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http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders
<a href="http://dailypicksandflicks.com/2013/10/27/snls-wes-anderson-parody-movie-trailer-the-midnight-coterie-of-sinister-intruders-video/">Wes Anderson's The Midnight Coterie of Sinister Intruders</a> Last night Ed Norton hosted Saturday Night Live, and this short film trailer parody was the standout. <br /><br /><a href="http://www.metafilter.com/111564/What-kind-of-bird-are-you">Previously</a>, and <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/51218/Short-Commercial-Sellout">before that</a>, and before <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/43746/The-O-Factor-Was-Owen-Wison-Responsible-for-the-Wes-Anderson-Phenom">that</a>.post:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:20:08 -0800Iris GambolSNLSaturdayNightLiveEdNortonAlecBaldwinWesAndersonOwenWilsonShortFilmTrailerPreviewParodyHorrorSpoofTweeEdwardNortonBy: Think_Long
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259243
Weapons: Picture of Edith Piaf. Assault rifle. Little flag.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259243Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:29:02 -0800Think_LongBy: Solon and Thanks
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259244
So funny. Shocked there were no Bill Murray references.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259244Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:29:08 -0800Solon and ThanksBy: Tomorrowful
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259245
Speaking as a Wes Anderson fan: yes. Exactly this.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259245Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:30:14 -0800TomorrowfulBy: xingcat
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259247
I would watch that movie 100 times.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259247Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:31:03 -0800xingcatBy: Rustic Etruscan
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259269
I see.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259269Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:38:03 -0800Rustic EtruscanBy: Sys Rq
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259273
They missed an opportunity to tie in <em>The Addams Family</em> (or <em>The Witches</em>) in some way re: Anjelica Huston.
Also, I'm saddened that they didn't use <a href="http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/156535-SNL_Tries_Penile_Implant.php">this prosthetic proboscis</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259273Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:39:25 -0800Sys RqBy: aspo
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259278
I too would watch the hell out of that movie.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259278Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:41:08 -0800aspoBy: gagglezoomer
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259282
The New York Times calls it "You had me at Wes Anderson."comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259282Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:43:04 -0800gagglezoomerBy: Nelson
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259284
That was hilarious.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259284Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:43:38 -0800NelsonBy: Rustic Etruscan
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259295
Main nitpick: Kind of weak to directly refer to <em>The Royal Tenenbaums</em> like that. The stationery joke was much better.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259295Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:47:23 -0800Rustic EtruscanBy: ColdChef
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259306
All morning long, my wife and I have been looking at each other and saying, "Da fuh?"comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259306Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:49:59 -0800ColdChefBy: ColdChef
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259309
Also: <a href="http://www.fangoria.com/new/review-wes-andersons-the-midnight-coterie-of-sinister-intruders/">read the Fangoria review!</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259309Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:50:54 -0800ColdChefBy: bibliowench
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259331
I noticed a lack of Bill Murray too. Is there any sort of bad blood between him and Lorne Michaels? Or do they just not have a cast member who can do a good Bill Murray?comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259331Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:57:32 -0800bibliowenchBy: zbsachs
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259336
Rustic Etruscan: <em>Main nitpick: Kind of weak to directly refer to The Royal Tenenbaums like that. The stationery joke was much better.</em>
Yeah, and wouldn't it be funnier to find Wes Andersony songs that he didn't already use.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259336Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:57:47 -0800zbsachsBy: maryr
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259347
I feel like they could have tied Wes Craven in a bit more directly.
(Or better yet, <a href="http://kanyewesanderson.tumblr.com/page/2">Kanye Wes Anderson</a>.)comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259347Sun, 27 Oct 2013 11:01:09 -0800maryrBy: Chocolate Pickle
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259461
They also <a href="http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2013/10/27/saturday-night-live-mocks-obamacare-website-n1732372">mocked the ACA rollout fiasco</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259461Sun, 27 Oct 2013 11:42:02 -0800Chocolate PickleBy: kimota
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259473
What's the song that starts just before the NYT and Fangoria bit?comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259473Sun, 27 Oct 2013 11:45:45 -0800kimotaBy: Brocktoon
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259516
Townhall.com (which I guess I've never heard of) takes itself a wee bit too seriously. SNL is not liberal propaganda.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259516Sun, 27 Oct 2013 12:08:22 -0800BrocktoonBy: dephlogisticated
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259533
Needs a pan shot of people determinedly walking and talking.
