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<a href="http://www.scaryforkids.com/who-goes-there-by-john-w-campbell/">Who Goes There</a> - the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_W_Campbell">John W. Campbell</a> short story which inspired the movies The Thing from Another World and, closer to the original, <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2009/aug/27/the-thing-john-carpenter">The Thing</a> (which, apparently, was horribly critically mauled upon release but has since become as much as a classic as the 50s film). The story is now being <a href="http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2009/09/review-who-goes-there-by-john-w-campbell/">reprinted</a> alongside a treatment by <i>Logan's Run</i> author <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_F._Nolan">William F. Nolan</a> for an unmade 1978 screen version.post:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.84671Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:02:30 -0800ArtwWritingFilmScienceFictionJohnCarpenterJohnWCampbellWilliamFNolanTheThingWhoGoesThereTheThingFromAnotherWorldHorrorBy: Artw
http://www.metafilter.com/84671/Watch-the-skies#2721574
The Carpenter version of The Thing also has the best DVD commentary known to humanity.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.84671-2721574Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:05:31 -0800ArtwBy: Kattullus
http://www.metafilter.com/84671/Watch-the-skies#2721582
The first book of non-juvenile science fiction I got from my local library was a collection of John W. Campbell's short stories. For the next five years I barely read anything but science fiction. Who Goes There was a particularly vivid read.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.84671-2721582Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:08:52 -0800KattullusBy: Artw
http://www.metafilter.com/84671/Watch-the-skies#2721590
You'll notice his thing about telepathy works it's way in their too.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.84671-2721590Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:14:08 -0800ArtwBy: nj_subgenius
http://www.metafilter.com/84671/Watch-the-skies#2721801
Not so interested in a screen treatment that never got done...
John Carpenter's version beats Christian Nyby's into a deep coma.
I haven't read anything else by John W. Campbell, but Who Goes There? is a terrific story.
Seconding Carpenter's and Kurt Russel's commentary as great, mostly because they seemed to be having so much fun. The other bonus bits are really very good as well.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.84671-2721801Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:48:54 -0800nj_subgeniusBy: doctor_negative
http://www.metafilter.com/84671/Watch-the-skies#2721836
I absolutely love the 50's version but not because it's a good movie. It has some of the weirdest, most formulaic dialog ever committed to film.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.84671-2721836Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:01:58 -0800doctor_negativeBy: i_am_joe's_spleen
http://www.metafilter.com/84671/Watch-the-skies#2721873
I remember reading that very story as a kid! I loved it.
The writing grates something terrible now though. The crude physical descriptions of all the men, for example, read like the prelude to some terrible amateur gay porn.
<i>Vance Norris moved angrily. He was comparatively short in this gathering of big men, some five-feet-eight, and his stocky, powerful build tended to make him seem shorter. His black hair was crisp and hard, like short, steel wires, and his eyes were the gray of fractured steel. If McReady was a man of bronze, Norris was all steel. His movements, his thoughts, his whole bearing had the quick, hard impulse of steel spring. His nerves were steel - hard, quick-acting - swift corroding.</i>
It just needs something about his hard cock.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.84671-2721873Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:27:53 -0800i_am_joe's_spleenBy: billypilgrim
http://www.metafilter.com/84671/Watch-the-skies#2721909
The Thing is easily in my horror top three. It's one of a few movies I have throw on every time it's mentioned. This post makes me warm and tendrilly on the inside.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.84671-2721909Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:52:25 -0800billypilgrimBy: Poet_Lariat
http://www.metafilter.com/84671/Watch-the-skies#2722014
>I haven't read anything else by John W. Campbell, but Who Goes There? is a terrific story.
