the 14th century</a>, an event in one part of Eurasia or Africa might affect places thousands of miles away.</em> <a href="http://www.dailyreckoning.com.au/new-silk-road/2008/02/14/">Via</a>
*BBC documentary <a href="http://gulfnews.com/arts-entertainment/books/tim-mackintosh-smith-obsessed-with-ibn-battuta-1.1007262">in three parts</a> of which this link is to the first part. Noted here is that it doesn't cover <a href="http://courses.wcupa.edu/jones/his311/lectures/17battut.htm">Battuta's travels</a> in <a href="http://courses.wcupa.edu/jones/his311/lectures/16battut.htm">Sub Saharan Africa</a>, considered the best <a href="http://www.maldivesculture.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=198&Itemid=74">available written record</a> of life in Africa before the Europeans arrived.
**For more on the inexhaustible wealth of information from and about Ibn Battutapost:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123780Sat, 12 Jan 2013 03:27:42 -0800infiniibnbattutabattutahtravelertouristmedievalafricamiddleeastasiaindiachinaislandssoutheastasiadaralislamglobalizationhistoryBy: infini
http://www.metafilter.com/123780/Ibn-Battuta-Travels-in-Asia-and-Africa-13251354#4771921
This post is dedicated to <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/123735/Are-you-big-in-Japan#4770668">b1tr0t</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123780-4771921Sat, 12 Jan 2013 03:30:09 -0800infiniBy: anaximander
http://www.metafilter.com/123780/Ibn-Battuta-Travels-in-Asia-and-Africa-13251354#4771925
Hey, I studied this guy in college. This post goes into my 'reacquaint yourself with interesting stuff from that one class you forgot about' folder.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123780-4771925Sat, 12 Jan 2013 03:35:39 -0800anaximanderBy: dreamyshade
http://www.metafilter.com/123780/Ibn-Battuta-Travels-in-Asia-and-Africa-13251354#4771935
anximander, me too! I looked up my notes from my class on African travel narratives, and apparently I had fun reading about his travels: "He wandered around from college to college, hanging out with scholars, getting loaded with diplomas without having to do all the work, talking to mystics, and seeing new and interesting things along the way. That sounds like an academic's dream job, not to mention that once in a while he'd get married to yet another woman (who never gets mentioned again)."
We read <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0520243854/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/">this book by Dunn</a>, and here are bits of the Amazon reviews that help show how interesting his travels were:
<blockquote>Here was a man who journeyed thousands of miles over many, many years but who only very rarely felt himself to be a stranger in a strange land. In some places Islam was in the majority and in some places it was the minority but Ibn Battuta was always able to find educated Moslems similar to himself who could provide a place to live, food to eat, clothes to wear and money to spend.
The book is also very good when Ibn Battuta settles down in India for awhile and gets a nice, cushy government job working for a despot who sounds as though he was probably psychotic!
...his observations about Ibn Battuta's Sunday shouting down with Quranic verses of the Christian bells in an Anatolian town and the story of Ibn Battuta being stripped and left with a flourish by sea pirates.
Dunn recounts many of the Moroccan's interesting adventures, from being jailed in Delhi to trying as a judge to forbid Maldivian women going topless in public. Dunn also places Ibn Battuta in a framework of a hemisphere-wide Islamic civilization and as an ambitious semi-scholar who was perhaps not so well studied as he wanted people to believe.
</blockquote>comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123780-4771935Sat, 12 Jan 2013 03:58:30 -0800dreamyshadeBy: Joe in Australia
http://www.metafilter.com/123780/Ibn-Battuta-Travels-in-Asia-and-Africa-13251354#4771937
Great post, but how is he the "first tourist"?comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123780-4771937Sat, 12 Jan 2013 04:08:16 -0800Joe in AustraliaBy: Mezentian
http://www.metafilter.com/123780/Ibn-Battuta-Travels-in-Asia-and-Africa-13251354#4771942
Great, I just dug myself out of a Wookieepedia hole, and now I am going to spend even longer nerding out over real history.
Fantastic post.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123780-4771942Sat, 12 Jan 2013 04:15:21 -0800MezentianBy: RonButNotStupid
http://www.metafilter.com/123780/Ibn-Battuta-Travels-in-Asia-and-Africa-13251354#4771954
<em>Great post, but how is he the "first tourist"?</em>
I can only assume he was hopelessly naive, always thought the best of people while simultaneously being blissfully unaware of local exchange rates, and traveled around with a magical piece of luggage that walked along on hundreds of little legs.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123780-4771954Sat, 12 Jan 2013 04:45:31 -0800RonButNotStupidBy: taz
http://www.metafilter.com/123780/Ibn-Battuta-Travels-in-Asia-and-Africa-13251354#4771966
This is great, infini. I really enjoyed <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0812971647/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/">Travels with a Tangerine</a> by Tim Mackintosh-Smith, so I'm thrilled to find the documentary (which I haven't seen before) linked here. Lovely.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123780-4771966Sat, 12 Jan 2013 05:11:04 -0800tazBy: fairmettle
http://www.metafilter.com/123780/Ibn-Battuta-Travels-in-Asia-and-Africa-13251354#4771968
<em>Great post, but how is he the "first tourist"?</em>
The OP did specify <em>"before the age of steam"</em>.
<small>(Please excuse the snark, I just couldn't resist - - this is a <strong>fantastic</strong> MeFi post!)</small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123780-4771968Sat, 12 Jan 2013 05:12:01 -0800fairmettleBy: Devils Rancher
http://www.metafilter.com/123780/Ibn-Battuta-Travels-in-Asia-and-Africa-13251354#4772014
<em>Great post, but how is he the "first tourist"?</em>
It is not widely known that he coined the phrase "Please cook my steak again."