I was going to say it needed some precocious children, but then two showed up.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259533Sun, 27 Oct 2013 12:15:40 -0800dephlogisticatedBy: onlyconnect
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259546
Dear SNL:
I so enjoyed this and "We Did Stop (the government)." I thought when Andy Samberg left your preproduced digital shorts would not be as funny, but these have been FANTASTIC. More, please!
A fancomment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259546Sun, 27 Oct 2013 12:26:17 -0800onlyconnectBy: Bwithh
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259695
<em>Shocked there were no Bill Murray references.
posted by Solon and Thanks at 10:29 AM on October 27 [4 favorites +] [!]</em>
I thought the Alex Baldwin thing at the end was a Murray gag (contrast the alpha male characters Alex is most wellknown for - the corporate exec from 30Rock and the successful salesman from Glengarry Glen Ross with Murray's typical "lovable loser" character these days). I agree it's weird that there wasn't muchcomment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259695Sun, 27 Oct 2013 14:19:41 -0800BwithhBy: Bwithh
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259697
<em>Kind of weak to directly refer to The Royal Tenenbaums like that</em>
Yeah, not enough confidence in the audiencecomment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259697Sun, 27 Oct 2013 14:20:51 -0800BwithhBy: Windigo
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259720
Oh man, now my ultimate film dream, other than Tilda Swinton playing the Doctor in Doctor Who, is Tilda Swinton in a Wes Anderson horror movie.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259720Sun, 27 Oct 2013 14:38:05 -0800WindigoBy: one_bean
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259744
<em>I thought the Alex Baldwin thing at the end was a Murray gag (contrast the alpha male characters Alex is most wellknown for - the corporate exec from 30Rock and the successful salesman from Glengarry Glen Ross with Murray's typical "lovable loser" character these days).</em>
Baldwin was the narrator in The Royal Tenenbaums.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259744Sun, 27 Oct 2013 14:53:06 -0800one_beanBy: jetsetsc
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259800
Nice, but not as nice as <a href="http://teamcoco.com/video/wes-anderson-star-wars-episode-vii-audition-tape">Conan's WA Star Wars audition.</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259800Sun, 27 Oct 2013 15:25:27 -0800jetsetscBy: wobh
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259811
This is the time of year I like to fantasize about Wes Anderson's <cite>Herbert West: Re-animator</cite>. It's perfect material for him: the academic setting (Bill Murray as Dean Halsey), the precocious lunatic, the hapless sidekick, the existential angst, the obsessive details. Just add eldritch horror. I'd laugh, I'd cry, I'd curl up whimpering and shivering in the corner. It'd be great!comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259811Sun, 27 Oct 2013 15:28:29 -0800wobhBy: naju
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259835
Isn't Wes Anderson just his own self-contained parody at this point? I haven't seen his new trailer yet but I assume it doubles as a very astute Wes Anderson joke.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259835Sun, 27 Oct 2013 15:50:36 -0800najuBy: EmGeeJay
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259841
<em>I haven't seen his new trailer yet but I assume it doubles as a very astute Wes Anderson joke.</em>
Three different aspect ratios.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259841Sun, 27 Oct 2013 15:55:08 -0800EmGeeJayBy: Lipstick Thespian
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259893
I loved how they NAILED the stutter-step, drive-a-truck-through-the-beat, inability of the characters to sound normal when talking to each other.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259893Sun, 27 Oct 2013 16:46:34 -0800Lipstick ThespianBy: lunasol
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I agree that this was a little too on-the-nose with the Royal Tenenbaums references, like they just said "what if we put all this Royal Tenenbaums stuff in a horror movie?" Which is a shame, because as a Wes Anderson fangirl, it's easy to imagine what a Wes Anderson Halloween movie would be like: ghost stories somewhere between Victoriana and mid century dispair, precious costumes, kids bravely fighting monsters once they realized their parents wouldn't be up to the task ... it writes itself! And then at that point, you just have to turn the absurdity up by like 10% to be a successful parody.
