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Richard Grayson is a (now retired) composer and classical <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/improvelectronic">improviser</a>. To give you just a taste, Wagner's <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61OE1JhhTg8">"Ride of the Valkyries"</a> in the style of a Tango, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PnF2W7LmIE">"Heart and Soul"</a> a la Mahler, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ussdCGBtXGY">"Take the A Train"</a> as a Chopin Funeral March.post:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:31:20 -0800non-kneebiterclassicalimprovimprovisationrichardgraysoncomposerimprovisermahlerchopinwagnertangoBy: griphus
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDxENJgT-Zs">Baroque Star Wars</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3325771Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:37:31 -0800griphusBy: griphus
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Holy shit <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/improvelectronic#p/u/3/upFQcITxX9A">James Bond theme and Pink Panther theme as double fugue</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3325773Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:38:44 -0800griphusBy: bewilderbeast
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8mjikxCBQA">The Muppets theme song as a fugue</a>.
Holy shit, I'm going to spend my whole evening listening to these.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3325779Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:41:12 -0800bewilderbeastBy: hippybear
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Surely these musical improvisations are just a sideline for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Grayson">Dick Grayson</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3325793Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:48:05 -0800hippybearBy: justsomebodythatyouusedtoknow
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Part of what's interesting is that as each piece goes on it stops being a joke. You can hear the crowd stop laughing and start settling in to listen to something beautiful, new and familiar at the same time.
Try<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IshINI7uGpE&feature=related"> Darth Vader's theme from "Star Wars" in the style of Beethoven</a>. Victor Borge would have gotten the cheap laugh and stopped after 20 seconds. Grayson is putting emphasis on the idea of writing a piece in the style of Beethoven, just so happening to use the Imperial March as a theme.
Classical musicians used to do this all the time, taking a snippet of popular music and fancifying it. Compare Salieri's <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYXhOPFe3rc&p=149BA2F60D5968AC&playnext=1&index=48">26 variations on 'La Follia di Spagna.'</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3325798Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:51:21 -0800justsomebodythatyouusedtoknowBy: stbalbach
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<i>Try Darth Vader's theme from "Star Wars" in the style of Beethoven.</i>
..which leads to this <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn_95hdy6Nw&feature=fvw">powerful rendition</a> of the Imperial Marchcomment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3325810Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:56:46 -0800stbalbachBy: Joey Michaels
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This is... wow...comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3325820Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:04:00 -0800Joey MichaelsBy: roll truck roll
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I'm fascinated by the scribblings he does on staff paper before playing.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3325830Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:14:31 -0800roll truck rollBy: IndigoJones
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Not bad, but I grew up on Tom Lehrer's <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i4f8oohdi0">variations on Clementine</a>, which is funnier I think.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3325831Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:14:51 -0800IndigoJonesBy: victors
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Cheesy, corny, gimmicky, showy and brilliantly entertaining.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3325832Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:15:37 -0800victorsBy: justsomebodythatyouusedtoknow
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssseEQ7tDNo&feature=related">A renaissance galliard improvised around the cell phone ringtone of some random guy in the audience</a>.
We loves you forever, non-kneebiter.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3325849Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:22:35 -0800justsomebodythatyouusedtoknowBy: hincandenza
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This is the reason I stopped playing the piano.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3325874Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:38:37 -0800hincandenzaBy: Solon and Thanks
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I liked <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/improvelectronic#p/u/65/LhZp04pL188">"Singin' in the Rain" in the style of Wagner</a> and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/improvelectronic#p/u/5/XO8EBFHnT4o">Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring" in the style of Mozart</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3325876Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:39:40 -0800Solon and ThanksBy: ovvl
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Please identify the artist who performed the rendition of 'Holiday in Cambodia' in the style of Rachmaninoff which I heard on the radio years ago?comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3325880Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:45:08 -0800ovvlBy: ovvl
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Oh come on, that totally does not sound like the melody to <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enbXjMjcsEA">Heart and Soul</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3325886Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:47:56 -0800ovvlBy: Bardolph
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These are <em>amazing</em>. Although the Darth Vader/Beethoven one quotes other bits of Beethoven more than B. himself would probably have done. Still, as pastiches/homages, just lovely.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3325913Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:05:34 -0800BardolphBy: BrotherCaine
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Did no one ask him to do the Batman theme, or did he just say no and roll his eyes?comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3325934Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:19:27 -0800BrotherCaineBy: mexican
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but, but, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H9BUzMhTto">Rhapsody in Blue</a> is already in the style of Debussy!
improvisation used to be a huge part of the western music tradition. in the baroque period all musicians were expected to be able to improvise. cadenzas in classical concertos are meant to be improvised. it's too bad improvisation has been mostly relegated to jazz, because independent of style, it's always special to hear spontaneous music from a competent musician that will never be performed the same way again.
this guy is bad ass. nothing cheesy or corny about his approach.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3325949Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:39:17 -0800mexicanBy: ErWenn
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Why do you people only tell me about people who do these sorts of things after they've stopped doing them?
At least this one's still alive.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3325962Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:49:38 -0800ErWennBy: Jimmy Havok
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHdmjlo9bec">Swan Lake ska version by Madness.</a>
I love this genre-bending stuff.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3325974Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:03:17 -0800Jimmy HavokBy: ocherdraco
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ErWenn, I think he's a retired composer, but an active improviser.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3325981Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:09:23 -0800ocherdracoBy: Rory Marinich
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<i>Classical musicians used to do this all the time, taking a snippet of popular music and fancifying it. Compare Salieri's 26 variations on 'La Follia di Spagna.'</i>
If you love variations, try <a href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10655/Folia%20A.m4a">the completely absurd take on La Folia by the Atrium Musicae de Madrid</a>. It's a staple of audiophile collections, partly because of the superb recording by Jean-Francois Pontefract, but also because Atrium goes batshit insane in their variations, adding synth parts and one section where a chainsaw inexplicably cuts in.