Awesome post, infini. This is why I love metafilter.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123780-4772014Sat, 12 Jan 2013 06:19:23 -0800Devils RancherBy: BWA
http://www.metafilter.com/123780/Ibn-Battuta-Travels-in-Asia-and-Africa-13251354#4772073
Hard cheese on<a href="http://www.saudiaramcoworld.com/issue/196201/first.tourist.in.the.middle.east.htm"> Herodotus</a> and <a href="http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/pausanias-bk1.asp">Pausanias</a>, but, yeah, good stuff.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123780-4772073Sat, 12 Jan 2013 07:34:41 -0800BWABy: empath
http://www.metafilter.com/123780/Ibn-Battuta-Travels-in-Asia-and-Africa-13251354#4772093
That BBC series is great, btw. I watched it a few years ago and highly recommend it.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123780-4772093Sat, 12 Jan 2013 07:59:11 -0800empathBy: Iris Gambol
http://www.metafilter.com/123780/Ibn-Battuta-Travels-in-Asia-and-Africa-13251354#4772204
Thanks for this post! Adding a link to a great children's book: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0618432337/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/">Traveling Man: The Journey of Ibn Battuta 1325-1354</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123780-4772204Sat, 12 Jan 2013 09:32:40 -0800Iris GambolBy: b1tr0t
http://www.metafilter.com/123780/Ibn-Battuta-Travels-in-Asia-and-Africa-13251354#4772317
I am not disappointed.
Great post!comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123780-4772317Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:47:11 -0800b1tr0tBy: bookish
http://www.metafilter.com/123780/Ibn-Battuta-Travels-in-Asia-and-Africa-13251354#4772736
Awesome post. Whenever I hear the guy's name, I think of <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn7LkiAmskA">this Bollywood song</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123780-4772736Sat, 12 Jan 2013 14:04:15 -0800bookishBy: infini
http://www.metafilter.com/123780/Ibn-Battuta-Travels-in-Asia-and-Africa-13251354#4773010
Wrt to the above linked Bollywood song (no, don't use Nasruddin Shah to distract me ...)
<em>Abu Abdullah Muhammad Ibn Abdullah Al Lawati Al Tanji Ibn Battuta must be a happy man. For, many circas after his existence, the usage of his name in a few lines in the song Ibn-e-Batuta Ta Ta, Bagal Mein Joota Ta Ta ... in Ishqiya has created a controversy.
<a href="http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2010-02-04/news-interviews/28146079_1_nikal-pade-toofan-mein-batuta-pehen-ke-joota-ibn-e-batuta">The point of contention is apparently the similarity between the song's opening line and that of a poem by well-known Hindi poet Sarveshwar Dayal Saxena, which goes, Ibn Batuta Pehen Ke Joota, Nikal Pade Toofan Mein ..</a></em>comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123780-4773010Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:25:04 -0800infiniBy: infini
http://www.metafilter.com/123780/Ibn-Battuta-Travels-in-Asia-and-Africa-13251354#4773012
<em>Hard cheese on Herodotus and Pausanias,</em>
Hence the sense that I should probably put that in air quotes... nice links btw, thank you.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123780-4773012Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:26:33 -0800infiniBy: mygothlaundry
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The first phone call I got today at work at the used bookstore was somebody looking for Ibn Battuta. I had never heard of him and was also forced to admit to the caller that we didn't have <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0520243854/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/">the book</a>. About five hours later, I ended up staring in bemusement at that same book that had just come in, a book that none of us were familiar with. Well, okay, that's normal enough; it is eerie how many times people come in looking for something that shows up a few hours later.
And then I came home and checked Metafilter and hello, here is Ibn Battuta again.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123780-4773079Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:34:13 -0800mygothlaundryBy: aqsakal
http://www.metafilter.com/123780/Ibn-Battuta-Travels-in-Asia-and-Africa-13251354#4773388
Super post - many thanks!comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123780-4773388Sun, 13 Jan 2013 03:09:49 -0800aqsakalBy: vanar sena
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<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/123780/Ibn-Battuta-Travels-in-Asia-and-Africa-13251354#4773010">infini</a>: "<i> Ibn Batuta Pehen Ke Joota, Nikal Pade Toofan Mein ..</i>"
Reading the <a href="http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2010-02-06/news-and-interviews/28143786_1_bagal-mein-joota-nikal-pade-toofan-mein-hai">original poem</a>, I'm not sure this is something for Saxena to complain about. Apart from rhyming <i>Battuta</i> with <i>joota</i> (REALLY CLEVER THERE, GUYS), there really isn't much similarity at all.
The only complaint I can drum up with the Gulzar song is that the mention of Battuta is completely superfluous. At least the Saxena poem has some relevance to stuff Battuta actually might have done, such as going to Japan, or visiting a cobbler.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123780-4776224Tue, 15 Jan 2013 07:05:50 -0800vanar senaBy: infini
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<em> such as going to Japan, or visiting a cobbler.</em>
So who wrote 'mera joota hai japani' and does he/she get to sue both of them?comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123780-4776276Tue, 15 Jan 2013 07:34:15 -0800infiniBy: vanar sena
http://www.metafilter.com/123780/Ibn-Battuta-Travels-in-Asia-and-Africa-13251354#4776576
Heh, that would be <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mera_Joota_Hai_Japani">Shailendra</a>, and Shree 420 was released in 1955, sixteen years before Saxena's poem was published. So... probably?comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123780-4776576Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:17:04 -0800vanar sena
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