Comments on: Guaranteed fondant-free http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free/ Comments on MetaFilter post Guaranteed fondant-free Thu, 10 Jul 2014 15:56:14 -0800 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 15:56:14 -0800 en-us http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 Guaranteed fondant-free http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free <a href="http://www.yumsugar.com/Naked-Wedding-Cakes-35182677">Naked Wedding Cakes Bare It All For the Summer.</a> <blockquote>Gone are the days when hot Summer weather makes icing drip down your wedding cake! Naked cakes — the trendy cakes that are mostly unfrosted — are great for warmer outdoor weddings and add a simple, elegant style to any sweet spread. By layering the cake and using a minimal amount of frosting, mainly to stick layers together or add a decorative touch, these wedding desserts offer a light sweetness in each bite. If you think that less icing means your cake will lack flair, then add fruity or flowery touches to accent the frosting and flavor. Check out these naked cakes below for inspiration!</blockquote> post:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 15:52:44 -0800 Lexica JulyByWomen cakes baking weddingcakes frosting dessert By: ian1977 http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632075 "Give the cake a vintage vibe with cool ticket toppers like these. " - eyeroll snort. But I'm in...cuz cake. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632075 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 15:56:14 -0800 ian1977 By: ian1977 http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632077 "Succulents are way in right now — and they aren't just for hipster wedding cakes. For a rustic, outdoorsy feel, top off your naked dessert with a variety of the plants. " Get your fucking cactus off my cake! Are you insane??????? comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632077 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 15:56:56 -0800 ian1977 By: leotrotsky http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632084 As one who prefers frosting in moderation, I applaud this direction. That said, a coating of frosting helps seal the cake and keep it fresh, these cakes must go almost insta-stale. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632084 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 15:58:59 -0800 leotrotsky By: ian1977 http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632085 I thought that too leotrotsky, but what about tres leches cake? That stuff has to stay moist forever comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632085 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:01:12 -0800 ian1977 By: clavicle http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632087 Post title is everything. Fuck a fondant. <small>I know I know do not literally fuck a fondant</small> comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632087 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:03:09 -0800 clavicle By: CBrachyrhynchos http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632093 As founder and one of the only members of the cupcake-frosting-disarmament-movement, I approve. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632093 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:07:34 -0800 CBrachyrhynchos By: lonefrontranger http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632094 god yes fondant can go die in a fire. that said, I agree that you need to pick your cake base very carefully because the flip side of frosting melting and running down the plate is the guests choking on stale, dry crusts. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632094 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:08:25 -0800 lonefrontranger By: 2bucksplus http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632099 I think it's time to embrace the wedding pie. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632099 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:12:07 -0800 2bucksplus By: jb http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632102 None of those cakes are fruit cake. The problem is solved by having a <em>proper</em> wedding cake: fruitcake with almond paste and royal icing. Perfect - and (if the icing is sealed) the top layer lasts for a year for your anniversary. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632102 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:13:51 -0800 jb By: winna http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632103 CBrachyrhynchos I yearn to join your movement for I too remember the golden days of our ancestors when a cuppycake was 90% cake/10% frosting and not the reverse. Do we have a jaunty hymn or something? comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632103 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:14:07 -0800 winna By: jetlagaddict http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632106 I'm pretty sure our bakery was staffed with wizards because the freaking fondant was not only tasty day-of, it was actually palatable and sweet a month and a half later, on straight-out-of the-freezer cake. To be honest these cakes only seem like a good idea if there's a stash of dixie cups with the poor, abandoned, leftover frosting for peasants like me who require substantially higher buttercream:cake ratios, but, oh well, cake! comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632106 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:15:44 -0800 jetlagaddict By: jetlagaddict http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632109 <em>Perfect - and (if the icing is sealed) the top layer lasts for a year for your anniversary.</em> So, I get this tradition, and the British (?) variant where you eat it at the christening of the firstborn or whatever, but WHO HAS THAT MUCH SELF CONTROL? We definitely didn't have half a cake left and it definitely made it past a month and a half in the freezer. Definitely a factual story made of truths. