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Comments on MetaFilter post César AiraMon, 15 Dec 2014 08:10:55 -0800Mon, 15 Dec 2014 08:10:55 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60César Aira
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“I‘ve realized that the perfect length for <a href="http://quarterlyconversation.com/cesar-aira-how-i-became-a-nun" title="The Literary Alchemy of César Aira: a profile by Marcelo Ballvé">what I do</a> is 100 pages. In my <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/08/11/picasso" title="Picasso, a short story by César Aira (trans. Chris Andrews) at The New Yorker">brevity</a> there may be an element of insecurity. I wouldn‘t dare give a 1,000-page novel to a reader […] My novels became <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/12/05/the-musical-brain" title="The Musical Brain, a short story by César Aira (trans. Chris Andrews) at The New Yorker">shorter</a> as I became more renowned. People now allow me to do <a href="http://www.thenation.com/article/167323/unmanageable-realities-cesar-aira#" title="Unmanageable Realities: On César Aira, by Marcela Valdes at The Nation">whatever I want</a>. At any rate, <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/week-fiction-barbara-epler-cesar-aira-2" title="This Week in Fiction: Barbara Epler on César Aira (The New Yorker)">publishers</a> prefer thick books. But with <a href="http://ndbooks.com/author/cesar-aira" title="Author profile page of Aira at New Directions">books</a>, the thicker they are, the less literature they have.””—<a href="http://bombmagazine.org/article/3224/c-sar-aira" title="César Aira interviewed by María Moreno at Bomb Magazine">César Aira</a> <br /><br /><small>To the memory of <a href="http://metatalk.metafilter.com/23505/RIP-Felicity-Rilke" title="Notice of MeFite Felicity Rilke's untimely death.">Felicity Rilke</a>, whose <a href="http://ask.metafilter.com/116971/What-are-your-favorite-novels-from-an-aestheticwriting-style-point-of-view#1677452">enthusiastic</a> <a href="http://ask.metafilter.com/198884/Further-steps-into-magic-realism#2862700">recommendations</a> of Aira led me to start reading his books.</small>post:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.145355Mon, 15 Dec 2014 07:51:47 -0800misteraitchairacesarairaliteraturenovelsnovellasshortstoriestranslationspanishargentinaargentinefictionbrevitybooksBy: Cash4Lead
http://www.metafilter.com/145355/Csar-Aira#5856945
Thanks for this. I read the Picasso story when it came out in the New Yorker and was impressed. "To have a Picasso or to be Picasso?" is a great opening.comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.145355-5856945Mon, 15 Dec 2014 08:10:55 -0800Cash4LeadBy: fredludd
http://www.metafilter.com/145355/Csar-Aira#5856948
<em>the thicker they are, the less literature they have</em>
My immediate thought: <em>Infinite Jest</em>, 1100 pages -- neither infinite (though tediously long) nor much of a jest (oddball isn't necessarily funny)comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.145355-5856948Mon, 15 Dec 2014 08:11:33 -0800fredluddBy: Rustic Etruscan
http://www.metafilter.com/145355/Csar-Aira#5856959
Counterpoint: <em>In Search of Lost Time</em>, which is rarely less than really, really good, except in the parts of the book that were put together by editors after Proust's death.
I first heard of César Aira when I went through a Latin American lit phase after reading <em>The Savage Detectives</em> in my freshman year of college. I should get around to actually reading him. His books sound cool.comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.145355-5856959Mon, 15 Dec 2014 08:18:05 -0800Rustic EtruscanBy: stinkfoot
http://www.metafilter.com/145355/Csar-Aira#5856998
I too encountered Aira in the New Yorker earlier this year - I'll definitely be picking up <em>How I Became a Nun</em> and reading the "The Musical Brain" later today. The Nation profile does a great job of putting him in the context of modern Argentina. Regarding the brevity thing - that's part of his style (as it was even more so for his countryman Borges). To expect the same of other, longer novels is to ignore the stylistic choices that make those pieces what they are.comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.145355-5856998Mon, 15 Dec 2014 08:41:05 -0800stinkfootBy: IndigoJones
http://www.metafilter.com/145355/Csar-Aira#5857011
<em>My immediate thought: Infinite Jest,</em>
My immediate thought - Tolstoy. Then Dickens.
