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Remember when Uwe Boll <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/52349">challenged his critics in the boxing ring</a>? <a title="challenger list" href="http://www.bollboxing.com/challengers.html">Some of them</a> <a title="fight video" href="http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/boxing/clips-uwe-boll-beats-up-critic-in-boxing-match-198932.php">accepted</a> and the event <a href="http://www.bollboxing.com/index.html">went down</a> on September 23rd. One of the challengers was <a href="http://www.somethingawful.com/index.php?a=3883">Lowtax</a>, who <a title="SA thread with commercial, fight, and interview videos" href="http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=0e4befc307a5107c69407fbf74b20d11&threadid=2083776&perpage=40&pagenumber=1">had some fun with it</a>.post:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033Sun, 24 Sep 2006 22:06:09 -0800bob sarabiaUweBollboxingLowtaxBy: Mikey-San
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1443730
*thumbs up*
"Fuck."comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1443730Sun, 24 Sep 2006 22:15:33 -0800Mikey-SanBy: keswick
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1443745
I heartily approve of anything that involves Lowtax getting his ass beaten down.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1443745Sun, 24 Sep 2006 22:26:56 -0800keswickBy: delmoi
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1443747
Nice. And lowtax is a punk.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1443747Sun, 24 Sep 2006 22:30:03 -0800delmoiBy: jmhodges
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1443750
Wow. That's a whole lot of Lowtax hate. Why?comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1443750Sun, 24 Sep 2006 22:33:37 -0800jmhodgesBy: Operation Afterglow
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1443754
That was the only way Uwe could become a multi-hyphenate...comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1443754Sun, 24 Sep 2006 22:36:15 -0800Operation AfterglowBy: sourwookie
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1443760
Is Lowtaw the new Kaufman?comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1443760Sun, 24 Sep 2006 22:39:43 -0800sourwookieBy: clockworkjoe
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1443764
Apparently Boll told the critics it would be for 'fun' and not serious. He also promised training for them so it would be more fair. He lied.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1443764Sun, 24 Sep 2006 22:45:09 -0800clockworkjoeBy: frogan
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1443785
<em>Wow. That's a whole lot of Lowtax hate. Why?</em>
I had the not-quite pleasure of working with Lowtax when he spent a few months famously working for GameSpy. I'm very happy that he's been so successful at what he does.
But the dude was a punk and got fired for being a punk. And this was back in the <strong>bad </strong>old days of GameSpy, 1999, when I was ripped a new one for merely <em>moving </em>the stash of company porn from one fully accessible server to another fully accessible (and faster) server. Back when the employee birthday parties were marked with a traditional viewing of Aphex Twin's "Windowlicker." Back when there were terabytes of mp3s and DVD movies on a server called RIPNBURN.
Ahh, good times.
Now, just <em>imagine </em>what it would take to get fired from a place like that.
Somehow, Rich pulled it off.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1443785Sun, 24 Sep 2006 23:00:43 -0800froganBy: sparkletone
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1443797
I watched the video of this after getting home from a concert last night.
It made me sad. Because Boll will be happy with what he accomplished that night.
It made me sad that no one took a challenge from a serious amateur boxer seriously.
It made me sad that no one had the wherewithal to lie to the bastard about their abilities as a boxer and then beat his ass.
But the interview with Lowtax afterward made me less sad.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1443797Sun, 24 Sep 2006 23:20:22 -0800sparkletoneBy: vernondalhart
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1443798
Wow, that went on last night not 10 km from where I'm now sitting? Fuck, I should totally pay more attention to what's going on around me.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1443798Sun, 24 Sep 2006 23:21:45 -0800vernondalhartBy: Parannoyed
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1443807
As much "fun" as Lowtax tried to have with it, it would be infinitely better if Uwe had actually gotten a beat down. Seriously, that man is a pox upon the movie-making industry and the culture is a little bit cheaper and more tawdry for his existence.
Take away his camera!!comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1443807Sun, 24 Sep 2006 23:45:56 -0800ParannoyedBy: blenderfish
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1443809
Lowtax is actually a lot more witty in person than I had expected, especially right after being punched in the head a few times.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1443809Sun, 24 Sep 2006 23:46:40 -0800blenderfishBy: bob sarabia
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1443819
<a href="http://www.cinematical.com/2005/10/31/maybe-just-maybe-we-are-free-of-uwe-boll/">Maybe, just maybe, we are free of Uwe Boll</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1443819Sun, 24 Sep 2006 23:57:17 -0800bob sarabiaBy: sparkletone
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1443831
bob sarabia: And yet if you check out neo-Coleman Francis's iMDB page, you see that he's got several more projects lined up. We aren't due to be out of the woods until at least 2008.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1443831Mon, 25 Sep 2006 00:12:59 -0800sparkletoneBy: bob sarabia
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1443840
Since his new projects are labelled as in pre-production I'm hoping that he hasn't gotten funding yet. Although that's probably not true.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1443840Mon, 25 Sep 2006 00:25:02 -0800bob sarabiaBy: mediareport
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1443861
<i>Lowtax is actually a lot more witty in person than I had expected</i>
He did great in that interview. Think about how surprised he must have been when he got punched in the head hard the first few times. Boll gets even more aggressive in the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyT8_W8LLpE&mode=related&search=">3rd</a> and especially the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dIhWBCLDxs&mode=related&search=">4th</a> fight (against the 17-year-old "amateur boxer"). It's really pathetic to watch him work out his anger at folks who know he's a talentless hack by punching a 17-year-old in the head furiously.
