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<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=NUeDjAkPgLc">A preachment dear friends, you're about to receive, on John Barleycorn, nicotine, and the temptations of Eve,</a> from the Good Reverend <a href=http://youtube.com/watch?v=zSJc72OC7Dg>Peter Sellers and his Muppet friends</a>.post:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937Sat, 09 Jun 2007 14:45:16 -0800homunculusCigarettesWhiskeyWomenMuppetsPeterSellersBy: homunculus
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723220
I got a <a href=http://youtube.com/watch?v=0yvHWyvexZA>fever</a>, and the only prescription... is <a href=http://youtube.com/watch?v=WBOohuZlAiM>more</a> <a href=http://youtube.com/watch?v=eDU-ZyBQRnQ>Animal!</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723220Sat, 09 Jun 2007 14:47:02 -0800homunculusBy: Smart Dalek
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723229
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwcqefO-CxU">Give praise, my bretheren, for what you're about to receive - old John Barleycorn, nicotine, and the Rock'n'Roll chord E</a>, featuring the Nails' cover of <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgVMMdOplHw">The Hombres' classic, "Let It All Hang Out".</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723229Sat, 09 Jun 2007 14:55:37 -0800Smart DalekBy: Baby_Balrog
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723267
Amen.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723267Sat, 09 Jun 2007 15:34:50 -0800Baby_BalrogBy: ibmcginty
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723269
That was exquisitely strange.
Some of my very earliest memories are of watching the Muppets. I remember Peter Ustinov, Lena Horne, and Linda Ronstadt, but not this. Hooray for YouTube.
And hooray for two-link YouTube posts.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723269Sat, 09 Jun 2007 15:35:07 -0800ibmcgintyBy: quin
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723270
<em>There used to be a me, but I had it surgically removed</em>
Brilliant.
Consider this, the Muppet show was ostensibly a <em>kids </em>program.
Can you imagine anything this surreal airing for children today? Tuned chickens? Not a chance. (unless they were trying to sell tuned chicken happy-meals that is...) I mean, my god, it's a song about drinking, smoking and wild women! Why the hell don't kids today get to experience this?
Personally I believe that much of what makes us good and interesting today, came from watching shows like the Muppets.
And of course, from absolute-fucking-geniuses like Peter Sellers. I worship that crazy bastard.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723270Sat, 09 Jun 2007 15:36:13 -0800quinBy: chuckdarwin
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723284
That's fantastic. I feel a cover coming on.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723284Sat, 09 Jun 2007 15:58:44 -0800chuckdarwinBy: Dr. Zira
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723287
Now I know why my parents insisted upon watching this every week. Thanks for the link, homunculus.
My husband just reminded me of the Roger Moore "<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0653238/quotes">If I could talk to the animals" number</a>, sung in full James Bond mode while fending off muppets all trying to kill him. Alas, I couldn't find a clip on YouTube.
[Heads off to add the DVDs to the Netflix queue.]
On preview: chuckdarwin, please make sure <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjeMDvCdrtc">it's not this cover.</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723287Sat, 09 Jun 2007 16:00:57 -0800Dr. ZiraBy: pax digita
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723288
I was in high school in the heyday of <em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Muppet_Show">The Muppet Show</a></em>; it was one of the best things about TV in the 70s. One of my fave performances was a (by then) rare TV appearance by <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=t2TZhruT-Xs">Harry Belafonte, here performing "Turn the World Around."</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723288Sat, 09 Jun 2007 16:01:43 -0800pax digitaBy: ZachsMind
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723290
<em>"...the Muppet show was ostensibly a kids program..."</em>
Not quite.
It was an attempt (and at the time a rocky one) by Henson to prove that you could have safe family entertainment on prime time which would work on multiple levels for both parents and their children. He was trying to graduate his muppets out of the children's show niche. Just like most talent, his muppets had been typecast.
Henson and his associates also did performances on the Ed Sullivan Show, Saturday Night Live, and Johnny Carson's Tonight Show, where he was decidedly not catering to children, but still, the end result was mature without going blue.
People still think of puppets as kiddie toys. Henson proved that presumption wrong countless times.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723290Sat, 09 Jun 2007 16:04:01 -0800ZachsMindBy: ZachsMind
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723293
As for Peter Sellers, there are not enough appropriate adjectives in the english language to correctly justify describing his genius.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723293Sat, 09 Jun 2007 16:05:50 -0800ZachsMindBy: quin
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723300
I guess your right ZM, maybe it's just because <em>I</em> was a kid when I was watching it.
Still, I stand by my point about it being surreal. You just don't get that in mainstream TV much anymore. Shame about that too, weird ages well.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723300Sat, 09 Jun 2007 16:12:18 -0800quinBy: TheWhiteSkull
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723302
One of the things that made the Muppets truly great (although I didn't realize it as a kid) was the sheer incongruity of some of the bits. <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=OCbuRA_D3KU">For example.</a>
Now if I could only find the one with the surprise guest star (who I think was actually a writer for the show) performing "Hawaiian Cowboy" from inside a wardrobe with a bunch of penguins in hula skirts as the chorus.
