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<a href="http://www.legendsofamerica.com/OZ-Benders.html">The Benders</a> were a family of German immigrants who opened a store and restaurant in the newly formed state of Kansas in the late 19th century. Led by the <a href="http://www.spirithistory.com/">spiritualist</a> <a href="http://www.kshs.org/portraits/bender_kate.htm">Kate</a>, they also were some of the United States <a href="http://www.prairieghosts.com/bender.html">first serial killers</a>. <br /><br /><a href="http://www.leatherockhotel.com/BloodyBenders.htm">Here's another site</a> on the Benders, from the hotel that houses what's left of the Bender museum in Cherryvale, just watch out for the red background. As an added bonus, you can use <a href="http://www.loc.gov/chroniclingamerica/">this very cool historic newspaper search </a>from the Library of Congress (<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/63785/Chronicling-America-Historic-American-Newspapers">as posted by cog_nate</a>) to read news stories about what happened to the Benders. Here's a hint: several people were wrongfully arrested, but the Benders were never captured. Also, most believe they weren't even a family. <small>They were liars and murderers!</small>post:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:43:42 -0800sleepy petebendersbloodybenderskansashistorykillersfamilykansashistoryserialkillernineteenthcentury1800sspiritualismmurdernotthedamnrobotBy: klangklangston
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1850314
Brings new meaning to "On a bender..."comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850314Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:46:33 -0800klangklangstonBy: Ambrosia Voyeur
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1850320
notthedamanrobot? Oh well.
Here's a site dedicated to their great-great grand delinquent, and cutie, <a href="http://nitriside.tripod.com/JuddNelson.html">John</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850320Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:54:44 -0800Ambrosia VoyeurBy: delmoi
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1850327
In William Gibson's newest book one of the characters talks about "<a href="http://www.dhushara.com/book/consum/gnos/lerner.htm">Heresy of the Free Spirit</a>" who supposedly were a bunch of fornicators and cannibals. But I don't know how accurate Gibson's character's description actually is.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850327Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:57:57 -0800delmoiBy: marxchivist
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1850328
Coolposthanks!comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850328Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:58:34 -0800marxchivistBy: doctorschlock
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1850330
Back in the day...when you ate out..you where taking your life into your own hands. Bad Boy H. H. Holmes was the king of them all.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850330Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:01:59 -0800doctorschlockBy: Artw
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Awesome post!comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850331Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:02:49 -0800ArtwBy: bstreep
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1850340
Isn't there a comic book covering these events?comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850340Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:12:48 -0800bstreepBy: doctor_negative
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1850350
Cool post sleepy pete. I love weird Americana.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850350Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:21:25 -0800doctor_negativeBy: amyms
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1850360
Great post, sleepy pete! I had heard stories about the "Butchering Benders" but never in this much detail.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850360Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:25:58 -0800amymsBy: davejay
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1850361
Good post. Never heard of these folks, and I'm from the midwest.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850361Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:27:33 -0800davejayBy: blueberry
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1850373
<small><i>Isn't there a comic book covering these events?
posted by bstreep at 2:12 PM on September 25</i></small>
Yep, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1561634980/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/"><i>A Treasury of Victorian Murder: The Bloody Benders</i></a> by Rick Geary.