Never heard of this guy.comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.145355-5857011Mon, 15 Dec 2014 08:52:50 -0800IndigoJonesBy: The Card Cheat
http://www.metafilter.com/145355/Csar-Aira#5857037
The older I get, the more I appreciate a good novella.comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.145355-5857037Mon, 15 Dec 2014 09:06:20 -0800The Card CheatBy: BuddhaInABucket
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I have read as many Aira books as I can get my hands on and I can't recommend them highly enough. I also have to give high praise to his English translator- the prose is so good that I often read entire passages to myself out loud, just so I can savor them properly. Imagine Dali, or Pedro Almedovar, as an author.
His books are enjoyable despite the lack of commitment to plot or continuity because they are beautiful first and foremost. You'll find that you don't care that the book has seemed to meander away from its point because you really like where it's taken you. And then- woah! The point was still there in the background all along. Or not. It doesn't matter.
Probably the most frustrating thing about Aira is how few of his 50+ novellas are translated into English. Anyway- obviously I recommend him.comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.145355-5857078Mon, 15 Dec 2014 09:31:39 -0800BuddhaInABucketBy: Monsieur Caution
http://www.metafilter.com/145355/Csar-Aira#5857101
I've read two books by Aira: Ghosts and An Episode in the Life of a Landscape Painter. Of the two, I'd recommend the latter more highly, but he seems to be a reliable source of thoughtful imagery and atmosphere. Thank you for posting this!comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.145355-5857101Mon, 15 Dec 2014 09:46:13 -0800Monsieur CautionBy: aught
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I like Aira's books a lot but the bit about length and quality is just plain silly. Given the silliness of some of Aira's plot twists, that's not so surprising.comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.145355-5857198Mon, 15 Dec 2014 10:37:51 -0800aughtBy: naju
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<i>Never heard of this guy.</i>
One of my least favorite comments to read in any context.comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.145355-5857202Mon, 15 Dec 2014 10:41:24 -0800najuBy: wyndham
http://www.metafilter.com/145355/Csar-Aira#5857239
<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/145355/Csar-Aira#5857078">Probably the most frustrating thing about Aira is how few of his 50+ novellas are translated into English. Anyway- obviously I recommend him.</a>
On the other hand, and I'm paraphrasing a quotation whose author I cannot remember: "How wonderful it is to think that I'll have a new Aira book to read every year for the rest of my life."
But yes, I am firmly on board with Aira. If it weren't for Gary Lutz I would probably say he's my favourite author I've ever read. I recommend starting with The Literary Conference or The Hare. Although The Hare is an uncharacteristic 200+ pages.comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.145355-5857239Mon, 15 Dec 2014 11:04:51 -0800wyndhamBy: Nevin
http://www.metafilter.com/145355/Csar-Aira#5857346
<em>My immediate thought: Infinite Jest, 1100 pages -- neither infinite (though tediously long) nor much of a jest (oddball isn't necessarily funny)</em>
Infinite Read, more like.comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.145355-5857346Mon, 15 Dec 2014 12:26:22 -0800NevinBy: Steely-eyed Missile Man
http://www.metafilter.com/145355/Csar-Aira#5857385
<em>Never heard of this guy.</em>
Neither have I. Let us toast each other, all the while ignoring the nagging thought that despite all outward appearances we may not be the universal arbiters of taste that everyone supposes us to be...comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.145355-5857385Mon, 15 Dec 2014 12:52:26 -0800Steely-eyed Missile ManBy: happyroach
