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Comments on MetaFilter post Shinier, happier people.Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:33:23 -0800Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:33:23 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60Shinier, happier people.
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<a href="http://vimeo.com/majorscaledtv">Major scaled</a> is a Vimeo user who digitally transposes sad songs into a major key. Here's their cheerful rendition of REM's <a href="http://vimeo.com/24939206">Losing My Religion</a>. <br /><br />Also:
Metallica - <a href="http://vimeo.com/24938649">Nothing Else Matters</a>
The Doors - <a href="http://vimeo.com/24939393">Riders of the Storm</a>
Django Reinhardt - <a href="http://vimeo.com/49241080">Minor Swing</a>post:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:30:17 -0800schmodmusicmajorkeyminorkeypopremmetallicadoorsthedoorsdjangoreinhardtautotunethesaddestofallkeysBy: Nick Jordan
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Fantastic! Much as I love sad songs, I got a great deal of pleasure from listening to this.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780307Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:33:23 -0800Nick JordanBy: cooker girl
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780311
I quite like this!comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780311Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:34:10 -0800cooker girlBy: NoMich
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780314
Huh. This only puts the exclamation point on the claim of me being tone deaf. I hear a difference from the originals, but I don't I'm not hearing a difference in the emotion of the song.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780314Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:36:29 -0800NoMichBy: DWRoelands
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This is wonderful.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780332Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:46:23 -0800DWRoelandsBy: montag2k
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780335
<strong>NoMich</strong>: I don't think the difference in REM hits very hard, at least to me. It is interesting to hear it be a little less sad.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780335Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:49:17 -0800montag2kBy: Thorzdad
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780338
I really get that unsettling "something's not quite right" vibe from these. On their own, they're pretty good. But, having become so familiar with the originals, I keep getting thrown-off by their relentless cheerfulness.
It's pretty impressive work, though.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780338Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:50:25 -0800ThorzdadBy: Jpfed
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780339
I had a friend in high school who would do this- you'd ask for a song and he'd play it on the piano, but switching between major and minor. When he did it then, it seemed funny and playful, but there's something really strangely unpleasant about it in the linked examples. I can't listen to more than a minute of any of them. Maybe I've just changed as a music listener?
<small>As an aside, this friend went on to kick ass on Jeopardy! and eventually win the Tournament of Champions.</small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780339Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:51:12 -0800JpfedBy: cribcage
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780342
This is really cool. Thanks for posting.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780342Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:52:01 -0800cribcageBy: wittgenstein
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780343
THIS IS FASCINATING!comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780343Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:53:02 -0800wittgensteinBy: DigDoug
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780344
Do Elliot Smith next!comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780344Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:53:54 -0800DigDougBy: the painkiller
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780345
I love this! At long last, Mr. Mojo Risin' finally sounds like the lounge act he was destined to become.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780345Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:54:19 -0800the painkillerBy: resurrexit
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780351
Wow. I feel like I'm being pulled in so many different directions. Songs I grew up with, where I have them almost imprinted in my being, and they're radically altered. 9/10 WOULD LISTEN AGAINcomment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780351Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:57:25 -0800resurrexitBy: dirtdirt
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780357
It's even better the other way around!
I spent a hilarious Christmas eve one time with some friends playing and singing happy 'major' key Christmas Carols as haunting, minor dirges. Jingle Bells, as I recall, was a real winner when played like that.
I want to see these people apply the reverse of their algorithms to something irrepressibly up, say, "Walking on Sunshine".comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780357Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:59:21 -0800dirtdirtBy: sonika
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780364
I've heard this done the other way - namely a cheerful birthday song redone in a minor key for a funeral, and it's haunting.
