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Comments on MetaFilter post Important communication skillsWed, 15 May 2013 15:01:19 -0800Wed, 15 May 2013 15:01:19 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60Important communication skills
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DOOyVfbElo">Use "Metatalk" skill to discuss communication problems.</a>post:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114Wed, 15 May 2013 14:55:53 -0800Brandon Blatchercommunicationcommunitymeyouhinderancerecognizepartner2personelevelemotionlevelhearconversationproblemsolvingmetatalkneedswantsvocabularyawarenessdesiresrelationshipcommunciationbasicsvariablesrespectmessageselfrespectverbalauditoryeyecontactsocialquespackherdherdmentatiltyattentionlearnknowledgeevolutioninformationbubbletherapypayattentioncockmutalrespectlifecommuncationskillsskillsabouttrueselfpersonalitypastfuturefocusinterruptiontagsBy: Artw
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980428
Your relationship is doomed.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980428Wed, 15 May 2013 15:01:19 -0800ArtwBy: crayz
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980429
Metatalk: this communication is too slow for me to pay attention tocomment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980429Wed, 15 May 2013 15:01:26 -0800crayzBy: Ghostride The Whip
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980430
So we flame each other until derailed by injokes? Actually that's pretty much how the wife and I communicate.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980430Wed, 15 May 2013 15:03:32 -0800Ghostride The WhipBy: Mad_Carew
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980431
I have level 3 Metatalk skills. How many plusses does that get me?comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980431Wed, 15 May 2013 15:04:25 -0800Mad_CarewBy: joelf
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980437
Blah blah blah blah...comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980437Wed, 15 May 2013 15:06:34 -0800joelfBy: The Whelk
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980438
I cast MetaTalkaga!comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980438Wed, 15 May 2013 15:07:24 -0800The WhelkBy: radwolf76
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980439
<em>I have level 3 Metatalk skills. How many plusses does that get me?</em>
That depends, how many ranks did you take in Snark? You may get the synergy bonus.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980439Wed, 15 May 2013 15:07:54 -0800radwolf76By: Blasdelb
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980441
I have two questions, do Psychology departments have <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/127541/Pathological-Physics-Tales-from-The-Box">boxes</a> for these guys, and can I subscribe to their newsletters?comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980441Wed, 15 May 2013 15:08:30 -0800BlasdelbBy: Kabanos
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980453
So we've all been using the wrong awareness bubble?comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980453Wed, 15 May 2013 15:18:06 -0800KabanosBy: idiopath
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980454
Blasdelb: this guy sounds like he is a therapist referencing the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second-order_cybernetics">second order cybernetics</a> variant of systems theory. Not exactly mainstream, but it is its own thing and not something this guy invented (and if you think cybernetics is crackpot, start with Mead, Bateson, Maturana, Von Foerster, not this guy).comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980454Wed, 15 May 2013 15:18:31 -0800idiopathBy: Blasdelb
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980455
"<em>E stands for Emotion. Our emotions, as you know, go up and down moment by moment. When your emotions are metaphorically above your ears, when you have intense emotions, often that interferes with your ability to <em>hear</em>. So its important to pay attention to, in important conversations, WHERE IS YOUR E LEVEL! *points finger* Is it below the ears? Meaning, can you hear me? or is it above your ears, where your hearing is impaired?</em>"
I just want to pause for a moment and give thanks to God that I am not married to this man.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980455Wed, 15 May 2013 15:18:52 -0800BlasdelbBy: spitbull
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980458
Life could suck worse. This dude could be your therapist.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980458Wed, 15 May 2013 15:20:33 -0800spitbullBy: Apropos of Something
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980466
This belongs in MetaMetaTalk.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980466Wed, 15 May 2013 15:23:35 -0800Apropos of SomethingBy: bicyclefish
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980470
"One of these skills is called meta-talk. You might say, well, that's that? Meta-writing is writing about writing. Meta-dancing is dancing about dancing."
This does not illuminate the concept.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980470Wed, 15 May 2013 15:25:11 -0800bicyclefishBy: Blasdelb
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980471
I want to stop listening, but I can't help myself, there are too many unanswered questions. Is E level really something idiosyncratic to him, what is this dude smoking, if I could find it would I want some, WHY IS THERE A COCK TAG?comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980471Wed, 15 May 2013 15:26:07 -0800BlasdelbBy: hamandcheese
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980473
Needs more tags.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980473Wed, 15 May 2013 15:27:19 -0800hamandcheeseBy: spitbull
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980484
Needs more drugs.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980484Wed, 15 May 2013 15:31:13 -0800spitbullBy: Blasdelb
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980497
"<em>A meta comment might sound like: You know Lucy I have a feeling that your E leel is above your ears, that is a meta comment, no criticism - no problem solving, its information. See?</em>"
Oh god this bastard would fit in perfectly here.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980497Wed, 15 May 2013 15:36:02 -0800BlasdelbBy: twoleftfeet
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980502
Take it to MetaTalk.
<small>Alphabet game, anyone?</small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980502Wed, 15 May 2013 15:38:18 -0800twoleftfeetBy: billiebee
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980522
If he's found stabbed just above the ear his partner can show this to the judge.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980522Wed, 15 May 2013 15:51:38 -0800billiebeeBy: coolxcool=rad
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980529
I wasn't comfortable with his use of "variable" when applied to the use of eye contact.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980529Wed, 15 May 2013 15:56:18 -0800coolxcool=radBy: Mooski
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980541
Listening to him reminded me a bit much of Eckhart Tolle. Now I feel like I need to take amphetamines to get back to normal.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980541Wed, 15 May 2013 16:04:46 -0800MooskiBy: randomkeystrike
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980542
The fact that he's wearing a t-shirt and appears to be sitting in a hospital room gives off less of a psychotherapist vibe and more a plain old psycho vibe.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980542Wed, 15 May 2013 16:05:15 -0800randomkeystrikeBy: thinkpiece
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980547
I wasn't comfortable with his t-shirt.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980547Wed, 15 May 2013 16:06:59 -0800thinkpieceBy: thinkpiece
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980548
randomkeystrike!! holla!comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980548Wed, 15 May 2013 16:07:54 -0800thinkpieceBy: idiopath
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980551
<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980541">Mooski</a>: "<i>Listening to him reminded me a bit much of Eckhart Tolle</i>"
Not a coincidence I don't think, Tolle is also heavily influenced by post-Bateson <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_psychology">systems psychology</a>.
