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Comments on MetaFilter post First Listen: Saul Williams - MartyrLoserKingThu, 21 Jan 2016 00:07:35 -0800Thu, 21 Jan 2016 00:07:35 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60First Listen: Saul Williams - MartyrLoserKing
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Spoken word artist Saul Williams comes forth with <a href="http://www.npr.org/2016/01/20/463736514/first-listen-saul-williams-martyrloserking">a new album, MartyrLoserKing, available for first listen via NPR</a>, produced by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Warfield">Justin Warfield</a>. Williams first made his name on the slam poetry circuit and has been recording rap (hard to call them hip-hop) albums for several years. <br /><br />Williams' previous albums include the Trent Reznor-produced <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7u5S88iBDQ">The Inevitable Rise And Liberation Of Niggy Tardust</a>, a personal favorite of mine.post:www.metafilter.com,2016:site.156425Wed, 20 Jan 2016 22:09:55 -0800hippybearSaulWilliamsJustinWarfieldraphip-hopspokenwordpoliticalsocialconsciousmusicBy: not_on_display
http://www.metafilter.com/156425/First-Listen-Saul-Williams-MartyrLoserKing#6360905
Hearing Saul Williams for the first time many years ago, for me, was an awakening as to how a whole style of music you thought you had pinned down could suddenly veer off-course and produce not only something different, exciting, wonderful, and completely unexpected, but also a callback to the very roots of the genre. (Michael Franti also hit me like that around the same time, but sounding completely different from Saul Williams.) Thanks for posting this.comment:www.metafilter.com,2016:site.156425-6360905Thu, 21 Jan 2016 00:07:35 -0800not_on_displayBy: TreeHugger
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I've seen him perform live in Dallas over 12 years ago. Sophisticated, mysterious (to me), intriguing, kind of serious, and overall just brilliant. Great to see him mentioned on MeFi; I would highly recommend checking out his work.comment:www.metafilter.com,2016:site.156425-6360922Thu, 21 Jan 2016 00:48:30 -0800TreeHuggerBy: Jimbob
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Blackalicious's "Release" is where I first came across Saul Williams, and it's an incredible track. I tried to dive into some of his other work and found it...difficult. What should I be listening to?comment:www.metafilter.com,2016:site.156425-6360951Thu, 21 Jan 2016 02:58:08 -0800JimbobBy: sapagan
http://www.metafilter.com/156425/First-Listen-Saul-Williams-MartyrLoserKing#6360962
Damn, this is good. Ever since I heard <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HerpGwbLSM8">Coded Language</a>, an almost unbearably intense track, I've loved most that I've come across. But unfortunately haven't been a very regular follower so I see that I've missed a few albums even. Thanks for the reminder! Time to fill some gaps.
I see there's also a few videos already on youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXE0ZT-0Nxo">Coltan as Cotton</a>, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeFm3Oda5hw">Burundi</a>, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3x6pxpwd_w">Horn of the Clock-Bike</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2016:site.156425-6360962Thu, 21 Jan 2016 03:48:07 -0800sapaganBy: box
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<em> What should I be listening to?</em>
'Amethyst Rock Star' isn't a bad starting point.comment:www.metafilter.com,2016:site.156425-6360982Thu, 21 Jan 2016 04:41:13 -0800boxBy: FatherDagon
http://www.metafilter.com/156425/First-Listen-Saul-Williams-MartyrLoserKing#6361006
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIp47yWUQKs">I will not rhyme over tracks
Niggas on a chain gang used to do that
Waaaay back</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2016:site.156425-6361006Thu, 21 Jan 2016 05:32:58 -0800FatherDagonBy: allthinky
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Oh, shoot. I really need to work this morning.comment:www.metafilter.com,2016:site.156425-6361085Thu, 21 Jan 2016 06:30:12 -0800allthinkyBy: spindle
http://www.metafilter.com/156425/First-Listen-Saul-Williams-MartyrLoserKing#6361104
<em>(hard to call them hip-hop)</em>
Nope. Saul Williams is a hip-hop artist -- it's there in the <a href="https://books.google.ca/books?id=tug4SZqq0KoC">subtitle of one of his books</a>. It's just that he's a hip-hop artist in open revolt against what hip-hop has become. His project is a very deliberate effort to expand the range of the genre -- to say that this, too, is hip-hop. So if it's hard to call them hip-hop that's deliberate, and probably the most interesting way to think about his work.comment:www.metafilter.com,2016:site.156425-6361104Thu, 21 Jan 2016 06:52:04 -0800spindleBy: spindle
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These lyrics from Coded Language, for example, are addressed directly to hip-hop:
<blockquote>Statements, such as, "keep it real", especially when punctuating or
Anticipating modes of ultra-violence inflicted psychologically or physically
Or depicting an unchanging rule of events will hence forth be seen as
Retro-active and not representative of the individually determined is</blockquote>comment:www.metafilter.com,2016:site.156425-6361113Thu, 21 Jan 2016 06:57:36 -0800spindleBy: Ufez Jones
http://www.metafilter.com/156425/First-Listen-Saul-Williams-MartyrLoserKing#6361120
<i>I've seen him perform live in Dallas over 12 years ago. Sophisticated, mysterious (to me), intriguing, kind of serious, and overall just brilliant. Great to see him mentioned on MeFi; I would highly recommend checking out his work.
posted by TreeHugger at 2:48 AM on January 21 [+] [!] </i>
Was that by chance on the Plea for Peace tour (at Trees)? If so, I was volunteering at the Music For America table that night registering people to vote. I didn't get to hang out with him much, but Saul made a point to come over and thank me for being there and we chatted for about 2 minutes. He's a genuinely kind man (as was everyone I met that night, including Plea for Peace tour organizer Mike Park).comment:www.metafilter.com,2016:site.156425-6361120Thu, 21 Jan 2016 07:02:18 -0800Ufez JonesBy: No One Ever Does
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Awesome! I knew he was coming out with the album, but it slipped off the radar for me. Really looking forward to listening to it when I get the chance.comment:www.metafilter.com,2016:site.156425-6361543Thu, 21 Jan 2016 11:02:39 -0800No One Ever DoesBy: hippybear
http://www.metafilter.com/156425/First-Listen-Saul-Williams-MartyrLoserKing#6375766
<a href="http://www.npr.org/2016/01/31/464613733/with-martyrloserking-saul-williams-aimed-to-make-a-modern-day-parable">Saul Williams interview on Weekend Edition from this morning, talking about the album.</a> No transcript link available at this time.comment:www.metafilter.com,2016:site.156425-6375766Sun, 31 Jan 2016 10:56:20 -0800hippybearBy: sapagan
http://www.metafilter.com/156425/First-Listen-Saul-Williams-MartyrLoserKing#6382009
<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comments/4477at/ama_this_is_saul_williams_ask_me_anything/">Reddit AMA w/ Saul Williams</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2016:site.156425-6382009Thu, 04 Feb 2016 13:43:37 -0800sapagan
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