<small><small><small>(<a href="http://catalog.multcolib.org/search/Ybloody+benders&searchscope=1&SORT=D/Ybloody+benders&searchscope=1&SORT=D&SUBKEY=bloody%20benders/1%2C3%2C3%2CB/frameset&FF=Ybloody+benders&searchscope=1&SORT=D&1%2C1%2C">Multnomah County Library link for Portlanders</a>)</small></small></small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850373Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:36:00 -0800blueberryBy: sleepy pete
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1850375
I actually grew up near the site where the Benders lived (still known as Bender's Mound), where the state of Kansas has thoughtfully erected a <a href="http://skyways.lib.ks.us/history/benders.html">historical marker </a>along <a href="http://skyways.lib.ks.us/towns/us160.html">Highway US 160</a>. There's nothing to look at except a large hill, but what a weird historical marker.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850375Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:37:59 -0800sleepy peteBy: sleepy pete
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<small>Thanks, blueberry. I just placed a hold on it.</small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850389Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:47:19 -0800sleepy peteBy: Roman Graves
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1850403
Awesome post, and equally awesome comment blueberry. I can't believe I've never heard this before.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850403Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:58:57 -0800Roman GravesBy: cenoxo
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1850407
The <a href="http://kshs.org/cool2/benderknife.htm">Kansas State Historical Society</a> has more details, along with photos of the <a href="http://kshs.org/cool2/graphics/benderfarm.jpg">dug-up graves</a>, a <a href="http://kshs.org/cool2/graphics/benderknifelg.jpg">knife</a> from the Benders' house, and a Wanted <a href="http://kshs.org/cool2/graphics/benderproclamation.jpg">poster</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850407Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:05:27 -0800cenoxoBy: pxe2000
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Am I wrong for wondering if the Benders used some of their corpses for dishes in their restaurant? Something about those two fields together reminds me of <i>Sweeney Todd</i>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850423Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:16:09 -0800pxe2000By: Curry
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What's the matter with Kansas?comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850426Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:17:40 -0800CurryBy: blueberry
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1850433
By the way, Rick Geary has some other books in the same true-crime area: <i><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1561631892/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/">The Borden Tragedy</a></i> <small><small><small>(<a href="http://catalog.multcolib.org/search/a?searchtype=Y&searcharg=The+Borden+Tragedy&SORT=R&searchscope=1&submit=Search+catalog">mcl</a>)</small></small></small>, <i><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1561633658/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/">The Beast of Chicago</a></i> <small><small><small>(<a href="http://catalog.multcolib.org/search/YThe+Beast+of+Chicago&searchscope=1&SORT=D/YThe+Beast+of+Chicago&searchscope=1&SORT=D&SUBKEY=The%20Beast%20of%20Chicago/1%2C15%2C15%2CB/frameset&FF=YThe+Beast+of+Chicago&searchscope=1&SORT=D&1%2C1%2C">mcl</a>)</small></small></small>, <i><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1561634670/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/">The Case of Madeleine Smith</a></i> <small><small><small>(<a href="http://catalog.multcolib.org/search/YThe+Case+of+Madeleine+Smith&searchscope=1&SORT=D/YThe+Case+of+Madeleine+Smith&searchscope=1&SORT=D&SUBKEY=The%20Case%20of%20Madeleine%20Smith/1%2C2%2C2%2CB/frameset&FF=YThe+Case+of+Madeleine+Smith&searchscope=1&SORT=D&1%2C1%2C">mcl</a>)</small></small></small>, <i><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1561634263/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/">The Murder of Abraham Lincoln</a></i> <small><small><small>(<a href="http://catalog.multcolib.org/search/YThe+Murder+of+Abraham+Lincoln&searchscope=1&SORT=D/YThe+Murder+of+Abraham+Lincoln&searchscope=1&SORT=D&SUBKEY=The%20Murder%20of%20Abraham%20Lincoln/1%2C11%2C11%2CB/frameset&FF=YThe+Murder+of+Abraham+Lincoln&searchscope=1&SORT=D&1%2C1%2C">mcl</a>)</small></small></small>, <i><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1561632880/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/">The Mystery of Mary Rogers</a></i> <small><small><small>(<a href="http://catalog.multcolib.org/search/YThe+Mystery+of+Mary+Rogers&searchscope=1&SORT=D/YThe+Mystery+of+Mary+Rogers&searchscope=1&SORT=D&SUBKEY=The%20Mystery%20of%20Mary%20Rogers/1%2C4%2C4%2CB/frameset&FF=YThe+Mystery+of+Mary+Rogers&searchscope=1&SORT=D&1%2C1%2C">mcl</a>)</small></small></small>, and <i><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1561631248/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/">Jack the Ripper</a></i> <small><small><small>(<a href="http://catalog.multcolib.org/search/YJack+the+Ripper&searchscope=1&SORT=D/YJack+the+Ripper&searchscope=1&SORT=D&SUBKEY=Jack%20the%20Ripper/1%2C45%2C45%2CB/frameset&FF=YJack+the+Ripper&searchscope=1&SORT=D&8%2C8%2C">mcl</a>)</small></small></small>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850433Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:22:17 -0800blueberryBy: Roman Graves
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1850446
And <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1561632287/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/">The Fatal Bullet</a>. I must have them all!comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850446Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:35:55 -0800Roman GravesBy: UbuRoivas