Actually, anything with penguins on the Muppet Show was usually awesome.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723302Sat, 09 Jun 2007 16:13:07 -0800TheWhiteSkullBy: ormondsacker
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723309
"Hawaiian Cowboy" writer chappie would be <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/talent/l/langham_chris.shtml">Christopher Langham</a>, if that helps you search.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723309Sat, 09 Jun 2007 16:23:21 -0800ormondsackerBy: Rich Smorgasbord
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723311
Those were great. I never thought of the Muppet Show as being for children. What a great song. The tuned chickens were pretty bonkers, kind of Pythonesque. It's a pity it had that annoying laugh track, which was what always annoyed me about Monty Python too.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723311Sat, 09 Jun 2007 16:24:44 -0800Rich SmorgasbordBy: ormondsacker
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723313
Langham <a href="http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Episode_519:_Chris_Langham">"was hastily made the guest for this episode after the original guest, Richard Pryor, was unable to make the taping."</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723313Sat, 09 Jun 2007 16:26:37 -0800ormondsackerBy: ulotrichous
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723316
According to Brian Henson's commentary on this episode from the Time-Life release, the 'there used to be a me' bit grew out of early discussions between the Muppet Show writers and Sellers. They were looking for gag ideas for "The Wall" segment, where Kermit just talks to the guest star, and Sellers flatly refused to consider being 'himself' on camera. The writers naturally ran with that idea.
There are many great episodes of the Muppet Show, but Peter Sellers is one of the very best.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723316Sat, 09 Jun 2007 16:31:31 -0800ulotrichousBy: ormondsacker
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723325
<a href="http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Richard_Pryor">..."because Pryor 'blew himself up freebasing'". </a>
Now <em>that's</em> a kid's show.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723325Sat, 09 Jun 2007 16:38:41 -0800ormondsackerBy: vronsky
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723326
I thought John Barleycorn must die.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723326Sat, 09 Jun 2007 16:40:20 -0800vronskyBy: Steven C. Den Beste
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723327
For me, the single strangest and most memorable moment in that entire series was when Alec Guinness was on it. In the wrap scene, he was out of character, being just himself.
And it was stunning; he was a blank slate. It really was almost as if his own person had been surgically removed.
I've heard that Alec Guinness was able to walk down a busy street and no one would notice him -- because no one would recognize him. I believe that, having seen him in that one scene.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723327Sat, 09 Jun 2007 16:41:08 -0800Steven C. Den BesteBy: Chuckles
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723335
<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=OCbuRA_D3KU&mode=related&search=">Animal, The Swedish Chief, and Beaker, sing Danny Boy.</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723335Sat, 09 Jun 2007 16:55:38 -0800ChucklesBy: Chuckles
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723336
ARGH!
<small>TheWhiteSkull, you need to try descriptive links..</small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723336Sat, 09 Jun 2007 16:57:48 -0800ChucklesBy: frecklefaerie
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723365
I love this clip. I went through a Peter Sellers phase just recently and bought this disk. I wish my kid were more into it so I could watch it all the time.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723365Sat, 09 Jun 2007 17:33:13 -0800frecklefaerieBy: Salmonberry
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723423
The tbs site has a lot of <a href="http://www.tbs.com/video/0,,103990|347034|,00.html">"Puppet Up!" clips</a> that they claim aren't censored, if you're into muppets and some adult humour!
<small>(Warning, their version of uncensored is, in fact, censored.)</small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723423Sat, 09 Jun 2007 18:48:55 -0800SalmonberryBy: Skygazer
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723440
Great stuff.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723440Sat, 09 Jun 2007 19:13:46 -0800SkygazerBy: Skygazer
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723452
ZachMind: <em>As for Peter Sellers, there are not enough appropriate adjectives in the english language to correctly justify describing his genius.
</em>
These words work pretty well:
<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=61q20-uhFDw">BIRDIE NUM NUM</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723452Sat, 09 Jun 2007 19:27:04 -0800SkygazerBy: miss lynnster
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723461
I can make a dress out of a food sack. <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=FIWpqSajYPM">I'm a Woman.</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723461Sat, 09 Jun 2007 19:38:30 -0800miss lynnsterBy: StopMakingSense
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723469
I'm not sure if I'll ever get a better chance to point people in the direction of my <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uakk2-75vog">friend-acted, no-budget, iMovie-edited, eight minute film of the exact same name, shot in a day for an undergraduate non-major directing class.</a>
The title was, in fact, inspired by this very clip.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723469Sat, 09 Jun 2007 19:58:49 -0800StopMakingSenseBy: sourwookie
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723495
PLAY TIGER BY THE TAIL!