This is equally surreal (especially Losing My Religion since I've heard it so many times in the original - Out of Time being one of my favorite albums)... what's the opposite of haunting? Eerie, but happy - what's the word for that? Eepy?comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780364Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:01:33 -0800sonikaBy: jferg
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780365
The REM one didn't seem to greatly affect the feel of the song that much, but the Metallica one turns it into (almost) an uplifting anthem. It ... confuses me.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780365Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:02:06 -0800jfergBy: monju_bosatsu
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780370
This is like the uncanny valley of music.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780370Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:03:51 -0800monju_bosatsuBy: DU
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780376
<i>Huh. This only puts the exclamation point on the claim of me being tone deaf. I hear a difference from the originals, but I don't I'm not hearing a difference in the emotion of the song.</i>
Exactly this. It's the exact same emotional tone but the music is different.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780376Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:07:37 -0800DUBy: brokkr
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780378
<blockquote><a href="http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780357">dirtdirt</a>: "<i>I want to see these people apply the reverse of their algorithms to something irrepressibly up, say, "Walking on Sunshine".</i>"</blockquote>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0o5GauFG1Q">Type 0 Negative - Summer Breeze</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780378Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:07:43 -0800brokkrBy: uncleozzy
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I guess the obvious way to do this would be to use Melodyne on stems from Rock Band or wherever ... which is why I'm confused about why the bass in Losing My Religion is so screwed up leading into the "I thought that I heard ..." bits (listen at about 1:30 or so).
Unless they just snapped to the major scale and pitch corrected, harmony be damned.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780384Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:08:59 -0800uncleozzyBy: kurumi
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780389
This is great. (And Major Scaled's Vimeo avatar is perfect -- like correcting an accidental.)
Imagine doing the opposite to (or for, really) "Call Me Maybe". Or swap out the harmony entirely for something else, like when the church organist does a semi-proggy variation for verse 3 of a hymn.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780389Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:09:42 -0800kurumiBy: qxntpqbbbqxl
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There was a button on my old MIDI keyboard that would flip the keys in to a mirror image of a keyboard, such that left to right was now highest to lowest, and the actual note middle C was played by the E above it. Playing what looked like a C-major chord would produce A-minor instead. Mozart's K545 (normally in C major) played in this way sounded fantastic.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780393Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:12:40 -0800qxntpqbbbqxlBy: zippy
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780396
I like to do this in the other direction. My Gregorian Chant versions of "1999" and "My girl likes to party all the time" are big hits (in my own mind)comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780396Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:13:42 -0800zippyBy: Nelson
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780402
The keyboard solo around 3 minutes in to <a href="http://vimeo.com/24939393">Riders on the Storm</a> is just amazing. It's like a cheerful jingle, a little bit of filler music for a sit-com.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780402Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:15:39 -0800NelsonBy: LionIndex
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Has the reverse of this that you're all talking about ever been a MetaFilterMusic challenge?comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780404Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:16:00 -0800LionIndexBy: EvaDestruction
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Interesting. I like the defiant feel of "Nothing Else Matters" and the bubbliness of "Minor Swing" but "Losing My Religion" just sounds too strange to my ears, and "Riders on the Storm" was creeping me out to the point I couldn't finish it.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780406Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:17:29 -0800EvaDestructionBy: The demon that lives in the air
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good lord, the intro to Nothing Else Matters suddenly sounds like a late-career Beatles single.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780412Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:18:55 -0800The demon that lives in the airBy: ricochet biscuit
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How strange the change from minor to major.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780417Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:22:17 -0800ricochet biscuitBy: infinitewindow
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I'd forgotten just how damn <i>trite</i> The Doors movie was.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780425Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:27:09 -0800infinitewindowBy: snottydick
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<em>I like the defiant feel of "Nothing Else Matters" and the bubbliness of "Minor Swing" but "Losing My Religion" just sounds too strange to my ears, and "Riders on the Storm" was creeping me out to the point I couldn't finish it</em>
I guess it's all a matter of perspective, because I felt that "Nothing Else Matters" stops being a good song when you move into the major scale, whereas "Losing My Religion" and Django's swing remain great in either key.