But, his opponents did sign up for it...comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1443861Mon, 25 Sep 2006 01:23:32 -0800mediareportBy: martinrebas
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1443865
Many of Lowtax's ICQ pranks are brilliant:
http://www.somethingawful.com/pranksicq/comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1443865Mon, 25 Sep 2006 01:51:58 -0800martinrebasBy: jimmy
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1443874
<i>posted by frogan at 11:00 PM PST on September 24 [+] [!] </i>
you wouldn't happen to be one of the people mentioned <a href="http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=2873">here,</a> would you?comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1443874Mon, 25 Sep 2006 02:23:42 -0800jimmyBy: MrMustard
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1443883
What's with the 'Loxtax' tag?comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1443883Mon, 25 Sep 2006 03:13:20 -0800MrMustardBy: jiroczech
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1443892
In an ideal world, there would be a real boxer who would take offence at Uwe giving boxing a bad name with this bullying PR stunt. He'd proceed to challenge Uwe to a bout and subsequently knock the living shit out of him making an award winning film in the process. Then someone would make a game of the film.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1443892Mon, 25 Sep 2006 03:36:36 -0800jiroczechBy: Faint of Butt
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1443912
Why does Uwe Boll hate <strike>America</strike> <strike>Germany</strike> <strike>movies</strike> <strike>video games</strike> everything?comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1443912Mon, 25 Sep 2006 05:04:15 -0800Faint of ButtBy: MegoSteve
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1443917
It's pretty obvious that Uwe stacked the deck, and in the process made himself look pretty bad. That's okay, though... Lowtax got a free trip out of the deal for about five minutes of ring work.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1443917Mon, 25 Sep 2006 05:10:43 -0800MegoSteveBy: frecklefaerie
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1443918
My crush on Lowtax just had an exponential increase.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1443918Mon, 25 Sep 2006 05:12:00 -0800frecklefaerieBy: redteam
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1443923
Now I know what <em>ad hominem</em> looks like.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1443923Mon, 25 Sep 2006 05:15:54 -0800redteamBy: Ndwright
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1443942
While I admit the title "Raging Boll" is cute, I never want to have Uwe Boll and Raging Bull connected ever again, even in my mind, for fear that my thoughts could generate some sort of quantum wave which would somehow influence the world in such a way that leads Martin Scorsese to, in a fit of dementia, sign the remake rights of Raging Bull over to Uwe.
Raging Bull
Directed by Uwe Boll
:shudders:
I remember hearing about the challenge a few months ago, and I can't believe the critics actually went through with it. Nor can I believe that Uwe didn't chicken out.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1443942Mon, 25 Sep 2006 05:55:00 -0800NdwrightBy: empath
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1443959
Why would he chicken out, the guy looked like he knew what he was doing.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1443959Mon, 25 Sep 2006 06:36:34 -0800empathBy: Ndwright
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1443970
I was under the impression at the time that it was a Jack-Thompson-challenges-gamers type thing.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1443970Mon, 25 Sep 2006 07:02:41 -0800NdwrightBy: WinnipegDragon
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1444029
I never did hear how the last fight worked out.
What happened with the 17 year old?comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1444029Mon, 25 Sep 2006 08:31:14 -0800WinnipegDragonBy: Iridic
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1444033
Damn you, Ndwright! Even now <em>Uwe Boll's Raging Bull</em> coalesces out of the darkness.