/Buck Owens version.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723495Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:38:19 -0800sourwookieBy: malaprohibita
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723502
I love this clip. I saw it once as a kid, and remembered it ever since. Thirty years later, it's still fantastic.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723502Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:42:54 -0800malaprohibitaBy: longsleeves
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723509
Mala p you took the words right out of my mouth.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723509Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:47:23 -0800longsleevesBy: longsleeves
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723512
Jim Henson was a Genius. The Muppets' soul is with him in Valhalla.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723512Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:50:37 -0800longsleevesBy: jiawen
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723650
I remember very clearly being pretty scared and freaked out by "The Windmills of My Mind" when they did it on The Muppet Show.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723650Sun, 10 Jun 2007 00:48:29 -0800jiawenBy: homunculus
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723664
<a href=http://youtube.com/watch?v=tiFeGqaEphU>This one?</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723664Sun, 10 Jun 2007 01:13:06 -0800homunculusBy: homunculus
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723670
<a href=http://youtube.com/watch?v=cvnCKJCgCD8>Time In A Bottle</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723670Sun, 10 Jun 2007 01:33:47 -0800homunculusBy: Rhomboid
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723739
<i>People still think of puppets as kiddie toys. Henson proved that presumption wrong countless times.</i>
<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097858/">As has Peter Jackson.</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723739Sun, 10 Jun 2007 05:59:12 -0800RhomboidBy: MsMolly
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723820
<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=tvF4Dq4xhKU">School's out for summer</a>, y'all.
God, I love the Muppets.
Although, <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=nzUVFeccbtg">the worst fear, the last fear, just when I think I'm past fear</a> did terrify me when I was little.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723820Sun, 10 Jun 2007 07:59:03 -0800MsMollyBy: Area Control
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723834
Haaaahahahahaaaa. Excellent Sunday morning primer. Anyone with a hangover needs to watch the first clip.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723834Sun, 10 Jun 2007 08:16:22 -0800Area ControlBy: Astro Zombie
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723882
<a href="http://bottlegang.blogspot.com/2007/02/drinking-song-cigareetes-whusky-and.html">A little bit about the song referenced in this post.</a> Self-link.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723882Sun, 10 Jun 2007 09:03:10 -0800Astro ZombieBy: sleepy pete
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1723938
Man, thanks to homunculus for this post and to everyone else for all of the clips. Add me to the list of kids who grew up with the muppets. Also, add me to the list of people who were a little freaked by the Zero Mostel bit posted by MsMolly and Alice Cooper's "<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=dQ8Z5fjqOYs">Welcome to My Nightmare</a>" as a child, although watching Alice's performance now, it seems much more Milton Berle than Vincent Price.
And although it's not a direct Muppet Show clip, I love this video: <a href="http://laserbeast.com/">Lightning Bolt</a> + Muppets = <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=fFGBZRprwKI">Muppet Bolt</a>! <small>I didn't see this above, so if it's already here I apologize.</small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1723938Sun, 10 Jun 2007 10:06:37 -0800sleepy peteBy: raysmj
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1724067
I've always wanted to see the Muppets sing "After Midnight" with Eric Clapton. They'd all lean down and go back up whilst singing the "oooh-whaa!" part, with Eric standing up straight the whole time. Or maybe I did see this?comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1724067Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:36:34 -0800raysmjBy: taosbat
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1724119
<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=nocyBnKOO2w">G</a><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=SEFzjjig-YQ">i</a><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=W0WU2X7TbY4">g</a><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=dVrccqZQbzg">g</a><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=2xoadv21ttA">l</a><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=r0MDkN25hxE">e</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1724119Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:25:34 -0800taosbatBy: ZachsMind
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1724137
Earlier someone said the soul of the Muppets went with Henson? I respectfully disagree with that.
It was "Henson & Associates" and since his passing they've still done a lot of respectable stuff. I actually enjoyed the Christmas Carol with Michael Caine and Gonzo. I think post-Henson, they're still plugging. Admittedly Kermit's had to take a bit of a back seat, but there's enough creativity there to keep things hopping. You just can't keep a good pig down.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1724137Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:59:02 -0800ZachsMindBy: ZachsMind
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1724141
Ooh! And Treasure Island with TIM CURRY! That was great! Tho admittedly the best parts were Tim Curry and not necessarily the muppets but still... That rocked.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1724141Sun, 10 Jun 2007 14:03:55 -0800ZachsMindBy: Ogre Lawless
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1725279
Ho-
ly
CRAP!
My boss regularly hounds folks to see if they've ever heard of this song being done by the Henson crew -- a friend of his told him about it years ago and he's been itching to find it ever since.
He'll be no doubt happy.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1725279Mon, 11 Jun 2007 14:08:09 -0800Ogre LawlessBy: homunculus
http://www.metafilter.com/61937/Cigarettes-Whiskey-and-Wild-Wild-Women#1725832
Don't show it to him unless he gives you a raise.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61937-1725832Mon, 11 Jun 2007 23:14:01 -0800homunculus
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