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Comments on MetaFilter post Because learning is sexyFri, 21 Sep 2007 18:56:17 -0800Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:56:17 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60Because learning is sexy
http://www.metafilter.com/64919/Because-learning-is-sexy
Librarian Chick is a <a href="http://luxton.blogware.com/">blogger </a>who has put together a <a href="http://librarianchick.pbwiki.com/">wiki of literally hundreds of online learning sources </a>with over twenty categories for "students, educators & anyone else who's hip to learning." <br /><br />Also by the same author, a similarly vast collection <a href="http://shedreamsindigital.pbwiki.com/">of open source software resources</a>. All found <a href="http://goodshit.phlap.net">via</a>.post:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.64919Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:32:10 -0800jonsonresourcesreferencelearningeducationonlinestudentsteachersBy: nickyskye
http://www.metafilter.com/64919/Because-learning-is-sexy#1845926
Wow, that wiki is a generous, easy to use resource. A labor of love. Librarian Chick rocks! Totally enjoying <a href="http://luxton.blogware.com/">her rich blog </a>too. And thanks for the post jonson.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.64919-1845926Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:56:17 -0800nickyskyeBy: Alvy Ampersand
http://www.metafilter.com/64919/Because-learning-is-sexy#1845931
Wow indeed, nickyskye. Wow indeed.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.64919-1845931Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:01:54 -0800Alvy AmpersandBy: Jody Tresidder
http://www.metafilter.com/64919/Because-learning-is-sexy#1845941
Thanks very much, jonson. This looks terrific.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.64919-1845941Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:17:33 -0800Jody TresidderBy: carsonb
http://www.metafilter.com/64919/Because-learning-is-sexy#1845955
There've been a few of these online learning resource aggregations that I've seen (excellent every time), and between these and the "What other MeFi subsites would you like to see" question on MeTa a while back I had an idea: It would be awesome if there was a site that compiled free online courses and then matched up interested parties into a 'class' of 2 or more. Sort of like a dating site, or better yet an online chess forum, but for study partners. You could indicate a course you want to take and then wait for someone who's interested in the same topic to come along, then work through the material together. Or, peruse the courses with someone waiting for a study partner. Does this exist? If not, does anyone want to take the idea and run with it so I can sign up?comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.64919-1845955Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:33:29 -0800carsonbBy: DU
http://www.metafilter.com/64919/Because-learning-is-sexy#1845958
Great resource...but did you only include the word "sexy" because it's a female?comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.64919-1845958Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:35:54 -0800DUBy: RussHy
http://www.metafilter.com/64919/Because-learning-is-sexy#1845966
Five comments and 10 favorites, wow! I see why. great post.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.64919-1845966Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:45:19 -0800RussHyBy: LeLiLo
http://www.metafilter.com/64919/Because-learning-is-sexy#1845975
<i>did you only include the word "sexy" because it's a female?</i>
He was just quoting her — that's what she calls her own wiki.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.64919-1845975Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:54:35 -0800LeLiLoBy: kavasa
http://www.metafilter.com/64919/Because-learning-is-sexy#1845979
DU, <i>please</i>. Click the link again, then look at the title bar of your browser. And if you're going to be hyper-sensitive, at least try not to refer to women as its.
Annnnnnnnnnnyway! Thanks jonson! Man. Am going to melt my brain with this site.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.64919-1845979Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:55:31 -0800kavasaBy: stbalbach
http://www.metafilter.com/64919/Because-learning-is-sexy#1845982
Carsonb, sounds like an interesting idea!
When I first got involved with Wikipedia three years ago I had a utopian ideal of learned and like-minded strangers cordially working together on a scholarly project. Man was my bubble burst!
I'm convinced the teacher/student model of learning is still the best way - the University system has remained resilient for almost 900 years despite every generation trying new ways.
So the question is how does one create a free online University system - I have not seen it yet and the response to Wikipedia suggests there is a huge pent up demand for it, but Wikipedia is a nightmare, probably because it is an honor system and "cultures of honor" breed intractable civility problems.
