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Comments on MetaFilter post Music from Saharan CellphonesSun, 12 Dec 2010 06:33:11 -0800Sun, 12 Dec 2010 06:33:11 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60Music from Saharan Cellphones
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<a href="http://sahelsounds.com/">Sahel Sounds</a> is the blog of ethnomusicologist Christopher Kirkley, a.k.a. MeFi's own <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/user/16773">iamck</a>. It's about the contemporary music of the Sahel, which is the Southern border of the Sahara, focusing on West Africa. It has long been a region of great musical ferment. The most famous musicians today are Tinariwen (<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/92282/Azawad">previously</a>), but there's a great deal more out there. Kirkley travels around trading music, Western songs in exchange for Saharan, which he mostly receives off cellphone memory cards. Kirkley has made three compilations, <a href="http://sahelsounds.com/?p=168">Sahelsounds, the Promo CD</a> and <a href="http://sahelsounds.com/?p=263">Music from Saharan Cellphones</a> volumes <a href="http://www.mediafire.com/?ogp8o7t8n0fcpso">1</a> and <a href="http://www.multiupload.com/T1J293PTU7">2</a> (the numbers link to downloads). Kirkley has also collected and recorded <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/christokirk#g/u">videos</a>. The Guardian <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2010/nov/01/music-from-saharan-cellphones-mali">interviewed Kirkley</a> on the subject of cellphones' effect on Saharan music, <a href="http://sahelsounds.com/?p=7">which he has written about</a>. Mark Richardson of Pitchfork was prompted by one of Kirkley's collections to write about <a href="http://pitchfork.com/features/resonant-frequency/7876-resonant-frequency-74/">musical scarcity in today's infoglut society</a>. Besides the collections, there are a lot of other songs on the blog, the entire archive is wonderful and worth reading through.post:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.98434Sun, 12 Dec 2010 06:04:39 -0800KattullusmusicAfricaSaharaSahelChristopherKirkleyTinariwenethnomusicologyMarkRichardsonWestAfricaBy: Katjusa Roquette
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This is pretty fantastična! Thanks for posting it because I love Saharawi music and other music from this region of Africa so much!comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.98434-3416009Sun, 12 Dec 2010 06:33:11 -0800Katjusa RoquetteBy: carter
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Thanks for posting this, Kattallus. This is very cool!comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.98434-3416010Sun, 12 Dec 2010 06:34:19 -0800carterBy: fleetmouse
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I wonder if humans are hardwired to perceive scarcity as value, maybe because of the scarcity of calorie-rich food our distant ancestors faced. Or is it a cultural thing? Is a musician everyone else has heard a slut whore musician? /insert lady gaga derail herecomment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.98434-3416026Sun, 12 Dec 2010 07:04:33 -0800fleetmouseBy: ChurchHatesTucker
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This is pretty interesting, but 'songs found on abandoned Nigerian cellphone cards' sounds like the punchline to a joke about hipsters.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.98434-3416054Sun, 12 Dec 2010 08:07:25 -0800ChurchHatesTuckerBy: Nelson
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Great post, Kattullus, thanks. I've read most of the links but I've somehow missed something.. Are cellphones being used to <i>record</i> live music with the microphone? Or are they simply being used to store, transfer, and play back recorded music?
The Pitchfork article notes <i>What is scarce now in music is new ideas; not technique, not style, not sounds, but ideas.</i> I can't disagree, I love novelty in music, and even now I'm downloading all the Sahel stuff I can find in the hopes it's something good and new. But seeking novel music is not a new phenomenon. The Beats fascination with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_Musicians_of_Joujouka">the Master Musicians of Joujouka</a> led to Brian Jones from the Rolling Stones going to Morocco to record them, leading to a US and European hit record of ecstatic music. The introduction of the Gamelan at the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exposition_Universelle_(1889)">1889 Exposition in Paris</a> led to Debussy and every other Western composer writing music in imitation of the gamelan, combining rhythm and melody in a way that was largely novel for European audiences.
