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Comments on MetaFilter post Earplugs and PVA GlueSat, 13 Jul 2013 19:41:56 -0800Sat, 13 Jul 2013 19:41:56 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60Earplugs and PVA Glue
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<a href="http://vimeo.com/44191867">The Thread Wrapping Machine</a> post:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970Sat, 13 Jul 2013 19:22:05 -0800Confess, FletchgluethreadfurniturewrappingartstringBy: RolandOfEld
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5086300
It's cool, the tech nerd machinist in me loves it. But....
<em>I wanted to create an externalised joint that would enable me to combine a big range of different materials that normally would require <strong>very time consuming methods</strong> of jointing them together. At the same time a decorative pattern appears with the different colours of the thread.<em></em></em>
You mean like nails or screws? I guess I'm just saying a better proof of concept video is out there if the makers want to go for it...comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5086300Sat, 13 Jul 2013 19:41:56 -0800RolandOfEldBy: GrumpyDan
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5086318
<em>You mean like nails or screws?</em>
Ever tried to drive a nail through a piece of steel? Or glass? They used wood for convenience/ availability, I guess, but in theory any two materials could be "bound" in this manner...for...art projects, I guess?
Anyway, I spent the whole video cringing at what might happen if someone got their thumb all wrapped up.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5086318Sat, 13 Jul 2013 19:51:49 -0800GrumpyDanBy: justsomebodythatyouusedtoknow
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5086347
It looks more complicated than I would have expected for a thread wrapping machine. I wouldn't rule out the possibility that it's opening a portal to a parallel universe where the inserted objects are already fused.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5086347Sat, 13 Jul 2013 20:05:22 -0800justsomebodythatyouusedtoknowBy: RolandOfEld
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5086356
<em>Ever tried to drive a nail through a piece of steel? Or glass?</em>
Of course there's a use case, I just don't think they did a great job of illustrating it in this video.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5086356Sat, 13 Jul 2013 20:06:32 -0800RolandOfEldBy: Ad hominem
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5086358
If I had one of those I'd be out of thread in an hour just wrapping shit."ooh a banana, lemme wrap that", "ooh a bag of funions", "ooh my arm, lemme wrap that too".comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5086358Sat, 13 Jul 2013 20:06:42 -0800Ad hominemBy: NortonDC
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5086380
OSHA sense tingling...comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5086380Sat, 13 Jul 2013 20:15:16 -0800NortonDCBy: ryanrs
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5086412
This seems like a shitty version of a <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOk2M1BXD5A">braiding</a> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOhj7X1-x10">machine</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5086412Sat, 13 Jul 2013 20:27:51 -0800ryanrsBy: velebita
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5086416
PVA glue is the ultimate art supply for making stuff cheap and fast. We used to go through buckets of in the puppet shop.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5086416Sat, 13 Jul 2013 20:33:51 -0800velebitaBy: InsertNiftyNameHere
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5086418
They may see a thread wrapping machine, but I see a finger removal machine.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5086418Sat, 13 Jul 2013 20:34:10 -0800InsertNiftyNameHereBy: mochapickle
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5086456
Those braiding machine videos are wonderful. If they installed a working braiding machine at like MoMa I would sit and watch it all day.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5086456Sat, 13 Jul 2013 21:04:10 -0800mochapickleBy: Sternmeyer
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5086467
No hand or eye protection? Idiots.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5086467Sat, 13 Jul 2013 21:09:33 -0800SternmeyerBy: blueberry
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5086494
<em>"ooh a bag of funions"</em>
That's <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funyuns">Funyuns</a>, old boy. Funions are atoms or molecules with extra/missing electrons, but yet a certain <em>joie de vivre</em>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5086494Sat, 13 Jul 2013 21:34:44 -0800blueberryBy: notsnot
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5086508
<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5086456">mochapickle</a>: "<i>Those braiding machine videos are wonderful. If they installed a working braiding machine at like MoMa I would sit and watch it all day.</i>"
If you're ever in St. Louis, <a href="http://citymuseum.org/site/?p=62">you're in luck.</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5086508Sat, 13 Jul 2013 22:00:47 -0800notsnotBy: Tube
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5086509
I built and sold lamps for a time. I would hand wrap various synthetic materials like <a href="http://www.orgoneresearch.com/IMG_2317.jpg">Kevlar or Nomex</a> around steel frames. I didn't use any adhesive, and the filaments held just fine. I certainly fantasized about "wrapping machines" while hand wrapping!