<em>It is the year 2020. Boxer Jake "Slam Man" LaMotta (Stephen Dorff) battles his way through Neo York on his way to an epic confrontation with Silas Kane (Max Von Sydow), the undead head of the Mafia. Ignoring the warnings of his brother (Matthew Lillard) and his biochemicist wife (Heather Graham), LaMotta has turned to a drug called "Rage" to help him in his quest. Rage grants its users the ability to turn into inhumanly strong minotaurs for short periods of time--but is its use worth the massive weight gain that it triggers?</em>comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1444033Mon, 25 Sep 2006 08:32:39 -0800IridicBy: frogan
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1444066
<em>you wouldn't happen to be one of the people mentioned here, would you?</em>
Nope, but some of those people are my best friends. Rich is a unique person with a lot of talents, but "conscientious, hard-working colleague" just doesn't appear on his character sheet.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1444066Mon, 25 Sep 2006 08:57:27 -0800froganBy: mediareport
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1444116
<i>What happened with the 17 year old?</i>
He got the shit kicked out of him, hugged his mother and then took the microphone to tell the world Uwe Boll is "<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jm-KDf9xkk&mode=related&search=">a great guy and he makes great movies</a>."comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1444116Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:45:51 -0800mediareportBy: clockworkjoe
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1444205
There was an amateur boxer in Vancouver with several fights under his belt who wanted to fight Boll. Boll refused, only wanting people with no experience.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1444205Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:41:31 -0800clockworkjoeBy: quin
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1444234
<em>He got the shit kicked out of him, hugged his mother and then took the microphone to tell the world Uwe Boll is "a great guy and he makes great movies."</em>
And that, my friends, is the very definition of someone with a concussion.
<em>
Boll refused, only wanting people with no experience.</em>
Probably the same criteria he uses when choosing editors, and camera men, and scriptwriters.
Uwe Boll makes bad movies and someone should ask him to stop.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1444234Mon, 25 Sep 2006 11:00:47 -0800quinBy: sour cream
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1444322
quin: <em>Uwe Boll makes bad movies and someone should ask him to stop.</em>
Pishposh. It's not like he's hurting anyone in the process.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1444322Mon, 25 Sep 2006 12:26:45 -0800sour creamBy: watsondog
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1444324
Please, please tell me Lowtax got his ego deflated, even by a bit. He's a funny man, but he's still a horrendous raging egomaniac.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1444324Mon, 25 Sep 2006 12:28:00 -0800watsondogBy: keswick
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1444325
watsondog: he was on the forums within minutes registering his disgust and making lame excuses, which his thousands of sycophants eagerly lapped up, so I'd say "probably not."comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1444325Mon, 25 Sep 2006 12:30:28 -0800keswickBy: the cuban
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1444390
Good stuff.
I wish more directors and reviewers would slug it out.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1444390Mon, 25 Sep 2006 13:29:39 -0800the cubanBy: QuarterlyProphet
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1444475
It was hilarious. Lowtax had to actively work at getting a fight that he knew was going to result in him getting beat up. As an unabashed fan of Something Awful, I approve of anything that makes fun of Uwe Boll, has fighting, and somehow involves one of my favorite internet celebreties getting hurt.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1444475Mon, 25 Sep 2006 14:31:36 -0800QuarterlyProphetBy: ®@
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1444636
Man. Lowtax does great in the post-interview, but this whole thing just reaks of him being unprepared.
When you make your living making fun of people, cover your ass. Write a bunch of jokes ahead of time in the event you get the tar beaten out of you, don't just say "OMG HE LIED."
Also, for someone who runs a site that executes amazing internet pranks (remember Greenlighting?), Lowtax apparently has no idea how to do research. I'm pretty sure multiple people mentioned that Uwe is a boxer in Lowtax's forum posts, and it was ignored.
I remember thinking at the time "I hope he isn't brushing this off."
SA fanboying aside, he doesn't come off of this looking at all good. Trusting Uwe Boll is not a valid excuse.
PS:
frogan: please tell us stories.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1444636Mon, 25 Sep 2006 17:51:33 -0800®@By: frogan
http://www.metafilter.com/55033/Raging-Boll#1444734
<em>frogan: please tell us stories</em>
I never worked super-close with Lowtax, but it was a small company. We were all up in each other's corn.
It's funny, reading his <a href="http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=2873">background essay</a> linked to from above, he makes such a big deal of Darren "Dakota" Tabor being a lawyer, as if that automatically means Darren was an evil corporate back-stabber. Yes, Darren was a lawyer that loved games and left that behind to run GameSpy. But he wasn't a trial attorney or even a corporate lawyer -- he was a fast-rising judicial clerk for the Illinois and New Mexico State Supreme Courts, and he made his bones doing legal work for racial and AIDS-related issues. If he stuck with it, I'm certain he'd be a judge by now. So, comparing his legal background to ambulance-chasing shysters is like equating Emeril Lagasse with a hamburger-flipper at Hardees.
Darren just wanted Rich to, you know, show up and, like, you know, work. This was a write-your-own-ticket kind of job, and Rich wrote his as "fuck you i am on teh intarweb."
But that's Lowtax for ya'. Talking about Lowtax is like wrestling with a pig. You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.55033-1444734Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:36:30 -0800frogan
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