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632109 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:17:23 -0800 jetlagaddict By: clockzero http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632111 So wait Let me get this straight It's cake, but with <em>less frosting? On some sides?</em> Who discovered this? How can this be real comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632111 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:18:01 -0800 clockzero By: feckless fecal fear mongering http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632114 I am in favour of anything that lessens our international fondant nightmare and the fucking stupid FN (and now other networks FFS) cake trends that have been foisted upon us. That said, I've seen a bunch of these cakes and none, to my mind, have the formality expected at a formal wedding. For an informal wedding, sure, but they miss the mark at a traditional ceremony. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632114 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:19:30 -0800 feckless fecal fear mongering By: inthe80s http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632117 Personally I think the frosting should come as a "side" for some naked cake skinny dippin' comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632117 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:22:49 -0800 inthe80s By: nonasuch http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632118 Psst! Important life hack for cupcakes with too much frosting: Remove cupcake wrapper; break off bottom half of cupcake. Deposit half of giant frosting mound on it (helps to have a knife, but can be done with fingers if one is determined). Enjoy two smaller cupcakes, each with a reasonable amount of frosting. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632118 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:23:31 -0800 nonasuch By: Morrigan http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632119 I am emphatically not a pastry chef but I am pro-icing, anti-fondant. Fondant takes skill, sure, but seems like non-tasty cheating, just one step removed from fake window cakes. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632119 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:24:00 -0800 Morrigan By: Turkey Glue http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632122 <em>Gone are the days when hot Summer weather makes icing drip down your wedding cake!</em> But won't the layered frosting melt and cause the cake to wobble into individual discs not unlike painful slipped vertebrae? comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632122 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:27:03 -0800 Turkey Glue By: Horace Rumpole http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632131 Can I have the frosting you're not using? Here, I'll open my mouth to make it easy for you--just spoon it right in. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632131 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:31:57 -0800 Horace Rumpole By: feckless fecal fear mongering http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632133 Stacked cakes virtually always have a wooden dowel down the centre to prevent this sort of thing. (Unless done in the traditional British style as alluded to above, of which I have vivid memories from when I was a kid and hated fruit cake. Loooooooooooooooved marzipan and royal icing though...) comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632133 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:32:49 -0800 feckless fecal fear mongering By: The Whelk http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632134 ...okay I read this too fast and got all excited for this brave new world of erotic wedding cakes. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632134 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:32:56 -0800 The Whelk By: dawg-proud http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632135 CBrachyrhynchos I, too want to join your movement for the frosting race has reached ridiculous levels. There is a local cupcake shop that was the one to move up from the one shop location and man the amount of frosting is crazy, way too much to even create two reasonable cupcakes. There is so much frosting the cupcakes tip over on a plate. I am just glad I'm not alone. Though I did feel some of those unfrosted cakes just looked...sad, but I applaud the effort. Ha - Horace Rumpole, here you go... comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632135 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:33:12 -0800 dawg-proud By: dawg-proud http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632139 Oh man, I knew that local shop I mentioned had expanded, but I just looked up their website out of curiosity and they are EVERYWHERE! How? Why? Well, if you're looked for a 70% frosting/30% cake cupcake just look for the franchise out of Nashville. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632139 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:37:56 -0800 dawg-proud By: dejah420 http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632141 I'm not a real baker, but I play one for friends. I've made a couple of formal wedding cakes; for one I used a homemade marshmallow fondant, which I have to tell you guys, is amazeballs. (Commercial fondant? That stuff is nasty. I only use it for sculpting things which are not meant to be eaten, but which can still be considered edible when a 4 year old snatches it off the cake.) These cakes are really pretty, and would be fine for a garden wedding, or another informal setting, but everyone is right...they'd go stale before the vows had been spoken. The entire point of a crumbcoat of icing is to stop the cake from going stale. The reason fondant is layered over that in most commercial bakeries is both as an airlock, and because fondant is the fastest, easiest way to get a smooth, seamless finish. It's tricky to go back over a crumbcoat with more buttercream because you can start peeling off the "skin" of the cake itself...leading to total cake failure. (Or in my kitchen: cakeballs!) comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632141 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:39:00 -0800 dejah420 By: Iris Gambol http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632144 If any one of these naked cakes made an appearance at a wedding in my family, half the people in attendance would break their necks running to tell the bride that the baker had fucked up. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632144 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:40:49 -0800 Iris Gambol By: psoas http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632152 Naked?! Won't somebody please think of the children! <small>They love frosting.</small> comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632152 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:42:27 -0800 psoas By: jetlagaddict http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632153 <em>I think it's time to embrace the wedding pie.</em> Don't worry, it's already happening. Along with the wedding whoopie pies, mini pies, mason jar pies, macarons, fake cakes in the front/sheet cakes, pie bars, paleo cakes and all of them breathlessly written up and explicated in terms of decorum and etiquette and hipster trends and NY Wedding pieces, which, I don't know, I don't really get why because does anyone actually care that deeply about seeing THE ONE TRUE CAKE at weddings? Is the pie a lie? Do they really only enjoy the cake cutting bit if it involves an actual bog standard cake? It's dessert and you get to eat it! Hooray! Mazel tov! comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632153 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:42:56 -0800 jetlagaddict By: Metroid Baby http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632158 I am firmly pro-frosting, the more the better. I would eat an all-frosting wedding cake if it could be made. (It has to be decent frosting, but that's a given.) That said, I'd still much rather have a naked cake than one with fondant. Fondant cakes are the dessert equivalent of Jay Gatsby's library full of books with uncut pages, and they taste about the same. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632158 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:43:18 -0800 Metroid Baby By: joseph conrad is fully awesome http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632160 Marzipan is fantastic and should replace fondant. I quite like the topper on this one: <a href="http://www.yumsugar.com/photo-gallery/35182693/Bunting-Layering">comical and full of whimsy</a>. Can't say I like this trend, though: they all look like "Austerity cakes". comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632160 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:43:37 -0800 joseph conrad is fully awesome By: joseph conrad is fully awesome http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632166 (I like this post, though. Any cake-related FPP is a great FPP.) comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632166 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:48:28 -0800 joseph conrad is fully awesome By: angerbot http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632169 I like that cake with the bunting. Little cake sails. This cake's coming into your harbour. You cannot stop it. Dread pirate cake. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632169 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:49:55 -0800 angerbot By: offalark http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632173 I tried (four years ago) to have a wedding pie, but was told by our venue that it would fall under the list of foods the venue's kitchen could make, and therefore could not be brought in from outside. So I wound up with a cake. Because no way in hell was I letting the USMC make my wedding pie. Anyway, I got a good cake. And no fondant. Because no good comes from fondant-wrapped cakes. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632173 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:52:55 -0800 offalark By: nadawi http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632174 you can help the crumb coat issue and make it less prone to melting in the sun by freezing the layers, sans frosting, the night before you decorate it. also, the way to deal with all frosted cupcakes is to split them in half and then make a cupcake sandwich out of both halves. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632174 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:52:58 -0800 nadawi By: hades http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632192 <a href="http://gallery.elsewhere.org/d/19413-2/72_M26.jpg">Our wedding cake</a> was delicious and I don't remember there being any problem with staleness. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632192 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 17:07:02 -0800 hades By: small_ruminant http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632197 "Austerity cakes" is right! The only way I could endorse a cake like this is if it were strawberry shortcake served trifle-style in a giant glass container. I also hate fondant but we were talked into some homemade fondant for our wedding cake (because leaves stick to it less than buttercream?) and I have to say it was pretty tasty, and very very thin, so that the other frosting, between the layers, is what you mostly tasted. And fondant does look very pretty. It's not ideal but I learned that there is fondant and then there is fondant. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632197 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 17:09:25 -0800 small_ruminant By: orme http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632208 Somehow, my grandmother will blame this naked cake trend on gay marriage. "You see what happens?!" comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632208 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 17:13:49 -0800 orme By: Pater Aletheias http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632216 <em>I'm not a real baker, but I play one for friends. I've made a couple of formal wedding cakes; for one I used a homemade marshmallow fondant, which I have to tell you guys, is amazeballs. </em> QFT. Marshmallow fondant is easy and <em>delicious</em>. I'm so used to it now, I didn't understand the barrage of anti-fondant comments at first. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632216 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 17:17:35 -0800 Pater Aletheias By: TheWhiteSkull http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632220 Yes, "naked," fine. But what about <a href="http://www.rowsdowr.com/2010/07/12/patrick-stewart-sexy-cakes-snl-sketch-video/">a cake that looks like a woman going to the bathroom</a>? comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632220 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 17:19:38 -0800 TheWhiteSkull By: The Underpants Monster http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632252 Thank you so much for that PStew SNL video. Bits of it have been running through my head for years! I much prefer unfrosted cake myself, but I never expected anything I liked would become trendy in any way. Go figger. I do agree with those who worry that a cake that's destined to sit out for hours runs the risk of drying out. I wonder if that's why so many of these seem to be made of thin layers between moist fillings. At a frosted-cake party I usually just scrape the frosting off. I call baked potatoes "naked potatoes." It was a progression from "baked" to "bakèd" to "naked." comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632252 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 17:37:15 -0800 The Underpants Monster By: CBrachyrhynchos http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632270 There are plenty of pastries stuffed full of creamy and sugary goodness. I like some cake with my cake. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632270 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 17:47:02 -0800 CBrachyrhynchos By: feckless fecal fear mongering http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632289 <i>Marzipan is fantastic and should replace fondant.</i> For those of us with nut allergies (seriously, my allergist asked me how the hell I was alive after telling me I'm allergic to all tree nuts), that would present a sad, delicious problem: how to eat the marzipan gracefully whilst keeping the epi-pen ready in the other hand. And yeah, echoing nadawi's advice. The crumb coat is just the undercoating which prevents crumbs getting through to the real layer of frosting. Most wedding cakes (unless you're using <s>cardboard</s> fondant) are a two- or three-day process to make. Overnight chilling is essential. Day 1) bake, cool, crumb-coat, chill or freeze overnight. Day 2) full frosting coat, chill or freeze overnight. Day 3) detailing with piping etc, then usually deliver day 4. Or so says a friend of mine from school who went into wedding cakery. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632289 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 18:09:30 -0800 feckless fecal fear mongering By: WidgetAlley http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632315 <em> The only way I could endorse a cake like this is if it were strawberry shortcake served trifle-style in a giant glass container.</em> I would be 110% for wedding trifle. Just a big bowl of trifle on every table. Mmmmm, trifle. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632315 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 18:30:44 -0800 WidgetAlley By: blnkfrnk http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632328 To make it worse, you can't do cupcake-sandwich with a super-frosted cupcake that is also one of those with frosting or pudding or whatever stuffed in the middle. Just get a fork, I guess. I seem to recall a conversation with my grandmother about flattop cakes, which are layer cakes with only frosting on the top and between the layers, in order to save the butter, eggs, and sugar ration during the war. Interesting to see this brought back for very hip weddings. I suppose if you served naked cake in a mason jar, it'd be both extra hipster and deal with the stale cake problem. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632328 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 18:36:29 -0800 blnkfrnk By: ovvl http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632370 If this unfrosted Summer cake phase becomes an ongoing thing, then maybe I can help to explain the lyrics to <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/139634/hmmmm#5572843">MacArthur Park</a> to puzzled future generations. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632370 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 19:04:17 -0800 ovvl By: The Underpants Monster http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632377 <i>seriously, my allergist asked me how the hell I was alive after telling me I'm allergic to all tree nuts</i> Derail conversation with my allergist: Allergist: I've got your test results. You're allergic to trees. Monster: Trees? Allergist: Trees. Monster: Which trees? Allergist: Just trees. All of them. Monster: ALL trees? Allergist: Well, not ALL of them really. Monster: Well, that's a relief. Allergist: Just all the ones that grow here in the Northeast. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632377 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 19:08:48 -0800 The Underpants Monster By: gatorae http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632379 I really want to see some PinterestFail versions of these. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632379 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 19:09:59 -0800 gatorae By: BWA http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632409 If this is a means of lowering the insane cost of weddings, I applaud. But I'm suspicious. Applying frosting <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=cake+frosting&client=firefox-a&hs=Hg7&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=8Eu_U5zPLsGgyAS9jYHQCw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1100&bih=425#channel=sb&q=cake%20frosting%20designs&revid=144142459&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&tbm=isch&imgdii=_">is an art</a>. When someone deliberately abandons an art and tries to pass the results off as cutting edge, I suspect incompetence and rip-off. (Which is not to say I would dismiss some of these for other occasions. Summer benefits from lots of fruit.) comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632409 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 19:36:51 -0800 BWA By: Greg Nog http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632411 looks like a pile of damn bread an i'm against it comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632411 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 19:38:38 -0800 Greg Nog By: atropos http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632439 Cake is great, but <a href="http://www.marthastewart.com/339829/croquembouche">croquembouche</a> is where it's really at for a wedding dessert. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632439 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 20:07:37 -0800 atropos By: the man of twists and turns http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632473 <i>Summer benefits from lots of fruit.</i> <a href="http://www.saveur.com/article/Recipes/quatre-quarts-olive-oil-pound-cake">Quatre quarts: olive oil pound cake</a>, one of my favorites comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632473 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 20:36:54 -0800 the man of twists and turns By: lysdexic http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632476 Growing up I always said I wanted a pineapple upside down cake for my wedding. I got overruled on the actual cake, but my grandma did send one for the groom's cake. It was gone before the wedding cake was. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632476 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 20:38:18 -0800 lysdexic By: elizardbits http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632482 Most cakes and cupcakes nowadays appear to be about 1/3 frosting and 2/3 cake. This is an unacceptable frosting distribution. It should be at least 25-75 if not 20-80. If you require more frosting it will of course be available on the side in any quantity you wish free of charge. This shall be law. my totalitarian gynocentric theocracy is gonna be so rad guys comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632482 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 20:46:10 -0800 elizardbits By: The Whelk http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632485 And of course Crumbs, the leader in super frosting cupcakes went bankrupt overnight and closed all thier stores at once and now there is no more Crumbs and one person was ebaying a cupcake they had in the fridge. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632485 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 20:53:15 -0800 The Whelk By: emjaybee http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632495 If I ever get married again it's fried pies for everyone. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632495 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 21:07:41 -0800 emjaybee By: Kadin2048 http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632515 Cookie Table &gt; Wedding Cake comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632515 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 21:24:56 -0800 Kadin2048 By: The Underpants Monster http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632529 My cake is dough on both sides! comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632529 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 21:34:35 -0800 The Underpants Monster By: rabbitrabbit http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632547 These cakes look delicious and I would eat all of them except the blue one. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632547 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 22:06:27 -0800 rabbitrabbit By: Katemonkey http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632635 Yaaaaaaay no frosting! I just hate frosting. I like whipped cream, and that's about all I can take on cakes. Everything else is just why I end up hating cake. I do think all of these would be better if they were shortcake with strawberries and blueberries, however. Because shortcake is where it's at. Also, no frosting means <a href="http://intergalacticprimate.tumblr.com/post/90256761495/take-one-star-wars-ship-cake-silicone-mould-take">perfect <em>Star Wars</em> cakes</a>. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632635 Fri, 11 Jul 2014 02:28:39 -0800 Katemonkey By: Omnomnom http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632665 I had my wedding cake coated in white chocolate instead of fondant. WHITE CHOCOLATE NOM. (YesIknowit'snotrealchocolate.) comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632665 Fri, 11 Jul 2014 03:40:55 -0800 Omnomnom By: empath http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632682 <i>When someone deliberately abandons an art and tries to pass the results off as cutting edge, I suspect incompetence and rip-off. </i> Minimalism is also an artistic aesthetic. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632682 Fri, 11 Jul 2014 04:14:25 -0800 empath By: empath http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632684 <a href="http://www.cakewrecks.com/home/2013/6/21/the-emperors-new-cakes.html">Cake Wrecks has, of course, been there.</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632684 Fri, 11 Jul 2014 04:18:47 -0800 empath By: empath http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632687 And finally: I'm fairly sure this would leave you with a somewhat dried out 'crust' on the outside of the cake, but the inside shouldn't go stale. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632687 Fri, 11 Jul 2014 04:24:22 -0800 empath By: specialagentwebb http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632734 <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632099">2bucksplus</a>: "<i>I think it's time to embrace the wedding pie.</i>" My wedding reception was literally across the street from a pie shop. So when two bakers flaked on us, we ordered 2 dozen pies (a dozen apple, a dozen berry, plus one coconut cream for fancy pie-cutting pictures). People STILL talk about how awesome the pie was, 3 years later. <small>And instead of eating nasty year-old freezer cake on our anniversary, we went and got a fresh lemon meringue.</small> comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632734 Fri, 11 Jul 2014 05:37:00 -0800 specialagentwebb By: elizardbits http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632740 The tradition of "eat this ancient frozen cake X many years later, it's romantic!" is inexplicable to me. If someone wants to tell me they think our love is old and frozen and stale they should say so without involving an innocent cake who has hurt no one and was through no fault of its own forced into dry crumbly tastelessness. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632740 Fri, 11 Jul 2014 05:46:07 -0800 elizardbits By: Lisitasan http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632742 Though it's been around since at least the heyday of the <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/victoriasponge_13555">Victoria Sponge </a>, it should be said that <a href="http://milkbarstore.com/main/press/">Christina Tosi</a> of <a href="http://milkbarstore.com/main/weddings/">Momofuku Milkbar</a> fame made this naked cake cool. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632742 Fri, 11 Jul 2014 05:46:51 -0800 Lisitasan By: St. Peepsburg http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632796 I've never liked the taste or texture of fondant, marzipan and regular frosting but my mouth is not big enough to contain the deliciousness of cream cheese frosting. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632796 Fri, 11 Jul 2014 06:38:11 -0800 St. Peepsburg By: troika http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632818 <em>2bucksplus: "I think it's time to embrace the wedding pie."</em> I went to a wedding recently where the bride hated cake so they had a variety of petit fours, tartlets, and pies. It was wonderful. And no one was weird about it! No one missed cake at all! comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632818 Fri, 11 Jul 2014 06:51:27 -0800 troika By: kmz http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632825 <i>"I think it's time to embrace the wedding pie."</i> <a href="http://www.today.com/id/39831216/ns/today-today_food/t/it-cake-or-pie-its-both-its-calories-slice/">whynotboth.gif</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632825 Fri, 11 Jul 2014 06:55:27 -0800 kmz By: Katemonkey http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632836 We did have a half sheet of pineapple cake for our wedding, which was acceptable, even for someone with a dislike of cake. Buttercream, tropical theme, went well with everything and was highly enjoyable. We did not have nasty year-old freezer cake, because while we were on our honeymoon, my father, who took the cake home with him, decided to eat it. Even as the pineapple was fermenting (due to being in a car for five hours as he drove home from Vegas to L.A.). It was apparently still quite delicious. He might have been drunk at the time. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632836 Fri, 11 Jul 2014 07:04:28 -0800 Katemonkey By: elizardbits http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632865 <em>whynotboth.gif</em> That just seems like an unholy abomination the likes of which could actually break a seal of the apocalypse. All those things are great on their own, why would you combine them? The total of them does not exceed their individual excellence, if anything it detracts from that excellence. IT'S JUST TOO MUCH GOING ON AT ONCE. Instead of a party in your mouth it's a terrible riot. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632865 Fri, 11 Jul 2014 07:24:51 -0800 elizardbits By: Sophie1 http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632893 I think people should be able to do what they want in the privacy of their own weddings. I mean, I'm pretty tolerant and all and I feel like we all have our own tastes but I guess what I'm trying to say is...if someone tries to pull this bullshit at a wedding I am attending I will call. them. out. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632893 Fri, 11 Jul 2014 07:46:37 -0800 Sophie1 By: The Underpants Monster http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632902 <i>My wedding reception was literally across the street from a pie shop.</i> PLEASE tell me you had a <i>Sweeney Todd</i>-themed wedding. I will sleep much better at night believing it. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632902 Fri, 11 Jul 2014 07:50:23 -0800 The Underpants Monster By: SeedStitch http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632926 My husband's cousin is getting married in a fancy-rustic converted barn next month (in a BARN, in AUGUST, what the hell) and I can picture one of these cakes being just the thing for their rusticky mason jar whatever. The one that's "lightly frosted" does look unacceptably unfinished to me, like the baker just gave up after the crumb coat. I'm not crazy about most frostings and I hate fondant so I'd be happy if they did this. I'd be even happier if I didn't have to spend an August afternoon at an outdoor ceremony and then in a barn, but hey. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632926 Fri, 11 Jul 2014 08:02:27 -0800 SeedStitch By: Pirate-Bartender-Zombie-Monkey http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632953 Marzipan, like whiskey, chocolate, Belgian beer, and oral sex, is proof-positive that the Cosmos loves us and wants us to be happy. All-5 <em>en suite</em> would be a pentafecta of luxury and contentment. Mmmmmmm... pentafecta cake! <small>Yes, the Cosmos loves people w Nut allergies too. But mutants happen.</small> comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632953 Fri, 11 Jul 2014 08:14:07 -0800 Pirate-Bartender-Zombie-Monkey By: feckless fecal fear mongering http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632982 So what you're saying is you want to eat marzipan bonbons while drinking Belgian boilermakers and having someone go down on you? comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632982 Fri, 11 Jul 2014 08:30:12 -0800 feckless fecal fear mongering By: thereemix http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632991 I'll sign up for that, feckless. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5632991 Fri, 11 Jul 2014 08:36:36 -0800 thereemix By: Pirate-Bartender-Zombie-Monkey http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5633000 Well, yes. Or be going down on someone enjoying the same. Though I was actually imagineing a whiskey-chocolate cake with marzipan, a draft, and oral sex. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5633000 Fri, 11 Jul 2014 08:42:09 -0800 Pirate-Bartender-Zombie-Monkey By: The corpse in the library http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5633279 <a href="/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5632982" title="feckless fecal fear mongering wrote in comment #5632982">&gt;</a> <i>So what you're saying is you want to eat marzipan bonbons while drinking Belgian boilermakers and having someone go down on you</i> Not at the reception, no. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5633279 Fri, 11 Jul 2014 11:33:16 -0800 The corpse in the library By: Pirate-Bartender-Zombie-Monkey http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5633570 Me be not the main reception, but with the right circle of friends and acquaintances... comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5633570 Fri, 11 Jul 2014 12:49:04 -0800 Pirate-Bartender-Zombie-Monkey By: sonascope http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5633824 If I ever find a dude that I can keep from alienating long enough to utilize the marriage equality in Maryland, my wedding cake is going to be a selection of lemon meringue pies. And proper southern ones, too, not those shitty ones with see-through astringent lemon gel like the horrors non-southerners mistake for lemon meringue pies, either. Plus, when the guests wade back from the actual ceremony on the Maryland side of the Potomac for the reception, pie will hit the spot way better than some sad ol' cakes. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5633824 Fri, 11 Jul 2014 14:34:28 -0800 sonascope By: Lexica http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5633837 <em>my wedding cake is going to be a selection of lemon meringue pies</em> *begins plotting how to get an invitation* comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5633837 Fri, 11 Jul 2014 14:38:53 -0800 Lexica By: The corpse in the library http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5633854 <a href="/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5633824" title="sonascope wrote in comment #5633824">&gt;</a> <i>proper southern ones, too, not those shitty ones with see-through astringent lemon gel like the horrors non-southerners mistake for lemon meringue pies, either</i> recipe pls comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5633854 Fri, 11 Jul 2014 14:56:43 -0800 The corpse in the library By: sonascope http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5634445 I don't have our actual ratty recipe index card on hand, but the secret to a southern-style pie, like many southern foods (interestingly, because of food shortages following reconstruction), comes in a can--in this case, canned sweetened condensed milk. The official <a href="http://www.eaglebrand.ca/recipes-details.aspx?rid=1628">Eagle Brand version</a> is a pretty good starting point, though you should use actual juice from actual lemons, up the zest a bit (and add some lime zest to zing it up), and make your own baked crust (graham crusts aren't right for these). I make a baked oil crust for mine (my default hard-to-fuck-up crust) and they work out nicely in this context. Of course, I'm just accustomed to this pie because I'm half-southern/half-Baltimore and it's all I ever had until I ventured out into the world, so it's personal taste as much as anything, but when I've had the pinched northern lemon variant, I find that the weird gel curd is way way too tart and that the creamy wonderness of the meringue just gets lost in the harsh distinction between the solidified Pledge furniture polish of the custard across that boundary between the two. In the southern rendition, it's just this perfect pillow fight of fluffy flavors tusslin' in the buttery bed of crust. To each their own, of course, but ye lemon pie gel infidels will never know the touch of the divine. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5634445 Sat, 12 Jul 2014 06:36:26 -0800 sonascope By: feckless fecal fear mongering http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5634489 sonascope, that's pretty much exactly how I make my key lime (or makrut lime if I can find the actual limes and not just the leaves) pie: 6 egg yolks, 1 can sweetened condensed milk, juice and zest of 6-8 limes depending on size. Blind bake a crust (protip: coins you have put through the dishwasher are better than using beans; Heston Blumenthal's trick. Works better because they really get into the edges and help with heat transmission. Change your timing accordingy), add goop, bake in a bain Marie until barely set, chill. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5634489 Sat, 12 Jul 2014 07:53:20 -0800 feckless fecal fear mongering By: sonascope http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5634906 When I'm cooking in Sylvania, Georgia, for our Thanksgiving reunion feasts, a task that's quickly becoming my thing as the older generation are earning the right to sit back and tell tales while the <strike>young folks</strike> freshly middle-aged folks do the grunt work, I use my great Aunt Catherine's pie weights, which are a mason jar's worth of buckshot spray-painted in day-glo colors (now aged to a nice faded patina) in a late-sixties art project by some of the "kids." They work beautifully well on a layer of foil, but I bet a few bucks in pennies would be good, too. Fortunately, we had a pretty frequent source of key limes from my citrus farmer cousin-in-law, Dixie Royal (this is a grown man, which makes his name absolutely the most perfect name <em>ever</em>), though I've been doing mainly pecan, molasses, and pumpkin pies since he's gotten too old to drive up every year. Come to think of it, I need to start planning my menu. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5634906 Sat, 12 Jul 2014 13:02:16 -0800 sonascope By: feckless fecal fear mongering http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5635288 A thought just occurred. Lemongrass meringue pie. Perhaps dense-foaming coconut milk as the 'meringue,' with Thai basil baked into the crust. (one of my favourite flavour combinations ever, because there are SO MANY possible permutations.) comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5635288 Sat, 12 Jul 2014 15:42:40 -0800 feckless fecal fear mongering By: jetlagaddict http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5635326 Dear agent fffm: this is your mission and please for the love of all things delicious, accept it. And then give us the recipe!! comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5635326 Sat, 12 Jul 2014 16:33:27 -0800 jetlagaddict By: nadawi http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5635399 just showed my yankee husband the difference in lemon meringues and found out he'd only had the bright yellow monstrosity. i've been slackin' apparently. of course, he also said he preferred the pull apart flaky biscuits (instead of the true buttermilk biscuit) for biscuits and gravy, so we obviously have more work to do. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5635399 Sat, 12 Jul 2014 18:14:15 -0800 nadawi By: dame http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5635413 Yeah I'm sorry but I've been to weddings without cakes and that's not ok. If I'm buying a dress and showing up to your party, feeding me cake is holding up your end of the deal. Otherwise you just got me to leave the house on false pretenses. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5635413 Sat, 12 Jul 2014 18:38:16 -0800 dame By: The Underpants Monster http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5635418 Lemon merengue pie is so spicy it makes you get up and do a Latin dance. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5635418 Sat, 12 Jul 2014 18:41:08 -0800 The Underpants Monster By: wakannai http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5635548 As the son of a dessert caterer, I look seriously askance at this. Sure, all wedding trends are obnoxious, and fondant is not only a pain in the ass to work with, but also seriously overused. However, that said, I really don't get the point of having cakes with less frosting and more freaking cactus garnish. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5635548 Sat, 12 Jul 2014 22:36:18 -0800 wakannai By: divabat http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5641676 fffm: tom yum pie? I'm so accustomed to lemongrass and basil being in savory stuff that if I tried your pie I'd be wondering where the shrimp was. My sister and her husband resolved the cake issue by <a href="http://planetmithi.blogspot.com/2009/09/wedding-wednesday-part-4.html">asking people to bring cakes in lieu of wedding gifts</a> (an idea they stole from the husband's sister). Their own wedding cake was similarly unfrosted, though not as tall - they were British but didn't like the fruitcake &amp; marzipan deal. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5641676 Wed, 16 Jul 2014 12:25:03 -0800 divabat By: feckless fecal fear mongering http://www.metafilter.com/140781/Guaranteed-fondant-free#5641931 divabat, one of my more successful desserts ever has been coconut&amp;lemongrass panna cotta with mango (in various forms; usually a gelee) and Thai basil as garnish (I've also done a much more complex version involving a black tea--usually lapsang souchong--gel, honeycomb candy/sponge toffee made with honey, and mango candied with star anise and juniper). Those plates pretty much always came back looking like they didn't even need to go through the dishwasher. comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.140781-5641931 Wed, 16 Jul 2014 13:53:20 -0800 feckless fecal fear mongering "Yes. Something that interested us yesterday when we saw it." "Where is she?" 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