Instead, this felt like one of those lame parody movies where literally all they do is reference the hit movie, and that's supposed to be the parody.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259896Sun, 27 Oct 2013 16:48:35 -0800lunasolBy: vytae
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It's weird that you guys think this is too Royal Tenenbaums. I've seen Moonrise Kingdom much more recently than RT, and to me this felt like 90% MK references.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259924Sun, 27 Oct 2013 17:19:02 -0800vytaeBy: ckape
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259931
I enjoyed the Halloween candy bit at the end of the show, probably more than I should have.
These are razor blades <b>but they're still in the pack so this time they'll have to arrest me for generosity.</b>comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259931Sun, 27 Oct 2013 17:26:26 -0800ckapeBy: Ian A.T.
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259934
<em>Baldwin was the narrator in The Royal Tenenbaums.</em>
Oh man, I embarrassed myself at a party back when just the trailer was first out by insisting--INSISTING--it was Joe Frank. This was of course before smartphones, back when looking something up online basically meant going into the bedroom and starting up your PC.
I was like five minutes into a monologue about great Joe Frank was, and how wonderful it was that he was getting attention like this and how maybe it would lead to a wider audience, and so on, when a friend's date deadpanned (quite Margot Tennenbaumishly, come think of it) "It's Alec Baldwin."
That shut me up. What could you say? Even without having seen the trailer for over a week, it was so immediately apparent to everyone that OF COURSE it was Alec Baldwin, how could it not be, that I just trailed off with "Yeah, you should check joe Frank's stuff out, I don't know when it's on these days, maybe Napster has some mp3s..." then pretended to go to the restroom but I really did the French Goodbye out the back door.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259934Sun, 27 Oct 2013 17:29:18 -0800Ian A.T.By: kenko
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259941
Seriously though Joe Frank is great.
Though he doesn't really sound like Alec Baldwin at all.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259941Sun, 27 Oct 2013 17:39:15 -0800kenkoBy: mrzarquon
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5259996
This is delightful.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5259996Sun, 27 Oct 2013 18:48:24 -0800mrzarquonBy: jburka
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5260061
I turned to my husband just after that aired and asked, "Is it wrong that I desperately want to see that movie?"comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5260061Sun, 27 Oct 2013 19:51:36 -0800jburkaBy: dephlogisticated
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5260088
Bill Murray plays a middle-aged orthodontist and bird call aficionado that lives alone in the house next door. He comes to investigate in his pajamas when he hears the screaming. Murray's character is well-spoken but has a few mild personality flaws and an inner core of quiet despair. After joining up with the hiding family, he ends up saving one of the main characters with a makeshift suture made from dental floss. Although the incident is minor, it makes him feels useful and important for the first time in years. In the final scene, during the pan across the remaining characters, Murray is shown teaching an orthodontic procedure to one of the children using her stuffed animal as the patient.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5260088Sun, 27 Oct 2013 20:32:49 -0800dephlogisticatedBy: ReeMonster
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5260103
Boy, it's like pulling teeth to get SNL audiences to laugh these days! Or wait... It must have something to do with the level of the comedy. This was, umm, sort of funny? They nailed some stuff. But wow, the ONLY good impersonation in this sketch was by Ed Norton! Who the hell are these cast members anyway? Terrible.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5260103Sun, 27 Oct 2013 20:49:27 -0800ReeMonsterBy: Ghostride The Whip
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5260105
I also would see this movie, if only because Ed Norton doing an extended Owen Wilson impression would crack me up.