Also, do the wrappers in this video ever make nice looking things?comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5086509Sat, 13 Jul 2013 22:01:41 -0800TubeBy: 1f2frfbf
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5086512
I approve of this, but only if the machine is nicknamed "Christo."comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5086512Sat, 13 Jul 2013 22:04:53 -08001f2frfbfBy: intermod
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5086520
Seconding <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5086412">ryanrs' post above</a>. Carbon fiber braiding machines are awesome.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5086520Sat, 13 Jul 2013 22:11:19 -0800intermodBy: mrbill
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5086527
The "ore" instead of "or" typo is making me twitch.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5086527Sat, 13 Jul 2013 22:17:39 -0800mrbillBy: mrbill
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5086531
Also: the end result looks like Spider-Man got fed up with the IKEA assembly instructions.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5086531Sat, 13 Jul 2013 22:19:15 -0800mrbillBy: MrMoonPie
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5086533
I approve of this, but only if the machine is nicknamed "Tupac."comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5086533Sat, 13 Jul 2013 22:23:04 -0800MrMoonPieBy: slothhog
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5086546
This is what it looks like when I try to sew something pretty. I was pretty excited to see this for some reason and then oddly deflated that the thread didn't look pleasing (to me) and the connectrorized( favorite family word) part looked wobbly.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5086546Sat, 13 Jul 2013 22:46:00 -0800slothhogBy: DU
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5086772
<i>I wanted to create an externalised joint that would enable me to combine a big range of different materials that normally would require very time consuming methods of jointing them together.</i>
Like bolts? Drill two holes and you are done. (Drilling through steel is easy and learning how takes a lot less work than hiring a guy to help you heave your thing through a thread wrapping machine.)comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5086772Sun, 14 Jul 2013 02:53:00 -0800DUBy: seanmpuckett
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5086845
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Yjpu64Y_oc">Video of the shoelace braider at the St Louis museum</a>.
I looked at the carbon fiber braiders and thought, damn, cool future tech awesome robot machine, but the shoelace machine was made in 1870 and uses the same technique of alternately roving spools. So cool!comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5086845Sun, 14 Jul 2013 05:13:22 -0800seanmpuckettBy: ishrinkmajeans
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5086952
I thought it was really cool.
There's other things you could do with it that would make it more structurally sound. Like coating all the odd threads with compound A and all the even threads with compound B that are the two parts you mix to get superglue (or at least the stuff at Home Depot comes that way).
There are probably plastic materials out there that will bond and melt together under heat and pressure and be strong in the end. I'm thinking this would be really fun to do with different colors of saran wrap cord (just aim a couple blowdriers into the middle where the thing is getting wrapped to melt it together - it would give a cool tie dye effect!)comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5086952Sun, 14 Jul 2013 06:46:55 -0800ishrinkmajeansBy: Jpfed
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5086981
Man, the Lilliputians are going to love this!comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5086981Sun, 14 Jul 2013 07:03:56 -0800JpfedBy: Ivan Fyodorovich
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5087004
<i>"Like coating all the odd threads with compound A and all the even threads with compound B that are the two parts you mix to get superglue (or at least the stuff at Home Depot comes that way)."</i>
That's not superglue. You're probably thinking of an epoxy. Superglue is cyanoacrylate and water (vapor in the air, or notably on skin) is the curing agent.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5087004Sun, 14 Jul 2013 07:26:05 -0800Ivan FyodorovichBy: ishrinkmajeans
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5087047
Ok epoxy then.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5087047Sun, 14 Jul 2013 07:57:42 -0800ishrinkmajeansBy: mule98J
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5087058
I can attest to the underlying theory (string, as binders). I once sat around my campfire and repaired the wooden tree of a pack saddle, using a 30' length of suspension line--alternating half-hitches all along the break. One of the bars on the tree was cracked when Jasper the Flying Mule decided to roll over with it on his back. The repair was solid, and I used that saddle for years before I finally sold it.
I still have fun playing with strings and strips of leather.
Good on these guys for coming up with something that's fun to watch, as well as...um...having some possible practical applications.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5087058Sun, 14 Jul 2013 08:02:44 -0800mule98JBy: backseatpilot
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5087191
They're about two steps away from reinventing fiberglass, it looks like.
Makers are going to need to start hiring interns to do lit review pretty soon.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5087191Sun, 14 Jul 2013 09:42:48 -0800backseatpilotBy: sonascope
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5087238
It's like a clockwork <a href="http://www.avam.org/our-visionaries/judith-scott.shtml">Judith Scott</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5087238Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:08:43 -0800sonascopeBy: b1tr0t
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5087315
<blockquote>Makers are going to need to start hiring interns to do lit review pretty soon. </blockquote>
No joke. The guys who make sails for America's Cup boats and other highly competitive racing have some interesting patents in place covering processes for manufacturing resin impregnated textiles that have been formed into specific shapes.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5087315Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:55:46 -0800b1tr0tBy: elizardbits
http://www.metafilter.com/129970/Earplugs-and-PVA-Glue#5087644
If they can make this work with string cheese they will be billionaires.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.129970-5087644Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:10:45 -0800elizardbits
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