At least we can agree on "Riders On The Storm." That's just awkward and unpleasant.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780428Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:28:02 -0800snottydickBy: invitapriore
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Wow, "Riders On the Storm" is easily my favorite of the bunch here. The casual cheeriness as Jim Morrison sings the "killer on the road" verse is like comedy crack to me. It's going to get me in trouble at work.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780431Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:31:08 -0800invitaprioreBy: hank
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"... the vocal part is the exact same from the REM version...all the instruments are just playing in A Major instead of F# Minor. literally every chord is replaced by its relative major/minor chord, so instead of F#m to C#m for the main part, it's A Maj E Maj." vimeo.com/24938649comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780436Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:32:04 -0800hankBy: uncleozzy
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780447
Hm, I don't know why I didn't catch that the first time through. The turnarounds still sound all wrong to me, though.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780447Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:37:08 -0800uncleozzyBy: bonobothegreat
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780450
Thanks for filling out my 50th birthday party playlist.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780450Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:38:25 -0800bonobothegreatBy: invitapriore
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780465
<em>The turnarounds still sound all wrong to me, though.</em>
Maybe because of the V♭9? It doesn't really sound idiomatic to me either, and it's preceded by a major IV, which is a little jarring.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780465Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:47:41 -0800invitaprioreBy: oulipian
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780466
I love this version of <em>Losing My Religion</em>. Haven't listened to that song in a while, but this post reminded me how much I still like REM. Time for some <em>New Adventures in Hi-Fi</em>...comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780466Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:48:11 -0800oulipianBy: FAMOUS MONSTER
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1. I want to put these on a CD or something and play them around my friends, like on road trips or whatever, and see if anyone notices that something's off.
2. For all of them, but especially Losing My Religion, there is a bizarre cognitive dissonance where my brain knows exactly what it should be hearing, but it isn't, and it keeps trying to push the music into the box of its expectations, but it can't. I expected that to wear off quickly but it kept going, and now my head feels a little funny like I was staring at one of those optical illusions that looks like it's moving but isn't. The best way I can explain this is that it's the sound equivalent of when you pick up a glass of what you believe is Coke, but it's really root beer, and for the first couple of seconds it does not taste like either Coke or root beer. Except that only last a few seconds, and this lasted for the entire song, and it was <em>weird</em>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780468Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:48:56 -0800FAMOUS MONSTERBy: EvaDestruction
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<i>I felt that "Nothing Else Matters" stops being a good song when you move into the major scale, whereas "Losing My Religion" and Django's swing remain great in either key.</i>
It's not a comment on the quality of the shifted song, really, just whether I could listen to it. I think taking them into major keys makes both "Nothing Else Matters" and "Minor Swing" sound substantially more generic. "Losing My Religion" is not forgettable in a major key, but it got way more challenging for me to listen to -- on preview, very much like FAMOUS MONSTER describes.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780474Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:52:35 -0800EvaDestructionBy: invitapriore
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780480
Shit, nevermind, that's just a diminished chord on the leading tone, I don't know what I was hearing.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780480Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:54:45 -0800invitaprioreBy: AnnElk
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780482
It makes Losing My Religion sound kind of tedious and like the key is always about to change but never does.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780482Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:55:47 -0800AnnElkBy: Debaser626
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I like this. But I much prefer songs in major keys. I'd say it's a safe bet that of all the songs I dislike, 90% of them are in a minor key. (although I do like songs in minor keys, but usually only listen to in certain "moods")
I wish Internet music services like Pandora had an option you could choose when you log in so it would "learn" whether you like major or minor keys, what those specific keys are and what your preferred BPMs are, for use when "suggesting" new music.
A simple data bit tagged to the song for its Major/Minor Key (A-G) and BPM would probably do it.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780502Thu, 17 Jan 2013 09:03:15 -0800Debaser626By: cortex
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Yeah, my immediate feeling with the Losing My Religion switcheroo was that it was a plausible alternate-universe take if Stipe et al had just not quite hit the nail on the head. It sounds like a lot of other sort of jangly pop rock ballads, a little too major key for the emotional tone of the thing. Though in practice I'd want to nudge a couple things about the arrangement if I were gonna try and take this and actually perform it. Makes some of the changes a little stronger for something sitting in the major.
