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Comments on MetaFilter post FlickrvisionMon, 14 May 2007 06:40:31 -0800Mon, 14 May 2007 06:40:31 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60Flickrvision
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision
<a href="http://flickrvision.com/">Flickervision</a> (beta). Also, <a href="http://twittervision.com/">Twittervision</a>.post:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141Mon, 14 May 2007 06:36:42 -0800psmealeymashupsflickrtwitterweb2.1googlemapsBy: Dave Faris
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691172
wow.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691172Mon, 14 May 2007 06:40:31 -0800Dave FarisBy: vellocet
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691176
damn. i'm going to end up sitting here all day in my bathrobe.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691176Mon, 14 May 2007 06:43:14 -0800vellocetBy: smackfu
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691177
They should limit it to cameraphone uploads.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691177Mon, 14 May 2007 06:43:19 -0800smackfuBy: drezdn
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691178
I got to say, flickrvision weirds me out far less than twittervision does.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691178Mon, 14 May 2007 06:43:24 -0800drezdnBy: smackfu
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691180
...although you have to geocode the photos, so I guess cameraphones won't have that until you get back to your computer anyway.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691180Mon, 14 May 2007 06:48:08 -0800smackfuBy: Plutor
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691184
<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691180">smackfu</a>: "<i>...although you have to geocode the photos, so I guess cameraphones won't have that until you get back to your computer anyway.</i>"
<a href="http://zonetag.research.yahoo.com/">ZoneTag</a> tags your photos with their location, which it knows based on the cell tower it's connecting to. Not perfect, but frequently close enough.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691184Mon, 14 May 2007 06:54:44 -0800PlutorBy: Alvy Ampersand
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691185
Flickrvision is very cool, thanks!
<small>Twittervision, not so much.</small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691185Mon, 14 May 2007 06:55:45 -0800Alvy AmpersandBy: teleskiving
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691186
Is there a way of slowing these down? The Flickr one is awesome.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691186Mon, 14 May 2007 06:58:12 -0800teleskivingBy: nicolin
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691188
looks like I'm going to mark nearly each and every post as my favourite. reminds me of the story of the map at scale 1:1
thanks anyway for another great findcomment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691188Mon, 14 May 2007 07:01:37 -0800nicolinBy: chuckdarwin
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691190
A very cool link (the first one - I'm not too sure about twitter)comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691190Mon, 14 May 2007 07:04:06 -0800chuckdarwinBy: seawallrunner
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691200
Flickrvision is cool - I would use it as a screensaver at work if I knew whether it was worksafe.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691200Mon, 14 May 2007 07:12:53 -0800seawallrunnerBy: vacapinta
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691202
Let me be the first dissenter...
Its sort of cool until you realize these are photos that are being uploaded now vs. taken now. So despite all that panning, its not really real-time.
And if its not real-time why not use <a href="http://flickr.com/map">Flickr Maps</a>, which lets you filter by date taken, date uploaded, tags, groups or even a particular person?comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691202Mon, 14 May 2007 07:15:17 -0800vacapintaBy: peacay
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691205
<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/59808/The-world-is-indeed-shrinking">twittervision previously.</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691205Mon, 14 May 2007 07:18:40 -0800peacayBy: Remy
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691208
And if you want a mappy version of geotagged blogs, try <a href="http://www.brainoff.com/geoblog/">The World As A Blog</a>. This is a few years old, though.
<small>I don't get the appeal of Twittervision, because it requires shoehorning metadata into places it's not designed to go.</small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691208Mon, 14 May 2007 07:23:22 -0800RemyBy: psmealey
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691212
<i>Its sort of cool until you realize these are photos that are being uploaded now vs. taken now. </i>
I don't see it that way. I that idea that someone at a given moment has chosen a particular photo, and decided (for whatever reason) to post to Flickr. It's more interesting, to me, to think of it as a window in mindsets the world over than it is a real time view into actions.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691212Mon, 14 May 2007 07:28:21 -0800psmealeyBy: Plutor
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691218
Web 2.0: It requires shoehorning metadata into places it's not designed to go.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691218Mon, 14 May 2007 07:40:22 -0800PlutorBy: caddis
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691244
neatcomment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691244Mon, 14 May 2007 08:05:33 -0800caddisBy: Dave Faris
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691257
So, all the creator of this site needs to do is grab the realtime cameraphone feeds instead of all of flickr?comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691257Mon, 14 May 2007 08:16:55 -0800Dave FarisBy: lemonfridge
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691268
and add timing controls and a STOP button. and Sat' imagery instead of just maps.
