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Comments on MetaFilter post The Demoscene is alive and kickingTue, 05 Oct 2010 06:44:43 -0800Tue, 05 Oct 2010 06:44:43 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60The Demoscene is alive and kicking
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The latest thing they're doing with Commodore 64s - <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDrqBYkco-Y">Cubase 64</a> <br /><br />Sample is from <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z66rDVkaK4w">Tom's Diner</a> by Suzanne Vegapost:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96357Tue, 05 Oct 2010 06:33:59 -0800azarbayejaniC64Commodore64ProgrammingMusicCubaseDSPBy: crapmatic
http://www.metafilter.com/96357/The-Demoscene-is-alive-and-kicking#3312624
I'm confused -- are they passing the audio through and using the C64 as a realtime processor or is the wave file preloaded in RAM? I remember 25 years ago having an almost identical playback program of Carl Douglas' "Kung Fu Fighting"... the playtime was about 20 seconds. If they're storing Tom's Diner in 64 KB, I don't understand how they could only pack in 20 seconds of Kung Fu Fighting back in the day.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96357-3312624Tue, 05 Oct 2010 06:44:43 -0800crapmaticBy: CitoyenK
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Very impressive! Made me nostalgic, i miss my C64!comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96357-3312631Tue, 05 Oct 2010 06:50:57 -0800CitoyenKBy: azarbayejani
http://www.metafilter.com/96357/The-Demoscene-is-alive-and-kicking#3312639
They are realtime audio effects, as far as I can tell. <a href="http://www.livet.se/mahoney/index_download.php">Here</a> is the source code, by the way.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96357-3312639Tue, 05 Oct 2010 06:55:17 -0800azarbayejaniBy: jquinby
http://www.metafilter.com/96357/The-Demoscene-is-alive-and-kicking#3312648
I approve of this and all things related to the C64.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96357-3312648Tue, 05 Oct 2010 07:03:11 -0800jquinbyBy: davemee
http://www.metafilter.com/96357/The-Demoscene-is-alive-and-kicking#3312654
But where's Kaktus? (I saw their acapella band, Vokalas, doing c64 covers a few years ago at a Back In Time event in London, actually really good. Tufvesson's a real renaissance man.)comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96357-3312654Tue, 05 Oct 2010 07:05:44 -0800davemeeBy: azarbayejani
http://www.metafilter.com/96357/The-Demoscene-is-alive-and-kicking#3312656
Also, this is how it works <a href="http://www.livet.se/mahoney/c64-files/Cubase64_White_Paper_by_Pex_Mahoney_Tufvesson.pdf">(PDF)</a>. Admittedly, I should have put all of this in the original post.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96357-3312656Tue, 05 Oct 2010 07:08:56 -0800azarbayejaniBy: b1tr0t
http://www.metafilter.com/96357/The-Demoscene-is-alive-and-kicking#3312705
Impressive audio effects, but it is kind of silly to call it <a href="http://www.velvetacidchrist.com/2010/03/08/sequencing-atari-st-cubase-2-0/">cubase</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96357-3312705Tue, 05 Oct 2010 07:45:39 -0800b1tr0tBy: The Winsome Parker Lewis
http://www.metafilter.com/96357/The-Demoscene-is-alive-and-kicking#3312765
I hear Mahoney's next project is to run Crysis on that thing.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96357-3312765Tue, 05 Oct 2010 08:15:08 -0800The Winsome Parker LewisBy: ardgedee
http://www.metafilter.com/96357/The-Demoscene-is-alive-and-kicking#3312824
This is nuts. I wish I had something more constructive to say, but I don't. It's just too nuts.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96357-3312824Tue, 05 Oct 2010 08:45:37 -0800ardgedeeBy: hellphish
http://www.metafilter.com/96357/The-Demoscene-is-alive-and-kicking#3312949
This is really awesome. My chiptune writing friends are gonna flip.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96357-3312949Tue, 05 Oct 2010 10:03:12 -0800hellphishBy: mintcake!
http://www.metafilter.com/96357/The-Demoscene-is-alive-and-kicking#3313055
Oh man, that's cool. GREETZ.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96357-3313055Tue, 05 Oct 2010 10:40:36 -0800mintcake!By: Galaxor Nebulon
http://www.metafilter.com/96357/The-Demoscene-is-alive-and-kicking#3313130
crapmatic, it looks like they were able to pack the whole 2 minutes into the RAM because of an eXXXtreme compression scheme custom tailored to the human voice. In the whitepaper pdf, it says that it took over 25 minutes on a "state-of-the-art" computer to compress the 2min of audio down to like 54kb (they couldn't use the whole 64).
I have flipped.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96357-3313130Tue, 05 Oct 2010 11:05:31 -0800Galaxor NebulonBy: We had a deal, Kyle
http://www.metafilter.com/96357/The-Demoscene-is-alive-and-kicking#3313137
<i>is the wave file preloaded in RAM?</i>
Preloaded to RAM after some very heavy, and very domain-specific, off-line compression. The choice of Tom's Diner, a solo female acapella, was not accidental.
The PDF has the details and is fascinating reading.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96357-3313137Tue, 05 Oct 2010 11:06:59 -0800We had a deal, KyleBy: sotonohito
http://www.metafilter.com/96357/The-Demoscene-is-alive-and-kicking#3313606
Extremely impressive, but not quite as impressive as advertised.
The audio they're playing with is, necessarily, severely downgraded and lowsampled. Thus a processor as weak as that of the C64 is able to, with some extremely impressive programming, play realtime games with it.
Processing the audio at quality we'd consider listenable today would, I'm almost certain, take a more powerful machine than the C64.
Not that this isn't a demonstration of absolutely insane programming skill, but it ain't quite what they claim it is either.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96357-3313606Tue, 05 Oct 2010 15:02:05 -0800sotonohitoBy: ZenMasterThis
http://www.metafilter.com/96357/The-Demoscene-is-alive-and-kicking#3313853
Can I run it in a C64 emulator on my Lenovo laptop?comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96357-3313853Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:25:46 -0800ZenMasterThis
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