I've always sort of felt like Luka was a song that didn't know what it was supposed to be, in that way—an overly cheery major-key, major-scale tune with shiny lines running through it about some neighbor kid being abused. A good piece of songwriting and production work in general, but just sort of goofyfooted at the end of it all.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780503Thu, 17 Jan 2013 09:03:19 -0800cortexBy: cortex
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<i>I wish Internet music services like Pandora had an option you could choose when you log in so it would "learn" whether you like major or minor keys, what those specific keys are and what your preferred BPMs are, for use when "suggesting" new music.</i>
The good news is that that data, at least, is something folks are looking at even if just-press-pray services like Pandora etc. aren't exposing that functionality to users; <a href="http://developer.echonest.com/">Echo Nest</a>'s API into their music database makes it actually pretty doable to query up a custom playlist parameterized by BPM and key, for example.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780512Thu, 17 Jan 2013 09:06:56 -0800cortexBy: invitapriore
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780532
<em>I like this. But I much prefer songs in major keys. I'd say it's a safe bet that of all the songs I dislike, 90% of them are in a minor key. (although I do like songs in minor keys, but usually only listen to in certain "moods")</em>
I've mostly found that I'm kind of tired of the ♭6 scale degree in an already minor context. It just doesn't sit right with me, like diner eggs that are just a little too greasy. Though, now that I'm thinking about it, I actually still remember when I played a m7 chord for the first time and I was just astounded at how much better and richer it sounded than the unadorned triad. It makes my having gotten into jazz seem almost inevitable.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780532Thu, 17 Jan 2013 09:16:19 -0800invitaprioreBy: Jpfed
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780534
<em>I wish Internet music services like Pandora had an option you could choose when you log in so it would "learn" whether you like major or minor keys, what those specific keys are and what your preferred BPMs are, for use when "suggesting" new music.</em>
This is a really frustrating aspect of Pandora. Here's how Pandora works, as I've gleaned from email exchanges with them:
"Offline" steps:
1. Classify each song along many criteria
2. Form a big <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_(mathematics)">graph</a> of songs, connecting songs in the graph if they are similar enough in their classifications
"Online" steps (while playing a station):
1. Start with an empty queue of songs in the player.
2. Whenever the player doesn't have anything in its queue, it selects a thumbed-up or seeded song from that station
3. Queue up three more songs connected to the song you picked in online step 2 that haven't been thumbed-down.
What this means is that the criteria never get exposed to the user! I'd love to be able to create channels that, for example, just never select a song with vocals; they distract me from my work. But Pandora will just stupidly walk around its graph and the only input I can give it is "I like/dislike this node on the graph for this channel". Poop, I say!comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780534Thu, 17 Jan 2013 09:16:36 -0800JpfedBy: Jpfed
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780541
Aside from wanting the criteria exposed in some way, my other most-wanted feature for Pandora is a "move to other channel" button. Sometimes I like a song in general, but don't want it in the context of the channel that's playing. To move a song, right now you have to thumb it down in the current channel, then edit the channel you want to move it to and add it as a liked song (which requires you to find the song again).comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780541Thu, 17 Jan 2013 09:19:56 -0800JpfedBy: moonmilk
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780558
I was thinking of making a post of it, but this seems like a perfectly good place to put <a href="http://www.rockabyebabymusic.com/">Rockabye Baby Music</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780558Thu, 17 Jan 2013 09:24:15 -0800moonmilkBy: mark7570
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Anyone else having trouble loading up the REM song? Looks like it was just taken down.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780561Thu, 17 Jan 2013 09:25:11 -0800mark7570By: fatbaq
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780573
what the mainframe? i must have missed this joke when it made the rounds..comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780573Thu, 17 Jan 2013 09:29:10 -0800fatbaqBy: chara
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780593
Deleted! Oh bummer!comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780593Thu, 17 Jan 2013 09:37:35 -0800charaBy: to sir with millipedes
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780638
Seems like then REM tune was removed. <a href="http://vimeo.com/majorscaledtv">The rest remain. Here's a link to the channel page</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780638Thu, 17 Jan 2013 09:54:02 -0800to sir with millipedesBy: bendybendy
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If they got a takedown from REM's camp, I can only imagine what will come from Metallica when they get wind of this.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780651Thu, 17 Jan 2013 09:57:47 -0800bendybendyBy: charred husk
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780671
<blockquote><a href="http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780357">dirtdirt</a>:<br>"I spent a hilarious Christmas eve one time with some friends playing and singing happy 'major' key Christmas Carols as haunting, minor dirges"</blockquote>
This would be the Abney Park Christmas album.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780671Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:02:28 -0800charred huskBy: iamkimiam
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780674
Daaang, I *really* wanted to hear the R.E.M. one!comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780674Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:03:47 -0800iamkimiamBy: Doohickie
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780712
Yeah, same here.