But I like this a lot.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691268Mon, 14 May 2007 08:26:03 -0800lemonfridgeBy: lodev
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691270
If you want even more semi-realtime happenings from all over the world (from Twitter), linked together with semi related pictures and videos and presented in a fantastically hypnotical way, check out <a href="http://www.incident.net/works/flussgeist/waiting/">Flussgeist/L'attente/The waiting</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691270Mon, 14 May 2007 08:28:41 -0800lodevBy: GuyZero
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691272
Never has so much accomplished so little.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691272Mon, 14 May 2007 08:30:36 -0800GuyZeroBy: chlorus
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691324
MetaFilter: i'm going to end up sitting here all day in my bathrobe.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691324Mon, 14 May 2007 09:09:47 -0800chlorusBy: phaedon
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691447
MetaFilter: Why fuck a stranger when you can fuck a friend.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691447Mon, 14 May 2007 11:34:39 -0800phaedonBy: inconsequentialist
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691459
I like the idea behind both of these sites. But I enjoy <a href="http://www.wefeelfine.org/">We Feel Fine</a>
a bit more (even though it's limited to Flickr photos and blogs that make reference to the way a person feels). The murmurs and montage sections offer a more fluid way of viewing the relevant material. That's a site I could stare at for hours.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691459Mon, 14 May 2007 11:47:01 -0800inconsequentialistBy: ninjew
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691553
I still don't get twitter. It's like an RSS feed of your life. But who cares?comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691553Mon, 14 May 2007 13:07:31 -0800ninjewBy: Quiplash
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691599
Love the flickrvision.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691599Mon, 14 May 2007 13:59:35 -0800QuiplashBy: Saellys
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691686
Whoa. I could stare at twittervision all day long.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691686Mon, 14 May 2007 15:07:34 -0800SaellysBy: liquorice
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691758
Heh, Flickrvision is fun...but I still don't understand this Twitter thing. People actually CARE about what strangers are doing at this very moment?comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691758Mon, 14 May 2007 16:00:44 -0800liquoriceBy: psmealey
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691760
<i>I still don't understand this Twitter thing. People actually CARE about what strangers are doing at this very moment?</i>
I'm guessing it really worked well at SxSW where you had multiple participants and multiple venues where events were happening simultaneously. Short of something very similar to that, I'm not sure I understand what other applications it might be used for.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691760Mon, 14 May 2007 16:03:34 -0800psmealeyBy: Poagao
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1691937
Hmm, it seems they've forgotten Taiwan exists. Oops.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1691937Mon, 14 May 2007 19:53:12 -0800PoagaoBy: dlisbona
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1692332
I can't get how Flickvision is working......when I clicked on several of the Flickrvision displayed pix to see the original photopage on Flickr, I don't see location information. Some of the posters have other geotagged photos, some don't have any geotagged photos.
I'm also seeing pix on Flickrvision which make me doubt the alleged geotagging (palm trees in Belgium, amazing seafront scenes in Minsk, Far Eastern waterfront scenes in London).
Can someone tell me what's going on?
Davidcomment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1692332Tue, 15 May 2007 07:44:11 -0800dlisbonaBy: dlisbona
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1692364
More anomalies after spending some more time looking at Flickrvision:
Photos from http://www.flickr.com/photos/visuellegedanken/ none of which seem to be geotagged
There was one photo of the Eiffel Tower from Milwaukee and another from Omaha
Arc de Triomphe in Germany?
An unusually large number of photos from Minsk, Belarus including dramatic seashores, many signs in English
Many photos from Taiwan
Very many photos from the same people
A photo of black barefoot children (who look very African to me) from Aachen, Germany
Many photos which don't make sense to be to be geotagged i.e. their content is totally location insensitive e.g. a picture of a gun
Any explanations?comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1692364Tue, 15 May 2007 08:11:06 -0800dlisbonaBy: seawallrunner
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1692461
yes, it's call tourism. people leave their hometowns in Milwaukee, Aachen and go to other places to take photos :)comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1692461Tue, 15 May 2007 08:56:05 -0800seawallrunnerBy: smackfu
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1692476
And then they label them as being from Milwaukee?comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1692476Tue, 15 May 2007 09:03:46 -0800smackfuBy: smackfu
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1692481
Aha, it's using the user's profile location. Kind of weird.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1692481Tue, 15 May 2007 09:08:57 -0800smackfuBy: Alvy Ampersand
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1692845
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http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1693577
I received a clarification yesterday from David Troy (the developer of FlickrVision)
<em>We use geotagging data from the actual photos where it is available, and then rely on the user's profile location in cases where it is not. Because less than 1% of photos are geotagged, we rely on user profile location heavily.</em>
This explains the pictures of the Eiffel Tower from Milwaukee and Omaha.......and all the other discrepancies.
The idea of FlickrVision is great and I'm sure that David Troy can find a way to show which photos are geolocated and which merely indicate the Flickr member's home location.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1693577Tue, 15 May 2007 23:37:40 -0800dlisbonaBy: drezdn
http://www.metafilter.com/61141/Flickrvision#1693813
<i>And then they label them as being from Milwaukee?</i>
There's the slight chance that it could be from our Bastille Days celebration, but that happened/happens in July, so someone would have to be really far behind or ahead in updating their photos.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61141-1693813Wed, 16 May 2007 06:57:22 -0800drezdn
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