And also because I would listen to Alec Baldwin read the phone book.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5260105Sun, 27 Oct 2013 20:50:24 -0800Ghostride The WhipBy: Artw
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5260150
A little Moonrise Kingdom heavy, especially in the soundtrack. Then again, it IS the most Wes Andersonyesque thing ever.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5260150Sun, 27 Oct 2013 22:06:33 -0800ArtwBy: anazgnos
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5260186
<em>What's the song that starts just before the NYT and Fangoria bit?</em>
I keep googling snatches of the lyrics (""...says she loves me/but something feels all wrong/I can sense it in her kisses/that this won't be lasting long") but there are zero results. Starting to think it was made just for this.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5260186Sun, 27 Oct 2013 23:00:25 -0800anazgnosBy: Artw
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5260196
Okay, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fg5iWmQjwk">this</a> may end up being more Wes Andersony than Moonrise Kingdom.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5260196Sun, 27 Oct 2013 23:24:11 -0800ArtwBy: dhartung
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5260201
<em>SNL is not liberal propaganda.</em>
You don't understand. Anything <strong>not actually written by, and starring actual Tea Party members</strong> is liberal propaganda. It also may be liberal propaganda if it fails to include focus-group-tested-as-hilarious jokes about the fatness of Al Gore and/or Michael Moore.
I loved this and yes, I would watch this movie. I regret feeling that he hasn't really had a home run since Rushmore and Royal Tenenbaums, though I did enjoy Moonrise Kingdom a lot -- but I have high hopes for Grand Budapest Hotel.
<em>But wow, the ONLY good impersonation in this sketch was by Ed Norton!</em>
Nah, the impersonation of Gwyneth Paltrow playing a non-speaking, smoking part was frighteningly good. But then...
Anyway, I really want to give props to the production designers, as well as camera work and editing -- it was all perfect. It would have been so easy to skimp on (and believe me, I'm watching Season 3 right now, and I suspect the budget for this would have covered that whole year), but they even <em>got Futura right</em>. Especially that one shot when Owen says "Hey, kids, let's go to the panic room!" and you get a pan showing this is a fully-realized <em>multi-room set</em>. What a labor of love. Also, Adrien Brody in a closet full of antique typewriters.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5260201Sun, 27 Oct 2013 23:26:40 -0800dhartungBy: Artw
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5260204
I thought the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZwsozPPSqg">Girls</a> sketch was pretty funny, so that's two funny things from SNL in a month. End times.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5260204Sun, 27 Oct 2013 23:34:19 -0800ArtwBy: holist
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5260218
The "link for outside US" bit is a classy touch. Thanks.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5260218Mon, 28 Oct 2013 00:19:47 -0800holistBy: odinsdream
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5260291
I would watch the shit out of that movie. But, I totally loved Moonrise Kingdom, with all of my heart.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5260291Mon, 28 Oct 2013 05:06:35 -0800odinsdreamBy: Mchelly
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5260370
I would totally see that movie. Plus I am choosing to believe that Bill Murray is in it, and that he is actually the Falcon guy, and the joke is on us that we didn't realize it.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5260370Mon, 28 Oct 2013 07:18:14 -0800MchellyBy: Steely-eyed Missile Man
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5260375
<em>I regret feeling that he hasn't really had a home run since Rushmore and Royal Tenenbaums</em>
That's weird. It's almost like you haven't seen his best film, the Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou.
Royal Tenenbaums is pretty overrated.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5260375Mon, 28 Oct 2013 07:26:44 -0800Steely-eyed Missile ManBy: Legomancer
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5260379
<i>That's weird. It's almost like you haven't seen his best film, the Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou.
Royal Tenenbaums is pretty overrated.</i>
Man, I haven't been to Wrongtown in ages. They still got that coffee shop there?comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5260379Mon, 28 Oct 2013 07:30:35 -0800LegomancerBy: onlyconnect
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5260435
<i>SNL is not liberal propaganda.