Then again, maybe not. I couldn't listen to the Doors all the way through in one sitting. After a minute or two of play, my brain starts to scream "THIS ISN'T RIGHT"comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780712Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:20:29 -0800DoohickieBy: 2bucksplus
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780713
I'm going to be humming a strangely upbeat "Riders on the Storm" all day at work.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780713Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:20:59 -08002bucksplusBy: 2bucksplus
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So, uh, anyway to capture these for later listening?comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780719Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:23:18 -08002bucksplusBy: Debaser626
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780726
In a similar, yet Yankovician theme <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLbua0guq_w&feature=player_embedded#!">You Da F**kin Best - Drake</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780726Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:25:32 -0800Debaser626By: bukvich
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780744
I loved the Doors one. Will definitely listen to a couple more later. If there is a good Elton John one somebody could point to I bet he would work pretty swell in this mode.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780744Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:32:24 -0800bukvichBy: COBRA!
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780754
Wow, this is the most amazing thing I've come across in a while.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780754Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:36:55 -0800COBRA!By: 2bucksplus
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780771
The other song, by Django Reinhardt, ends up sounding like the treacly Hawaiian music you'd hear in a hotel lobby.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780771Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:43:45 -08002bucksplusBy: Sys Rq
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780792
<em>Page not found
Sorry, "Major Scaled #2 : REM - "Recovering My Religion"" was deleted at 12:01:56 Thu Jan 17, 2013.
We have no more information about it on our mainframe or elsewhere.
</em>comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780792Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:49:38 -0800Sys RqBy: unSane
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780793
That version of RIDERS ON THE STORM is so much better than the original. Morrison should have gone the lounge singer route. He'd still be packing them in on the Borscht Belt.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780793Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:49:44 -0800unSaneBy: caladesi
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780801
These are really wonderful pics and songs. I like them.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780801Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:53:29 -0800caladesiBy: tresbizzare
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780812
<a href="http://vidaru.com/major-scaled-2-rem-quotrecover-ing-my-religionquot/53738208">REM Mirror</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780812Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:57:17 -0800tresbizzareBy: Sys Rq
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780818
<em>REM Mirror</em>
That's just an embed of the same video. It's deleted too.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780818Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:00:48 -0800Sys RqBy: tresbizzare
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780824
Sorry, it worked for me for some reason and I never saw the original link before it was taken down.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780824Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:02:10 -0800tresbizzareBy: COBRA!
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780874
I've been taking guitar lessons for a few months to fill in all of the gaps I've developed after 20ish years of teaching myself to play... For the most part, the lessons have really focused on music theory. I have a lesson tonight, and I think it'll largely be half an hour of talking about these videos.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780874Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:14:41 -0800COBRA!By: Saddo
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780912
The Doors one sounds like Interpol.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780912Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:31:28 -0800SaddoBy: KokuRyu
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780915
These made me laugh out loud.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780915Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:34:48 -0800KokuRyuBy: iamkimiam
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780994
Between this thread and the MeTa about the color shift in the AskMe green background, I have learned that I infinitely more skilled at detecting subtle variations with my eyes than I ever will be with my ears.
Also, if somebody could start a MeFi Project of reinterpreting songs in major and minor keys and then post it on Music, we could have a meetup IRL and the circle would be complete. Please start with R.E.M., as I never got to hear it. I await the reaffirmation of my faith in you.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780994Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:11:56 -0800iamkimiamBy: djeo
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4780997
Did anyone happen to download it? I grabbed the Metallica one just in case...comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4780997Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:12:39 -0800djeoBy: djeo
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4781010
s/Metallica one/other three/comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4781010Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:18:00 -0800djeoBy: djeo
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4781052
<a href="http://www.frequency.com/video/major-scaled-2-rem-recovering-my/14399508">http://www.frequency.com/video/major-scaled-2-rem-recovering-my/14399508</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4781052Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:34:45 -0800djeoBy: jokeefe
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4781058
Holy damn, the Doors one! What an improvement! Whee!
So great. Sounds a bit Stereolab-ish in places.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4781058Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:40:08 -0800jokeefeBy: jclarkin
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4781075
I can't not tap my feet to the Doors track. It really feels upbeat now. What a great concept. Mathmatical!