http://www.metafilter.com/145355/Csar-Aira#5857395
Well, this makes me feel better about my NaNoWriMo submission. Especially since I've been told repeatedly novels really need to be 100,000 words.comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.145355-5857395Mon, 15 Dec 2014 12:56:10 -0800happyroachBy: Steely-eyed Missile Man
http://www.metafilter.com/145355/Csar-Aira#5857413
<em>Well, this makes me feel better about my NaNoWriMo submission. Especially since I've been told repeatedly novels really need to be 100,000 words.</em>
One of my favorite books ever is the tiny little Black Blossom by Boban Knežević (thank you copy/paste). At 44,600 words (according to private correspondence with the author), it amuses me to no end that it would not count as a NaNoWriMo win, despite being better than what I imagine is 99% of the winning output of that event.comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.145355-5857413Mon, 15 Dec 2014 13:06:37 -0800Steely-eyed Missile ManBy: Kattullus
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Well, according to the Hugos and the Nebulas, a novel is a story that is longer than forty thousand words. My first novel was forty four thousand words, and my second one is currently at thirty seven thousand, after a healthy amount of cutting, but will probably end up at around thirty eight thousands after I type up all the additions I've scribbled into the margins of the print out, which will make it about the length of The Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad (not the fully awesome one). Great Gatsby was about forty eight thousand words. Length isn't nothing. It's hard to call a story that you can read in one sitting without having to eat or go to the toilet a novel. Part of the joys of reading books like Anna Karenina, The Lord of the Rings and Wind-up Bird Chronicle is losing yourself in the world they portray. But length isn't everything. Some of the best novels I've read have been very short, even shorter than Heart of Darkness, but I'd still call them novels in terms of narrative genre.comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.145355-5857508Mon, 15 Dec 2014 14:03:43 -0800KattullusBy: Nevin
http://www.metafilter.com/145355/Csar-Aira#5857585
If Moby Dick had been written according to this you could publish it in Penthouse Letters.comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.145355-5857585Mon, 15 Dec 2014 15:00:23 -0800NevinBy: milarepa
http://www.metafilter.com/145355/Csar-Aira#5857603
<em>Counterpoint: In Search of Lost Time, which is rarely less than really, really good, except in the parts of the book that were put together by editors after Proust's death.
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Even those parts aren't so bad. If I could write a book half as good as the prisoner/fugitive I'd be happy.comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.145355-5857603Mon, 15 Dec 2014 15:19:29 -0800milarepaBy: Rustic Etruscan
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Oh yeah, no question. The bizarre arrest that happens and never gets mentioned again seems to come from another book entirely, and the obsession with Albertine deserves its infamy for repetitiousness, but the trip to Venice, the description of Vinteuil's masterwork, and pretty much every scene with Charlus are all unimpeachably good. And then of course <em>Time Regained</em> finishes the lift and locks out after all.comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.145355-5857655Mon, 15 Dec 2014 15:52:14 -0800Rustic EtruscanBy: koeselitz
http://www.metafilter.com/145355/Csar-Aira#5857670
<small>IndigoJones: </small><em>“Never heard of this guy.”</em>
<small>naju: </small><em>“One of my least favorite comments to read in any context.”</em>
There's nothing wrong with admitting that you haven't heard of someone.
I have never heard of César Aira either. I hope that doesn't make me a bad person.