But anyway, who cares about the content, this is just a point and laugh post.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980551Wed, 15 May 2013 16:09:16 -0800idiopathBy: coolxcool=rad
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980557
<em>But anyway, who cares about the content, this is just a point and laugh post.</em>
Yeah, I thought it was going to be deleted as well. But thanks for the link on systems psychology.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980557Wed, 15 May 2013 16:13:08 -0800coolxcool=radBy: jfuller
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980562
> if you think cybernetics is crackpot, start with Mead, Bateson, Maturana, Von Foerster, not this guy
Why not Norbert Weiner?comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980562Wed, 15 May 2013 16:15:09 -0800jfullerBy: coolxcool=rad
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980563
Yuck. Mostly garbage . +(comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980563Wed, 15 May 2013 16:16:25 -0800coolxcool=radBy: idiopath
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980568
jfuller: Weiner is first order, he was on good terms with the second order crowd, but there is a definite difference between first and second order (not that I think either are crackpots).comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980568Wed, 15 May 2013 16:18:44 -0800idiopathBy: phaedon
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980575
This is the kind of video you need to watch after spending your entire life playing of World of Warcraft. This is some top shelf living in mom's basement type shit.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980575Wed, 15 May 2013 16:20:58 -0800phaedonBy: jonmc
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980580
<a href="http://metatalk.metafilter.com/14901/cue-spooky-music">*cough*</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980580Wed, 15 May 2013 16:23:03 -0800jonmcBy: KokuRyu
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980593
Why is he making his video on a hospital bed?comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980593Wed, 15 May 2013 16:33:24 -0800KokuRyuBy: twoleftfeet
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980599
<i>Alphabet game, anyone?</i>
<a href="http://metatalk.metafilter.com/22651/A-post-about-metatalk-hasnt-been-deleted-yet-and-I-wonder-why">The game is on!</a>
<small>Thanks, Brandon.</small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980599Wed, 15 May 2013 16:34:36 -0800twoleftfeetBy: spitbull
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980600
He is a professional communicator. Some respect please.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980600Wed, 15 May 2013 16:35:54 -0800spitbullBy: orange swan
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980604
Shouldn't a professional communicator be able to say things in such a way that I want to listen to them?comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980604Wed, 15 May 2013 16:37:30 -0800orange swanBy: spitbull
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980610
The guy's other videos are even more obviously made in a hospital room. No question about it.
I am not so sure this needs to be on Metafilter all of a sudden.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980610Wed, 15 May 2013 16:39:50 -0800spitbullBy: spitbull
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980613
But since it's staying up, more context: Mr. Gerlach has a <a href="http://sfhelp.org/">website at sfhelp.org</a>
You click the little welcome mat to find the content. It's very GeoCities 2001.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980613Wed, 15 May 2013 16:42:43 -0800spitbullBy: alms
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980641
I love that most of the recommended videos going along with this one are Caillou. They really do go together well.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980641Wed, 15 May 2013 17:02:27 -0800almsBy: Edna Million
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980660
Yikes. Not interesting enough to put up with that whistling noise he makes when he talks. It was like nails on a chalkboard after a while.
<small>(I just realized how close the time is when most kids won't know what that sounds like!)</small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980660Wed, 15 May 2013 17:12:30 -0800Edna MillionBy: St. Alia of the Bunnies
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980701
This guy reminds me of the husband of an occasional employee where I work. He is megasmart but sounds and looks almost just like this guy. He's not a therapist or I would have SWORN it was the same dude.
And, yeah.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980701Wed, 15 May 2013 17:39:21 -0800St. Alia of the BunniesBy: mkultra
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980832
<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills">Metatalk</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980832Wed, 15 May 2013 19:07:10 -0800mkultraBy: lordaych
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4980967
Ha, I stumbled onto this recently by lazily trying to load metatalk from a tablet. I was confuse and stonecomment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4980967Wed, 15 May 2013 20:33:55 -0800lordaychBy: PeterMcDermott
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4981068
<em>Shouldn't a professional communicator be able to say things in such a way that I want to listen to them?</em>
He needs to see a therapist. A family systems therapist, perhaps...comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4981068Wed, 15 May 2013 21:40:30 -0800PeterMcDermottBy: Obscure Reference
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4981329
The guy is 70+ years old, so, yeah, he looks a little decrepit, but as a person of ageness, I feel a need to defend him, even though he says he "evolved" his "system." How many 70-year-olds can use youtube anyway? I suspect he had some young people helping him but that's because I'm a self-hating age-ist pig.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4981329Thu, 16 May 2013 06:04:50 -0800Obscure ReferenceBy: croutonsupafreak
http://www.metafilter.com/128114/Important-communication-skills#4983078
On the one hand, this guy has a culturally limited view of how humans should interact and is so in love with jargon that even if he had a point he wouldn't be able to get it across. On the other hand, I like the image of emotions hovering above or below the ears.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.128114-4983078Thu, 16 May 2013 19:24:53 -0800croutonsupafreak
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