Zippy -- You're in for a treat (?) if you search for "Gregorian" on youtube.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4781075Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:46:29 -0800jclarkinBy: Authorized User
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4781076
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ59N5s8-4I&feature=player_detailpage#t=86s">Finnish Musician Anssi Kela did this to some heavy metal riffs some years ago</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4781076Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:46:43 -0800Authorized UserBy: jokeefe
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4781099
<i>I'm going to be humming a strangely upbeat "Riders on the Storm" all day at work.</i>
I'm on my fourth playthrough! It rocks!comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4781099Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:59:10 -0800jokeefeBy: TwoWordReview
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4781102
These are amazing, but will it work with something in D minor, the saddest of all keys?comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4781102Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:59:56 -0800TwoWordReviewBy: jokeefe
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4781113
Putting Losing My Religion into the major drained it of all its power, for me. It was weird; it suddenly sounded banal and unremarkable.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4781113Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:04:53 -0800jokeefeBy: dhartung
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4781136
Frequency is on scheduled maintenance, now. It's a freakin' conspiracy, man.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4781136Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:13:05 -0800dhartungBy: gadget_gal
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4781168
This is awesome. REM's losing my religion evokes a completely different emotion from the original. From "doomed sadness" to "happy abandon" with only a trace of melancholy.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4781168Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:28:10 -0800gadget_galBy: KokuRyu
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4781182
<em>I'm on my fourth playthrough! It rocks!</em>
♫ ♫ <em>There's a killer on the road!</em> ♫ ♫comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4781182Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:36:03 -0800KokuRyuBy: synthetik
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4781183
Just saw the alt links.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4781183Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:36:18 -0800synthetikBy: TwoWordReview
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4781192
Mental note: Check the tags first...comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4781192Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:42:52 -0800TwoWordReviewBy: unSane
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4781266
Well, February's challenge on MeFiMusic is sorted anyway.
(I have already worked out a jaunty version of Radiohead's HIGH AND DRY on the banjo)comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4781266Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:33:24 -0800unSaneBy: iamkimiam
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4781312
GAH! Frequency, nooooo!comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4781312Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:04:12 -0800iamkimiamBy: 2bucksplus
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4781314
<a href="http://the20000.tumblr.com/post/40761162296/derasso-major-scaled-2-rem-recovering-my">Somehow this version of R.E.M. is working as of this moment.</a> Get it while it's hot.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4781314Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:04:50 -08002bucksplusBy: Joey Michaels
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4781330
Just listened to 2bluckplus' version of the link and...
No no no. For this to work in a major key, different instruments are needed and the tempo needs to be changed. Indeed, a different vocal track (and perhaps even different singer) are needed. As it stands, this change is just enough to make the song sound off, but not enough to make it sound cheerful.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4781330Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:17:45 -0800Joey MichaelsBy: iamkimiam
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4781425
It's now cold. :(
(I feel like I'm playing Whack-A-Mole. Badly.)comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4781425Thu, 17 Jan 2013 16:29:43 -0800iamkimiamBy: 4ster
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4781493
They turned the Metallica song into a Queensryche song.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4781493Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:07:47 -08004sterBy: jonp72
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4781709
Shifting from minor to major key is practically a stylistic trademark of 1960s <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunshine_pop">sunshine pop</a> and <a href="http://rateyourmusic.com/list/monocle/grooviness_squared__the_now_sound_of_yesterday">Now Sound</a> cover versions.
Here's <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BW_rvY8HKA">the Sunshine Company's peppier cover of the moody Beatles B-side, Rain</a>. For the really adventurous, there's also <a href="http://lordofthebootsale.blogspot.com/2010/08/tony-bennett-eleanor-rigby.html">Tony Bennett's ill-advised cover of Eleanor Rigby</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4781709Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:09:06 -0800jonp72By: Lipstick Thespian
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4781724
That REM remake is SO VASTLY SUPERIOR to the original! They should have made Losing My Religion in this key. Massive earworm. I LOVE THIS!
Unfortunately, the same can't be said for the Doors. That one was just icepick creepy.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4781724Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:19:53 -0800Lipstick ThespianBy: Sys Rq
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4781742
<em>They turned the Metallica song into a Queensryche song.</em>
*youtubes the fuck out of Queensryche*comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4781742Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:27:30 -0800Sys RqBy: bleep
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4781746
I loved this post and desire MOAR. Listened to all of these several times today. I don't see much love here for the Metallica one. I thought that one was particularly good, it made me happy. I grew up listening to a lot of Metallica on the radio and finding them really obnoxious, but I liked this a lot. I appreciate artful discordance, but I also appreciate when things "match" and I liked how the sound of the song is now something like "hopeful in spite of itself" in a way that matches the lyrics.