But on top of that it's just a lovely piece of music. I wish more modern classical was more like it.
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<blockquote><i>Try Darth Vader's theme from "Star Wars" in the style of Beethoven yt . Victor Borge would have gotten the cheap laugh and stopped after 20 seconds. Grayson is putting emphasis on the idea of writing a piece in the style of Beethoven, just so happening to use the Imperial March as a theme.</i></blockquote>
Yeah, that was pretty amazing, especially knowing it was just the guy sitting there coming up with this off the top of his head.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3325987Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:16:12 -0800delmoiBy: ErWenn
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ocherdrago: Ah, that's good to know. This guy is awesome.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3325988Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:17:11 -0800ErWennBy: ErWenn
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Also, is it just me, or does he look like James Lipton's older, skinnier brother?comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3325989Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:18:33 -0800ErWennBy: oozy rat in a sanitary zoo
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj_GLMcjCwU&feature=related">"Girl from Ipanema" in the style of Poulenc</a> is amazing.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3325993Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:24:00 -0800oozy rat in a sanitary zooBy: Joey Michaels
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<i>Did no one ask him to do the Batman theme, or did he just say no and roll his eyes?</i>
It is, indeed, awesome that he shares a name with Nightwing.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3325995Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:24:28 -0800Joey MichaelsBy: condour75
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Thats freaking amazing that he's taking requests. I imagine the more complex fugue stuff he write in advance right?
Also, shouldn't playing a Tango version of Wagner automatically initiate a Mossad investigation?comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3325998Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:27:44 -0800condour75By: Joey Michaels
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<i>I imagine the more complex fugue stuff he write in advance right?</i>
I may be confusing my classical music, but I seem to recall that fugues are relatively "easy" to improvise. You basically play a theme and then play a number of increasingly complex variations on that theme. For example, you might play the first theme at regular time, then start the theme again at half time (playing both at once) and then, perhaps, invert the theme (if such a thing is possible) and play all three at the same time.
Hopefully, somebody who actually knows what they're talking about will correct me here, but this is part of what makes fugues awesome.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3326002Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:37:10 -0800Joey MichaelsBy: condour75
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Yeah he nails Poulenc, although I think little of the Jobim remains. He basically keeps the rhythm of the melody and the first few notes. I think I'm more impressed with the planned stuff than the improvised stuff.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3326008Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:41:08 -0800condour75By: condour75
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And if this is all improvised, I'm fucking floored.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3326012Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:43:09 -0800condour75By: CheeseDigestsAll
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A great peice not quite in this vein, but with a lot of hidden quotations is the "Missa Hilarious" by P.D.Q. Bach (aka Peter Peter Schickele). <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n7YbWV5TMI">Sample</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3326014Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:43:59 -0800CheeseDigestsAllBy: ocherdraco
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I love <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBWsJy7zBNU">"I'm Gonna Wash That Man Right Out of My Hair" as interpreted by Beethoven</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3326028Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:03:07 -0800ocherdracoBy: huzzahhuzzah
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If fugues are "easy" to improvise, I don't understand what "easy" means. I always found them extraordinarily hard to play, and they were written down, note for note.
I am totally floored by this. The complexity and nuance of his improvisations is staggering, and he nails the manner of each composer perfectly. Wow.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3326030Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:04:49 -0800huzzahhuzzahBy: dfan
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<em>I may be confusing my classical music, but I seem to recall that fugues are relatively "easy" to improvise.</em>
I think you are confusing your classical music.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3326038Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:16:01 -0800dfanBy: fourcheesemac
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Wow. Easy, my ass! Most impressive.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3326045Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:20:40 -0800fourcheesemacBy: John Cohen
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbLVVhsDnlY">Good Vibrations in the style of Bartok</a> doesn't sound much like the Beach Boys song to me, but it does make me want to listen to <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyM8LzgtQrY">more Bartok.</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3326119Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:37:23 -0800John CohenBy: ocherdraco
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In the description of the Good Vibrations video, he admits he got the chords wrong on that one.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3326134Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:53:58 -0800ocherdracoBy: archagon
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Fugues can be improvised, but it's not easy. I know Bach used to do it, and I'm sure other compsers could as well.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3326136Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:54:18 -0800archagonBy: John Cohen
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<em>In the description of the Good Vibrations video, he admits he got the chords wrong on that one.
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Now I can at least hear what he was trying to do. I was assuming he'd start at the beginning ("Ah, I love the colorful clothes she wears..."), but he's just playing the chorus ("I'm picking up good vibrations...").comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3326170Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:43:18 -0800John CohenBy: languagehat
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Wonderful stuff, and makes me proud to have gone to Occidental College (where he taught from 1969 to 2001). Thanks for the post!comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3326569Thu, 14 Oct 2010 07:46:56 -0800languagehatBy: gimonca
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<i>Please identify the artist who performed the rendition of 'Holiday in Cambodia' in the style of Rachmaninoff which I heard on the radio years ago?</i>
Possibly related: <a href="http://www.richardcheese.com/rchome.html">Richard Cheese</a> did a lounge rendition on (IIRC) his first album.
With sleigh bells!comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3327417Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:15:55 -0800gimoncaBy: ovvl
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Thank you, that Richard Cheese reference led to the piano version I was thinking of by DJ Lebowitz.
Which eventually leads to the story of former Dead Kennedys drummer <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Cadona">6025</a> trying to be "the Captain Beefheart of gospel music."comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.96633-3329696Fri, 15 Oct 2010 21:04:15 -0800ovvl
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