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Comments on MetaFilter post The Cello and The NightingaleSat, 16 Aug 2014 06:31:56 -0800Sat, 16 Aug 2014 06:31:56 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60The Cello and The Nightingale
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In 1924 the BBC transmitted its first live outside broadcast: a duet between cellist Beatrice Harrison and the nightingales nesting in the garden of her Surrey home. <a href="http://nationalmediamuseumblog.wordpress.com/2013/01/08/from-nightingale-to-narcissus/">Capturing the song of the Nightingale</a>. <br /><br />The nightingale concerts became a yearly fixture on BBC Radio. 1942's recording captured the sound of Wellington and Lancaster bombers departing on a raid; the BBC <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2093108/The-remarkable-moment-BBC-forced-pull-plug-World-War-II-birdsong-broadcast-bombers-flew-overhead.html">cut the transmission to avoid broadcasting an early warning to Germany</a>. In 2012 Vikram Seth chose the wartime recording as <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/features/desert-island-discs/castaway/dc7f1918">his favorite Desert Island Disc</a>. <small>[segment starts at 14:20]</small>
Eighty years after the 1924 broadcast doubts were raised: was that night's reluctant nightingale actually <a href="http://www.colander.org/gallimaufry/Birdsong.html">the work of a talented <em>siffleur</em>?</a>
<blockquote>What really happened in that garden in Surrey was that an extremely well known bird impressionist - Maude Gould, sometimes known as Madame Saberon - was contracted by the BBC as a 'backup' to things not working. The trampling around of all the technical staff and all the heavy equipment scared any birds off and the recording is actually that of Maude Gould whistling to Ms Harrison's playing.</blockquote>post:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.141973Sat, 16 Aug 2014 06:22:47 -0800We had a deal, KylebbcradiolivebroadcastoutsidebroadcastmicrophonemarconisykesmagnetophonebeatriceharrisonnightingalethedemiparadiseelectricdreamsnarcissuswwiivikramsethmaudegouldsiffleurhistoryBy: flapjax at midnite
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BBC: Bogus Bird Callscomment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.141973-5688892Sat, 16 Aug 2014 06:31:56 -0800flapjax at midniteBy: flapjax at midnite
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Human/animal musical interaction is an area which I find interesting, though. A good amount of untapped potential there, I think. Here's something I did <a href="http://music.metafilter.com/6940/Baby-Bug">in duet with a cicada</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.141973-5688898Sat, 16 Aug 2014 06:37:46 -0800flapjax at midniteBy: yoink
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Hail to thee, blithe spirit! / Bird thou never wert.
(O.K. Shelley was hailing a Skylark, but "bird thou never wert" has never been more apt. Though come to think of it, Keats's "The fancy cannot cheat so well as she is famed to do, deceiving elf" is pretty much on topic, too.)comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.141973-5689066Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:06:58 -0800yoinkBy: yoink
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Also; was anyone else sadly disappointed when they finally got to hear what a nightingale sounded like? I grew up where there were no nightingales but I kept reading about their astonishingly melodious song and reading all the poems addressed to them and hearing the term "nightingale" applied to particularly masterful human singers etc. And then I finally get to hear what they actually sound like and...it's bird calls. Pretty much like any number of other bird calls you'll hear all over the world. I mean, you know, nice and all--but it is completely mystifiying, to me, why this chirpy-chirpy bird call got picked over all other very similar chirpy-chirpy bird calls as the most ravishing and inventive of all nature's melodists. The nightingale I'd invented in my mind was so infinitely more enrapturing and mellifluous and musical than the real thing...I can still only laugh when I hear recordings of the real bird.comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.141973-5689084Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:33:08 -0800yoinkBy: From Bklyn
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No, it's not just bird calls. Just as a caterwaul is not just a cat-call, the nightingale sound comes up out of nowhere and can fill a room with a sound that's various and liquid and, in the right moment around dusk - for some reason - can take your brain apart for just long enough that you can wonder at it and how you ever thought it could go back together.
I heard one of these recording between cello and 'bird' a long time ago and have thought about it frequently. The impulse is exactly right - a desire to interact with this astonishing music to be a part of it incorporated into it in some way...
And but no.comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.141973-5689242Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:55:35 -0800From BklynBy: scruss
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ohshitohshitohshit but that <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_MHqW5KVds">nightingale and bombers recording</a> ... listen to it through headphones, with the video hidden in another tab. That's the real thing.comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.141973-5689263Sat, 16 Aug 2014 15:40:22 -0800scrussBy: yoink
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<em>the nightingale sound comes up out of nowhere and can fill a room with a sound that's various and liquid and, in the right moment around dusk - for some reason - can take your brain apart for just long enough that you can wonder at it and how you ever thought it could go back together.</em>
Well, that's very lovely in a "half in love with easeful death" sort of way--but doesn't really answer the question of why this astonishingly ravishing music seems to be impossible to get down on a tape recorder. I've listened to a <em>lot</em> of recordings of nightingales (I teach a lot of Romantic poetry and like to give my students a frame of reference for the call), and none of them are anything but "oh, that's a cute, cheerful little chirpy birdy."comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.141973-5689306Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:28:20 -0800yoinkBy: jokeefe
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I read an anecdote once about the great British composer <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethel_Smyth">Ethel Smyth</a>. With the deafness encroaching that ended her career, a friend (in my mind I believe this was Virginia Woolf, or at least one of the Bloomsbury Group) arranged for her to come and sit in her garden at dusk so that she could hear the nightingales one last time. In the story, a bird flew down and sat close to her, singing. It sounds a bit mythic to be true, but it's beautiful nevertheless and I choose to believe it.comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.141973-5689329Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:57:08 -0800jokeefeBy: glasseyes
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Ha! I know exactly what you mean <strong>yoink</strong>, with the addition that my mother was homesick and imbued her memories of stuff like birdsong or the taste of strawberries with a proper golden glow. And no, I couldn't fathom what all the fuss was about either once I'd experienced them.
It's a bird. It makes bird noises.comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.141973-5689795Sun, 17 Aug 2014 10:47:04 -0800glasseyesBy: From Bklyn
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It is just a bird and I've heard it lots of times and not thought twice about it but then, probably once a year, everything (whatever everything is - humidity? Temperature? My own mood at whatever given time of day? FuckifIknow) comes together just right and the sound is otherworldly. Go figure.comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.141973-5690541Mon, 18 Aug 2014 00:56:50 -0800From Bklyn
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