But anyway, MOAR.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4781746Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:29:00 -0800bleepBy: Brocktoon
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4781915
Is that high C or vitamin D?comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4781915Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:09:49 -0800BrocktoonBy: jokeefe
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4781927
LP, you have it exactly backwards. The Doors one was a vast leap forward. The REM cover was no fun. Please keep up.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4781927Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:20:38 -0800jokeefeBy: neuron
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4781972
"I like sad songs. They make me want to lie on the floor."comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4781972Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:21:23 -0800neuronBy: neckro23
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4782011
For posterity, audio only (get 'em while they're hot): <a href="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/361633/audio/Major_Scaled-Recovering_My_Religion.mp3">"Recovering My Religion"</a>, <a href="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/361633/audio/Major_Scaled-Nothing_Else_Majeur.mp3">"Nothing Else Majeur"</a>.
It looks like the first one is in the process of being memory-holed by Vimeo's CDN right now. The Vimeo site knows it's deleted, but the "mirror" sites can still sometimes find it.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4782011Thu, 17 Jan 2013 23:31:38 -0800neckro23By: iamkimiam
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4782041
I just woke up, saw this post, listened to the song! neckro23, you made my day, thanks! I love the ending of Losing my Religion...absolutely perfect.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4782041Fri, 18 Jan 2013 00:17:52 -0800iamkimiamBy: cowboy_sally
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4782626
FYI: MajorScaled reposted the "Recovering My Religion" video <a href="https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=489539097755020">on their Facebook page</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4782626Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:06:24 -0800cowboy_sallyBy: iamkimiam
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4783483
My housemates are watching (actually, blasting) Silence of the Lambs downstairs and it just occurred to me how badly I want to see this whole film again, in a major key.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4783483Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:51:53 -0800iamkimiamBy: COBRA!
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4783500
Having finally heard the R.E.M. song... the interesting thing to me is that the Doors and Metallica songs sounded hilarious and wrong; this one just sounds like a different R.E.M. song. Meaning, I guess, that they had a lot more range in terms of what you could expect from them.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4783500Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:03:24 -0800COBRA!By: iamkimiam
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4783530
I know what you mean. I really think that It's The End of the World As We Know It should be changed to a minor key, as well as Shiny, Happy People. And Everybody Hurts to major. Then the world will be balanced and hey, new R.E.M. songs to boot!comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4783530Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:21:16 -0800iamkimiamBy: cortex
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4783661
Everybody Hurts already is in a major key, though; it's just I / IV / I / IV in the verse, ii / V / ii / V in the chorus. R.E.M. is just one of those bands, man.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4783661Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:29:22 -0800cortexBy: iamkimiam
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4783672
See, this is where we need that minor/major key reference thing you or somebody else mentioned above. I have no clue. I just know, "song sound happy, song sound sad" and I want happy song to sound sad and sad song to sound happy. I also want more R.E.M. songs.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4783672Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:33:37 -0800iamkimiamBy: afiler
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4784806
"Recovering My Religion" sounds like what "Losing My Religion" would have sounded like if REM had made it ten years later.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4784806Sat, 19 Jan 2013 15:59:03 -0800afilerBy: bonobothegreat
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4787060
<em>"Recovering My Religion" sounds like what "Losing My Religion" would have sounded like if REM had made it ten years later.</em>
That's funny, I was thinking it sounded like something from their first album.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4787060Mon, 21 Jan 2013 15:13:31 -0800bonobothegreatBy: fings
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4791936
<a href="http://evolver.fm/2013/01/24/how-major-key-version-of-r-e-m-s-losing-my-religion-was-made/">How Major-Key Version of R.E.M.'s 'Losing My Religion' Was Made</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4791936Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:54:33 -0800fingsBy: JiBB
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4798104
Major Scaled has now re-uploaded <a href="http://vimeo.com/57685359">"Recovering my Religion"</a> to their Vimeo page.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4798104Mon, 28 Jan 2013 12:25:09 -0800JiBBBy: unSane
http://www.metafilter.com/123937/Shinier-happier-people#4801960
As promised, this is now <a href="http://music.metafilter.com/6713/February-Challenge-Major-to-Minor">February's Mefi Music Challenge</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.123937-4801960Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:10:48 -0800unSane
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