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but nobody who speaks german could be a bad person!comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850455Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:48:18 -0800UbuRoivasBy: Smedleyman
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1850466
How nice, our own sort of <a href="http://www.mysteriousbritain.co.uk/legends/sawney_bean.html">Sawney Bean</a> family. I mean, sure a cannibal family is ok, but there's no cannibal family like an <a href="http://www.sawneybean.com">incestuous cannibal family</a> (Gives a whole 'nother meaning to the term 'hairy tree')comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850466Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:01:56 -0800SmedleymanBy: UbuRoivas
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1850475
Katie Bender, as she was sometimes called, engages the unfortunate stranger in flirtatious conversation at the iron cooking and heating stove while she <a href="http://www.leatherockhotel.com/bender%20KatePC.htm"><strong>prepares to serve up her main course, DEATH</strong></a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850475Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:15:36 -0800UbuRoivasBy: ZenMasterThis
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1850485
<i>The Benders were a family of German immigrants...</i>
Oh, man, what a great name for a band.
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome ... A Family of German Immigrants!comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850485Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:28:08 -0800ZenMasterThisBy: Smedleyman
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1850509
Here's my impression of a German immigrant:
*ahem*
<small> Gutenmorgen, bin ich ein deutscher einwanderer. </small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850509Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:45:58 -0800SmedleymanBy: annieb
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1850515
Great post, and now it's leading to even more interesting reading. Thanks!comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850515Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:49:27 -0800anniebBy: yerfatma
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1850572
Fantastic post. Thanks.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850572Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:47:38 -0800yerfatmaBy: porpoise
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1850581
Restauranteurs killing passing travellers was a phenomenon (and frequently fictionalized) in medieval China - and yes, the remains were used to prepare food for future guests.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850581Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:59:18 -0800porpoiseBy: Riverine
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1850601
It makes me twitch, the way he keeps writing "The Bender's" as the plural, the "first serial killers" link. Is this really a published book? How ignorant.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850601Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:22:02 -0800RiverineBy: stupidsexyFlanders
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1850652
<em>Kate a self- proclaimed healer and spiritualist and reported to be a beautiful, voluptuous girl with tigerish grace
</em>
I'd hit it.
THAT'S WHAT SHE SAIDcomment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850652Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:58:34 -0800stupidsexyFlandersBy: DamnYouSerpico
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1850662
america has a crazy history that mostly goes untold. I love these facts, nice post.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850662Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:04:45 -0800DamnYouSerpicoBy: ZenMasterThis
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1850682
Come to think of it ... No shit, I actually had a phys ed teacher in grammar school in the 70's named Mr. Bender. You don't suppose ... ?comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850682Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:22:42 -0800ZenMasterThisBy: Roman Graves
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1850692
The first and last link give totally different accounts of how the Benders were found out. Also, I'm not clear on how the last link can provide so much information about such a mysterious and never-caught group of people. How do they know they weren't really family, or exactly who Ma Bender was?comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850692Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:30:33 -0800Roman GravesBy: rougy
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1850788
Thanks.
I think the fact that they were never found is the scariest aspect of all.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850788Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:00:55 -0800rougyBy: doctor_negative
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1850888
ZMT, that's weird, so did I. Did you go to Linda Mar Elementary?comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1850888Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:37:14 -0800doctor_negativeBy: Foosnark
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1851161
Hmmm, I know a Bender too. Wonder if she's related? Heh.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1851161Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:07:41 -0800FoosnarkBy: LilBucner
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1851641
Their original family name was shortened at Ellis Island. It was originally Bender Bending Rodriguez.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1851641Wed, 26 Sep 2007 13:15:46 -0800LilBucnerBy: ZenMasterThis
http://www.metafilter.com/65016/Mass-murdering-restauranteurs-the-Benders#1853510
<b>doctor_negative</b> No; Rockaway Valley elementary in NJ.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.65016-1853510Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:12:08 -0800ZenMasterThis
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