Technology has certainly made it <i>easier</i> to find novel music. No one finds it surprising that Diplo worked with a British woman of Sri Lankan descent to remix a bunch of Brazilian beats that were inspired by Miami club music. What I don't understand is how all this novelty is being sifted so that something <i>good</i> comes out.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.98434-3416059Sun, 12 Dec 2010 08:17:00 -0800NelsonBy: filthy light thief
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The magic of "scarce" music from distinctly different communities is that it's not necessarily scarce, but it's something an outsider doesn't know about at all. It could be a local pop song, downloaded from the group's website or traded amongst fans.
I've felt this excitement on finding what I thought was something rare in used music shop. The difference with my finds was that I can usually search for the band name when I get home, and realize this is a common bootleg of a well-known English techno group. But for an hour, it was something special.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.98434-3416073Sun, 12 Dec 2010 08:26:44 -0800filthy light thiefBy: carter
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Been listening to the compilations and they are very good. What a find! I actually have a couple of old tapes form southern Morocco/northern Sahara from about 20 years ago. This music sounds very similar in places, with the exception of the auto-tuned vocals. I need to find someone trustworthy to make good digital copies of these tapes ...comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.98434-3416128Sun, 12 Dec 2010 09:15:15 -0800carterBy: The Mouthchew
http://www.metafilter.com/98434/Music-from-Saharan-Cellphones#3416148
Looks like the Malian hip hop artist Iba One featured on vol. 1 has some tracks on YouTube, for example <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2Ytab6LTNo">"Kayes ba"</a>, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ0CGFd7Sc4">"Yèrèfô"</a>, and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8SGpI47_qA">"Alhamdoulillaye"</a> which sounds/looks like a religious reworking of "Papito" (from the collection).comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.98434-3416148Sun, 12 Dec 2010 09:34:01 -0800The MouthchewBy: fizzix
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<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/98434/Music-from-Saharan-Cellphones#3416059">Nelson</a>: "<i>.....Are cellphones being used to <i>record</i> live music with the microphone? Or are they simply being used to store, transfer, and play back recorded music?..... </i>
I'm pretty sure that the cell phone [besides communicating and other functions] is mostly being used to store, transfer, and play back the music.
<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/98434/Music-from-Saharan-Cellphones#3416059">Nelson</a>:"...What I don't understand is how all this novelty is being sifted so that something <i>good</i> comes out.</i>"
This filtering of determining how something is 'good' occurs through a couple ways and I've thought about this as well.
One would be those who have primary access the music in Africa [whether it's through performing field recordings or acquiring the music through a physical cassette in Africa]. Those people, like sahelsounds, I don't know if he posts everything he comes across, but he and at least one other west african music blogger [benn loxx du tucco ?] don't post the entire contents of a cassette or recording on the website, usually it's just a song or 2. How do they choose which ones to post ? I don't know, I'd assume whichever ones they thought best represented the entire recording or just sounded <em>good</em> [to them ? to their readers ?].
Also, I just thought, there may be another level of filtering even before that. The music that bloggers acquire in Africa or through submitted cassettes: someone has to offer to trade it to them. The music would be ''good'' to those whom had that music on their cell phones [assuming that they have it on there to listen to] in the first place to trade.
Secondly, there's labels like subliminal, dust to digital, and Soundway Records, that transfer vinyls issued in other places, including Africa [often from the 50s - 80s] and compilations re-issued on CDs. On their compilations, they're choosing which songs and albums to reissue onto CD.
Another one would be the music reviewers [pitchfork, and the other music bloggers] who would review the compilations released.comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.98434-3416153Sun, 12 Dec 2010 09:37:19 -0800fizzixBy: flapjax at midnite
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Thanks for this, Kattulus. Great post!comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.98434-3416454Sun, 12 Dec 2010 14:58:18 -0800flapjax at midniteBy: Maias
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I totally love this, thanks for posting!!!comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.98434-3416646Sun, 12 Dec 2010 18:11:34 -0800MaiasBy: iamck
http://www.metafilter.com/98434/Music-from-Saharan-Cellphones#3420838
I feel late to my party. Thanks for posting this!comment:www.metafilter.com,2010:site.98434-3420838Tue, 14 Dec 2010 20:48:47 -0800iamck
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