You don't understand. Anything not written by, and starring actual tea party members is liberal propaganda.</i>
C'mon! SNL kind of <i>is</i> liberal propaganda! Hey, I'm a Democrat, too, but you don't see that many SNL sketches that glorify the 1% and take their POV. The most damage SNL sketches usually do to liberals is mock their incompetence or sincerity (eg., Obamacare rollout, Hillary sketches). But if I were a conservative I can only imagine how appalled and offended I would be by the "We Did Stop (the Government)" sketch that depicted Boehner as a closet bisexual crossdresser and Bachman as a slutty masturbating exhibitionist at an orgy with someone dressed as Uncle Sam!
But <a href="http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2012/05/lorne-michaels-says-saturday-night-live-is-not-partisan-lorne-michaels-is-wrong/">this article</a> for example notes that most of the writers and cast are liberal so they will naturally gravitate to jokes that mock conservatives:
<small><i>Past cast members like Dennis Miller, Victoria Jackson, and apparently Jon Lovitz notwithstanding, the cast of "SNL" typically swings liberal. Liberals have an easier time making fun of conservatives because they believe it, ergo the natural inclination is to poke fun at conservatives instead of making fun of themselves because self-deprecation typically doesn't work in satire because there's just too many layers for our small brains to process. . . .
So why did Lorne Michaels choose the Fox and Friends skit instead of the Obama skit? Because he thought it was funnier. Why did he think it was funnier? Because he's a liberal. Ask a conservative, and I guarandamntee you that he would find the Obama skit funnier, even if Fred Armisen is the worst Obama impersonator on the planet. </i></small>
I think SNL jokes veer liberal more often than not, and frankly I enjoy it that way. Remember the brilliant <a href="http://www.hulu.com/watch/34465">Palin/Clinton sketch</a>? I'm not going to pretend it didn't take a side -- it's the same side the cast members took, and me too. I'm not going to pretend it's not.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5260435Mon, 28 Oct 2013 08:17:48 -0800onlyconnectBy: Think_Long
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5260452
But propaganda is a very specific form of communication - it has to have a clear intent and agenda of influence. Just because SNL has a liberal perspective does not make it propaganda.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5260452Mon, 28 Oct 2013 08:31:04 -0800Think_LongBy: tonycpsu
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5260685
<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5260435">onlyconnect</a>: "<i> I think SNL jokes veer liberal more often than not, and frankly I enjoy it that way. Remember the brilliant Palin/Clinton sketch? I'm not going to pretend it didn't take a side -- it's the same side the cast members took, and me too. I'm not going to pretend it's not.</i>"
There's no disputing that there are more liberals in show business, and therefore more liberals on SNL, but your example is only "liberal" in the "reality has a well-known liberal bias" sense. Hillary Clinton, whatever you think of her politics, is objectively a brilliant woman with a distinguished political career, whereas Sarah Palin was, and is, a total fucking dope who couldn't finish a full term as Alaska's governor. Using parody to even the score would be comedic malpractice, and would come off as clumsy and contrived given the amount of pure-strain comedy gold Palin supplied on a regular basis.