At this point, to me he's just a guy who said that all long novels lack literary value. So the only thing I know about him is that he's a guy who's wrong about a thing. Maybe he's an awesome novelist, though. I may check him out because of this thread.comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.145355-5857670Mon, 15 Dec 2014 15:59:27 -0800koeselitzBy: foodbedgospel
http://www.metafilter.com/145355/Csar-Aira#5857809
Nice post! I just finished a Sunday commenting on forty critical theory-driven essays my high school seniors wrote on Aira's <i>Ghosts.</i> My students... took some time to warm to his style, & some simply never did. He isn't for everyone. For instance, & to be spoiler-safe, you'll be reading along with the experience of Patri, a 15-year-old Chilean girl whose family seems to be annoying her, what with the kids scampering around & her elders talking to her about a "real man," & then she heads off to siesta, & suddenly she's dreaming *like whole chapters out of Mircea Eliade's <i>The Sacred and the Profane.</i>* With extensive references to Aboriginal dream-time, etc. etc. etc. The metafictional conceits & authorial games can be off-putting, but I think he's a very smart & also a very compassionate writer. <i>Ghosts</i> gets my wholesale recommendation, even in full light of the chance that some readers will hate it: I think reading it betters the reader no matter the reader's opinion. Which is paradoxical, maybe: how can so brainy a writer still hit the heart? Aira does. Thanks for the post.comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.145355-5857809Mon, 15 Dec 2014 17:24:13 -0800foodbedgospelBy: Lexica
http://www.metafilter.com/145355/Csar-Aira#5857920
<em>Never heard of this guy.</em>
How fortunate for you that there's an FPP to expose you to his work, then!
<em>There's nothing wrong with admitting that you haven't heard of someone.</em>
No, but the performative "Who is this person? *disdainful sniff* I've never heard of them!" is tedious as hell. (And that's absolutely what was going on with that comment, or it wouldn't have the self-congratulatory references to Tolstoy or Dickens.) Okay, you've never heard of this person? Try reading the links provided!comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.145355-5857920Mon, 15 Dec 2014 19:17:13 -0800LexicaBy: koeselitz
http://www.metafilter.com/145355/Csar-Aira#5858089
Well, to be fair, Aira actually said that long novels are bad. That's crazy and silly. IndigoJones wasn't mentioning other authors to be self-congratulatory; they were pointing out that, uh, there really are great long novels, and it's nuts to say otherwise. An incredulous response to a ridiculous dismissal of a whole swath of great fiction is not the same thing as blanket condemnation of an author.
Anyway, some of my favorite writers tend to say ridiculous things, so maybe it's not a bad thing that Aira said something silly in an interesting way. It's still silly, though.comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.145355-5858089Mon, 15 Dec 2014 23:10:02 -0800koeselitzBy: misteraitch
http://www.metafilter.com/145355/Csar-Aira#5858132
Aira writes a little about Dickens, Tolstoy, Proust <a href="http://www.thewhitereview.org/features/the-new-writing/">here</a> - an excerpt:
<blockquote>In effect, once the ‘professional’ novel – if we limit ourselves to the art of the novel – had come into existence, in a state of perfection that cannot exceed its premises (the novel of Balzac, Dickens, Tolstoy, Manzoni), it runs the risk of becoming congealed. One could say that if the only risk is that novelists might keep on writing like Balzac, then it is a risk we are willing to take, and with pleasure. But in reality it’s optimistic to talk of a mere ‘risk’ because this process of congealment has actually taken place. Thousands of novelists have continued to write Balzacian novels during the twentieth century: an unending stream of commercial fiction, fleeting, frivolous novels written for the purposes of either entertainment or ideology. To take even a single step further, as Proust did, requires a colossal effort and the sacrifice of an entire life. The law of diminishing returns comes into play: the innovator covers almost all the ground in his initial attempt, leaving his successors a space that gets smaller every day and in which it's more and more difficult to move forward.</blockquote><blockquote> Once a professional novelist is established, he has two equally melancholy alternatives: to keep writing the ‘old’ novels in updated settings; or to heroically attempt to take one or two more steps forward. This last possibility turned out to be a dead end within a few years: while Balzac wrote fifty novels, and still had time to live, Flaubert wrote five, shedding blood in the process. Joyce wrote two, and Proust a single novel, and it was a work that took over his life, absorbing it, a kind of inhuman hyperprofessionalism. The fact is that being able to make a living from literature was a momentary and precarious state which could only happen at a determined moment in history. I would even say that it was only, and could only ever have been, a promise, in the process of being formed; by the time it had come into being, it was already time to look for something else.</blockquote>comment:www.metafilter.com,2014:site.145355-5858132Tue, 16 Dec 2014 01:12:32 -0800misteraitch
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