In Bologna, where the first European University started in the 11th century, the studently would form groups and pool their money and decide what they wanted to learn and then hire a teacher to teach them, with the power to fire that teacher at any time. Perhaps there is a market for freelance teachers and student designed courses.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.64919-1845982Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:00:43 -0800stbalbachBy: SassHat
http://www.metafilter.com/64919/Because-learning-is-sexy#1845987
Someone's sucking up to the mods...what's next Johnson, a post about cyclists who wear glasses? Or maybe musical Jesus-alikes.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.64919-1845987Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:08:54 -0800SassHatBy: miss lynnster
http://www.metafilter.com/64919/Because-learning-is-sexy#1846002
I keep clicking her links to applications that sound like something I could really use... but inevitably the application isn't Mac-friendly.
Not Librarian Chick's fault of course. But... wah.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.64919-1846002Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:28:59 -0800miss lynnsterBy: delmoi
http://www.metafilter.com/64919/Because-learning-is-sexy#1846008
<i>When I first got involved with Wikipedia three years ago I had a utopian ideal of learned and like-minded strangers cordially working together on a scholarly project. Man was my bubble burst!</i>
Well, wikipedia may not be some platonic ideal of whatever, and the wikipedia litigation process certainly seems insane, with all the layers of beurocracy, but the ultimate product is pretty fucking useful.
I mean, can you imagine metafilter with 150 times as many visitors and no $5 fee to post? because that's wikipedia. To put that into perspective, it's <a href="http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?site0=wikipedia.org&site1=myspace.com&site2=facebook.com&site3=&site4=&h=300&w=610&h=400&w=700&z=3&range=6m&size=Medium&y=r&z=3&url=wikipedia.org">more popular then myspace</a>.
So I don't know what you had in mind, but the result is pretty fucking sweet.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.64919-1846008Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:32:57 -0800delmoiBy: Danila
http://www.metafilter.com/64919/Because-learning-is-sexy#1846046
Thank you very much for this post. I never went to college, but I have a deep love of learning. Resources like this are why I love the internet.
I also love your idea <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/64919/Because-learning-is-sexy#1845955">carsonb</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.64919-1846046Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:27:47 -0800DanilaBy: Lynsey
http://www.metafilter.com/64919/Because-learning-is-sexy#1846057
Posts like this are what make me wanna say,
"I ♥ jonson!"comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.64919-1846057Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:49:58 -0800LynseyBy: caddis
http://www.metafilter.com/64919/Because-learning-is-sexy#1846154
Cool.
(Also, this reminds me of the interweb in 1994 or so.)comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.64919-1846154Sat, 22 Sep 2007 04:57:16 -0800caddisBy: Biblio
http://www.metafilter.com/64919/Because-learning-is-sexy#1846204
<em>In Bologna, where the first European University started in the 11th century, the studently would form groups and pool their money and decide what they wanted to learn and then hire a teacher to teach them, with the power to fire that teacher at any time. Perhaps there is a market for freelance teachers and student designed courses.
posted by stbalbach </em>
This happens all the time among homeschoolers. Sometimes the teacher is a parent with an expertise in the subject, and sometimes it's a third-party teacher, often a grad student or a retired educator.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.64919-1846204Sat, 22 Sep 2007 07:11:51 -0800BiblioBy: stbalbach
http://www.metafilter.com/64919/Because-learning-is-sexy#1847331
<i>the ultimate product is pretty fucking useful</i>
It's ok. I mean, take Bibliographies for example. There are a handful of Bibliographies that are any good. Creating a useful Bibliography is one of the more difficult things to do - it takes an expert who is familiar with the corpus of works and who can distill them down into the most important. That takes years or reading and experience. Meanwhile, Joe Bob adds his favorite book to the list (or worse, the book he wrote).
Then take footnotes. What a joke! I can find a footnote that will support just about anything, footnotes don't make it right. And who checks these footnotes to make sure they actually say it? I often see accurate and well written articles that have no footnotes get trashed by well meaning but ignorant users - meanwhile articles with footnotes expose all sorts of strange and non-mainstream views.
Wikipedia gives the appearance of being scholarly and useful but in fact is often just the opposite. Sorry I didn't mean to derail this thread into a rant against Wikipedia. My original point is the demand for Wikipedia suggests a huge pent-up demand for online education with more substance.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.64919-1847331Sun, 23 Sep 2007 07:31:36 -0800stbalbachBy: philomathoholic
http://www.metafilter.com/64919/Because-learning-is-sexy#1848253
People who click on your 'via' link while at work might be unhappily surprised.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.64919-1848253Mon, 24 Sep 2007 02:49:05 -0800philomathoholic
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