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Comments on MetaFilter post Whizzy, spinny, Enterprise/UFO looking like thing.Mon, 04 Feb 2002 15:49:48 -0800Mon, 04 Feb 2002 15:49:48 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60Whizzy, spinny, Enterprise/UFO looking like thing.
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<a href="http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99991859">Whizzy, spinny, Enterprise/UFO looking like thing.</a> SimiCon, a Norwegian company focused on Unmanned Aerial Vehicles is developing a <a href="http://www.simicon.no/SRC.htm">circular craft</a> that uses both rotors and a low profile jet in order to provide the high performance of a fixed wing craft along with the VTOL capabilites of a helicopter. Looks pretty cool.post:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.14459Mon, 04 Feb 2002 15:43:38 -0800zeoslapsimiconaeronauticshelicopterBy: jfuller
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If it has <i>at least</i> interplanetary capabilities it's what I've been waiting for all my life. (And, hint hint, what I <i>expected</i> to be able to buy by about 1985. C'mon guys, get it together before I'm too old and decrepit to deal with the G forces...)comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.14459-218694Mon, 04 Feb 2002 15:49:48 -0800jfullerBy: Kafkaesque
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Well, obviously it's going to have a time-travel option in a couple of years. That'll explain all those UFO sightings since 47 or so. Which is of course what crashed in Roswell... Which is what this thing was reverse engineered from....
*head explodes*comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.14459-218697Mon, 04 Feb 2002 15:53:58 -0800KafkaesqueBy: coelecanth
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Not to mention its almost unlimited potential as a <i>super high performance lawn mower</i>. Maybe with some kind of fusion or antimatter drive.comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.14459-218703Mon, 04 Feb 2002 16:03:17 -0800coelecanthBy: TiggleTaggleTiger
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It already is a <a href="http://www.flymo.com">lawnmower!</a><br>Spooky.comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.14459-218711Mon, 04 Feb 2002 16:18:39 -0800TiggleTaggleTigerBy: bloggboy
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So where do you sit?comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.14459-218716Mon, 04 Feb 2002 16:45:55 -0800bloggboyBy: NortonDC
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<a href="http://www.classicgaming.com/starcontrol/sc2/aliens/arilou.shtml">Uh oh...</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.14459-218732Mon, 04 Feb 2002 17:09:54 -0800NortonDCBy: alumshubby
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<b>bloggboy</b>: Not only do I wonder where any crew and cargo would go, I wonder whether they'd have enough room left over to fit fuel tanks into this puppy with enough capacity to be useful.
Think about it: To get that rotor spinning, there has to be some way (a transmission, a generator and electric motor) to transfer power from the turbofan to the rotor shaft. Add to that the complexity of a <i>retractable, telescoping</i> rotor assembly. That kind of capability, which hasn't been attempted in aircraft yet, consumes the airframe's internal space for more motors/actuators, cabling, hydraulics, etc., with a substantial weight penalty. And that's not even considering the retractable landing gear. This would be an aircraft that makes the V-22 Osprey look like a 1950s design by comparision.
Notice that unlike single-main-rotor helicopters, this design lacks a tail rotor to counteract the torque from the main blade. But it's not using NOTAR (no tail rotor) blower technology either, or it would require another additional fan, internally designed to duct air so as to provide counteracting force, etc.
The bigger the wing/saucer (to offset the requirement for copious internal space), the greater the overall weight -- and the less the overall performance in speed, range and manuverability.
I'll believe this when Northrop Grumman builds a working prototype for the Navy. Until then, it's just a bunch of design-bureau engineers' collective rice bowl.comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.14459-218755Mon, 04 Feb 2002 17:37:59 -0800alumshubbyBy: zeoslap
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It's designed as an unmanned vehicle... (and that's a fancy three dotty elipsis(?) thing as learnt from MeFi yesterday)comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.14459-218768Mon, 04 Feb 2002 17:55:59 -0800zeoslapBy: zeoslap
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Oh and if you actually read the info the design uses the jet blowing sideways to counteract the torque from the main blade.comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.14459-218770Mon, 04 Feb 2002 17:57:24 -0800zeoslapBy: treywhit
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<i>The vehicle could be used by police for surveillance, or to track pollution...</i>
Great. Call me when I can hover into work.comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.14459-218780Mon, 04 Feb 2002 18:11:38 -0800treywhitBy: HTuttle
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Been there, did that.
(A51 employee.)comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.14459-218877Mon, 04 Feb 2002 20:28:29 -0800HTuttleBy: internook
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They'll build cities around this thing.comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.14459-218965Tue, 05 Feb 2002 02:01:45 -0800internookBy: fluxcreative
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<a href="http://ebe.allwebco.com/Sections/UFOs/Archive/Disk-shaped.shtml">This is not entirely a new concept.</a> (scroll down some) Projects similar to this were conducted in the late 40's and early 50's with some moderate success, however none could achieve the cost effectiveness or efficiency of conventional designs.
It's definitely a neat looking machine, and I'm sure it would get it's use in movies or television, it just doesn't seem that it will be capable of doing anything that is currently not possible with the aircraft we have now. I applaud the innovation though, it's another step closer to finally getting my hoverboard.comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.14459-219017Tue, 05 Feb 2002 06:26:51 -0800fluxcreative
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