Plus, when you have to make exceptions for Jon Lovitz, Dennis Miller, and Victoria Jackson, there's a certain "but what about the play, Mrs. Lincoln?" quality to your analysis. Yes, we have Senator Al Franken, but after him, you basically have garden variety Hollywood liberals who might be politically active for a cause that means something to them, but aren't interested in being part of the political pundit class. Meanwhile, Lovitz, Jackson, and of course Miller are frequent Fox News visitors. I mean, when is the last time you saw MSNBC checking in to see what Adam Sandler or Will Ferrell think about politics?comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5260685Mon, 28 Oct 2013 10:43:35 -0800tonycpsuBy: Solon and Thanks
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5261104
<i>Royal Tenenbaums is pretty overrated.</i>
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/yZAMwsR.gif">PREACH.</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5261104Mon, 28 Oct 2013 14:38:17 -0800Solon and ThanksBy: kliuless
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5261543
<i>Isn't Wes Anderson just his own self-contained parody at this point? I haven't seen his new trailer yet but I assume it doubles as a very astute Wes Anderson joke.</i>
<i>Okay, this may end up being more Wes Andersony than Moonrise Kingdom.</i>
<a href="http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/10/22/the-consistent-quirkiness-of-wes-anderson/">The Self-Parody Of Wes Anderson</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5261543Mon, 28 Oct 2013 22:14:29 -0800kliulessBy: Lipstick Thespian
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5261738
" Increasingly, everything, even works of art, feel like really good BuzzFeed posts: Charming, satisfying, and completely self-contained." (from the Self-Parody linked above.)
This describes the entirety of Wes Anderson's work perfectly. I feel like if you've seen one of his films, there's zero need to see any others unless you just need to press a Wes Anderson Style Lever down in your brain somewhere occasionally. He's not going to break any new ground anytime soon.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5261738Tue, 29 Oct 2013 07:05:55 -0800Lipstick ThespianBy: maryr
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5262124
But I love cutaway shots!comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5262124Tue, 29 Oct 2013 10:02:48 -0800maryrBy: Doktor Zed
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5273162
<i>Anyway, I really want to give props to the production designers, as well as camera work and editing -- it was all perfect. It would have been so easy to skimp on (and believe me, I'm watching Season 3 right now, and I suspect the budget for this would have covered that whole year), but they even got Futura right. Especially that one shot when Owen says "Hey, kids, let's go to the panic room!" and you get a pan showing this is a fully-realized multi-room set. What a labor of love.</i>
That it was, to judge from <a href="http://www.alex-buono.com/how-we-did-it-snl-the-midnight-coterie-of-sinister-intruders/">this terrific account of its making</a> by the SNL Film Unit's DP. The film unit found a location (the disused former home of a Naval surgeon at the Brooklyn Navy Yard), chose the color palette (<em>Royal Tenenbaums</em> dark pink, <em>Life Aquatic</em> faded yellow, and <em>Moonrise Kingdom</em> teal), picked the camera lens (40mm anamorphic Hawk V-series, but a non-anamorphic Optimo 24-290mm for the the binocular-POV shots), rigged the set lights (2k open face bounced off <em>un</em>bleached muslin), and called in a favor from Paul Simon to use "Me and Julio" on the soundtrack.
For all intents and purposes, this is a Wes Anderson short film.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5273162Tue, 05 Nov 2013 15:15:59 -0800Doktor ZedBy: odinsdream
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5273326
Holy Shit that debrief was amazing!comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5273326Tue, 05 Nov 2013 17:08:35 -0800odinsdreamBy: Iris Gambol
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5273451
<em>What's the song that starts just before the NYT and Fangoria bit?
posted by kimota at 2:45 PM on October 27</em>
Answered in <strong>Doktor Zed</strong>'s neat link above:
<em>Wes Anderson's music scores are just as iconic and signature as his art direction and I'm amazed at how well Rhys and Adam nailed the tone. They managed to combine the Kinks-dominant British-invasion sound of "Rushmore", the twee classical notes of "Tenenbaums" and the percussive sound of "Life Aquatic" and "Moonrise Kingdom" — using only library tracks (with the exception of "Me and Julio" by SNL-pal, Paul Simon).</em>comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5273451Tue, 05 Nov 2013 18:28:48 -0800Iris GambolBy: Iris Gambol
http://www.metafilter.com/133256/Wes-Andersons-The-Midnight-Coterie-of-Sinister-Intruders#5274038
Man, I was tired. Also meant to include a link to the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHv4xCgAByA&feature=youtube_gdata">song</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2013:site.133256-5274038Wed, 06 Nov 2013 08:06:37 -0800Iris Gambol
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