Campbell often wrote under pseudonyms so that other writers submitting to his magazine would'nt throw a possibly justified hissy-fit. He wasn't a prolific writer but he did write a few gems. One of my favorites that I read as a teenager, aside from the one mentioned here, is "Twilight"comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.84671-2722014Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:56:11 -0800Poet_LariatBy: tkchrist
http://www.metafilter.com/84671/Watch-the-skies#2722017
Excellent movie. I refer anyone who thinks that disaster <em>District 9</em> was a "good" film to Carpenter's version of The Thing. You can have great well developed characters, a dark story with deeper themes of the meaning of identity, plus a subtle and complex commentary on race and STILL have a kick-ass sci-fi action movie with few distracting plot holes.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.84671-2722017Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:58:32 -0800tkchristBy: cyphill
http://www.metafilter.com/84671/Watch-the-skies#2722028
<i>The Thing</i> is truly an amazing movie. I love how the destroyed Norwegian(?) set is actually the burned torn up set from the end of the movie. It also has one of the only good endings I've ever seen in a horror movie.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.84671-2722028Tue, 01 Sep 2009 17:02:48 -0800cyphillBy: Amanojaku
http://www.metafilter.com/84671/Watch-the-skies#2722116
You know, I didn't read "Who Goes There?" until I was an adult, and already had a lot of science fiction under my belt. I was expecting it to be a little like "Black Destroyer" -- a "classic" in the field, but not really a story that still held up decades later.
I was wrong.
No, the science doesn't work in light of decades of genetics research, and the "two-fisted scientist hero" archetype is viewed as a bit cornball now ... but this was a story that was that much creepier because it was scientifically rigorous (Campbell's thing for ESP aside). I mean, the blood in the petri dish scene? It's awesome, and makes total sense. To me, this story is the epitome of science fiction, and it's a real shame that lots of today's readers (and, frankly, writers) don't seem to have a palette broad enough to include much from before 1985 or so.
Anyway. Got to remember this for a "Previously" link for when I finally get around to doing a post on <i>Astounding.</i.</i>comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.84671-2722116Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:15:33 -0800AmanojakuBy: shavenwarthog
http://www.metafilter.com/84671/Watch-the-skies#2722308
As a kid I remember very few comics, but one that scared me witless was a version of The Thing. The frame showing "alien blood leaping away from a hot flame" still gives me the willies 25 years later. So awesome!comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.84671-2722308Tue, 01 Sep 2009 20:57:37 -0800shavenwarthogBy: Infinite Jest
http://www.metafilter.com/84671/Watch-the-skies#2722481
As an aside, a prequel to Carpenter's Thing is apparently being planned:
"Matthijs van Heijningen, whose CV consists largely of drinks commercials, is set to direct a screenplay by Ronald D Moore, erstwhile executive producer and writer of Star Trek, Roswell High and Battlestar Galactica. The prequel will be set in the Norwegian camp, which, as we already know from Carpenter's film, is doomed. "(<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2009/aug/27/the-thing-john-carpenter">Guardian</a>; well worth reading as an analysis of Carpenter's film).comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.84671-2722481Wed, 02 Sep 2009 00:35:26 -0800Infinite JestBy: Artw
http://www.metafilter.com/84671/Watch-the-skies#2722648
Yeah, I'm just going to ignore that.
I've heard the computer game was kind of interesting.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.84671-2722648Wed, 02 Sep 2009 07:01:36 -0800ArtwBy: Artw
http://www.metafilter.com/84671/Watch-the-skies#2728063
Lovers of bad prose and alien Antarctic weirdness may wish to check out Hive, the "sequel" to Mountains of Madness by Tim Curran. It manages to reference the 50s Thing film and then seem to rip off the short story (the evil eyes!) within paragraphs. There's a fair bit of Quatermass Experiment in there too.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.84671-2728063Sat, 05 Sep 2009 13:18:28 -0800ArtwBy: Artw
http://www.metafilter.com/84671/Watch-the-skies#2728123
...actually more Quatermass and the Pit.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.84671-2728123Sat, 05 Sep 2009 14:29:11 -0800ArtwBy: Artw
http://www.metafilter.com/84671/Watch-the-skies#2728254
And, now I've reached the end of it, it references the 80s Thing as well.
Now I have to reread A Colder War to purge myself of it.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.84671-2728254Sat, 05 Sep 2009 18:32:41 -0800ArtwBy: wolfewarrior
http://www.metafilter.com/84671/Watch-the-skies#2737593
A.M.U. -- All male universe. There isn't a female character in the whole movie if you don't count the chess playing computer as a female( and really why would you?) I always thought that was kind of odd and something no movie would ever do nowadays.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.84671-2737593Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:13:29 -0800wolfewarrior
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